FDA and e-cigarettes: Your action needed now.

[HarmonyPB]

In my comment I noted that I do not intend to quit using nicotine. NRT is Nicotine REPLACEMENT Therapy. This is an ongoing need, not something you use for a few weeks like a patch. If it's medicine, the usual policy is not to tax it.

I said the same. I quit vaping once and in a few months I was back to smoking. This time I have no interest in stopping vaping. Especially with a DH that smokes, there's just too much temptation.

 

[holley2583]

There has got to be a way to get our voices heard LOUD and CLEAR that this is NOT an option...I can't go back to smoking and if online sales seize then what? I'm really scared. This is ALL about MONEY but this is not a cigarette, it's a replacement, like medicine. I feel that way, don't most of you? Is it time to buy some straight up NIC, PG, VG and hope that our batteries last? I don't know, but I wish I knew a better way to be heard...We need the media on our side. Something, or someone with the power to beat some sense into these people. PV's are saving lives, I don't understand...

 

[skigro]

I left my comment. 1jx-832n-rbv1

 

[dee5]

Thank you to Sharon at ejuicemonkeys for letting me know about this, sorry I don't visit here as much as I used to : (
Here is my comment if you're interested:
I am addicted to nicotine. Like many, I started smoking before it was widely known how harmful cigarettes are. Back then we could smoke anywhere, even our doctors’ offices, and it was completely socially acceptable. Fortunately this is no longer the case and you would have to live in a cave to believe today that smoking isn’t a harmful, even deadly habit. Unfortunately this doesn’t change the fact that many people simply cannot quit smoking.Over the years I have tried to quit 6 times. First I tried cold turkey, I lasted one day. Next was Nicorette gum; I didn’t like the way it tasted or made me feel like I couldn’t swallow. Then I tried the patch which actually worked pretty well and I quit for about 3 months before slowly working my way back up to a pack a day. At this point I was fairly disgusted with myself and gave up on quitting for several years. My next attempt was hypnosis which allowed me to cut down to just one or two cigarettes a day for about a month before I started up yet again. After that I went to my Dr. who prescribed Wellbutrin and then Chantix, neither of which worked for me and made me feel like I'd lost my personality.Then I saw an article that referred to something called an electronic cigarette. This was in February of 2009 and I was smoking up to 1 ½ packs a day. The first day I used the electronic cigarette I only smoked 6 cigarettes and it was painless! The e-cig is the best way to date to reduce and even stop smoking. FYI, I use a fruit flavored juice at 24mg of nicotine-that's what it takes for me not to smoke. Over the past (almost) 4 years that I have been using this product, I have been able to reduce my cigarette smoking from 30 cigarettes a day down to 2. I rarely get sick anymore. I work for a Pulmonologist who lets me to talk to our patients who smoke about using an electronic cigarette as an alternative, my primary care Physician is a believer too. I urge the FDA not to propose deeming regulations on these life saving product!
Tracking# 1jx-832q-wxmh

 

[Sugarnspice]

DONE!
Thanks for making us aware of this RIDICULOUS action. It seems to me our government better get to work on banning tobacco which is PROVEN to be deadly or maybe creating more jobs,balancing the budget etc...The FDA has long been in the pocket of the highest bidder AKA the tobacco and pharma industries. We need to call them OUT!!!

 

[MzBadger]

Add mine to the list... Sad that this had to be done in the first place. I have such a low opinion of the government these days that I'll prepare for the worst and hope for the best though. It's a long comment so I won't paste it over but I hope I got across how ticked I was at this situation without ticking them off to the point that they don't bother to finish reading it. lol

 

[Bucky Goldstein]

All in with my comment:
Electronic cigarettes help millions quit tobacco. I realize the E cigarette industry doesn't have a big billion dollar lobby to buy your votes like the tobacco companies.
Do the right thing for once, vote for the people and not for the corrupt corporations and politicians.

 

[dezyner]

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the FDA is the one dealing with this? You know, the FDA who are an arm of the government? Yeah, that FDA, the one that makes tobacco companies put a warning label on their product that says, "it will kill you". Can you name ANY other product that the FDA oversees that has that label? not one. That's because thier "job" is protection FROM products that re harmful. Period. That's all they are for. So here's the deal. The government, wants their cut, the HUGE tax on tobacco. Let's face it, they make more than the tobacco company does. Most of what you pay for tobacco, goes to tax. Do you really think that the government is just going to "forget" about all that revenue? And just for kicks, assume that the FDA allows cigarettes to be sold and tobacco companies to exist because of the money involved, do you really think they care about anything other than money? This isn't about right and wrong, it's about economics, not health. They could care less if we die from cigarettes, that's what that warning label says, "it will kill you, but give me $5 a pack in taxes, and I'll forget all about it". The government is the one responsible, and they use the "big tobacco" as a smokescreen. Big tobacco couldn't even exist without the government allowing it. do you really think they don't want all that money they are missing out on? it's not about laws, health or "Food and Drug, it's about taxes.

 

[Darth Vapaa]

HELP! The site is not ipad friendly. I wrote mine in Pages and the word count is only 464 but when i copy it to comments it says I'm out of space. So, i tried upload a file and it only lets me choose pictures... Can someone with a PC post this for me?

 

[Darth Vapaa]

HELP! The site is not ipad friendly. I wrote mine in Pages and the word count is only 464 but when i copy it to comments it says I'm out of space. So, i tried upload a file and it only lets me choose pictures... Can someone with a PC post this for me?

Never mind....I shortened the heck out of it so it would fit. Not as eloquent but DONE! 1jx-832t-foy6


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[DC2]

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the FDA is the one dealing with this? You know, the FDA who are an arm of the government? Yeah, that FDA, the one that makes tobacco companies put a warning label on their product that says, "it will kill you". Can you name ANY other product that the FDA oversees that has that label? not one. That's because thier "job" is protection FROM products that re harmful. Period. That's all they are for. So here's the deal. The government, wants their cut, the HUGE tax on tobacco. Let's face it, they make more than the tobacco company does. Most of what you pay for tobacco, goes to tax. Do you really think that the government is just going to "forget" about all that revenue? And just for kicks, assume that the FDA allows cigarettes to be sold and tobacco companies to exist because of the money involved, do you really think they care about anything other than money? This isn't about right and wrong, it's about economics, not health. They could care less if we die from cigarettes, that's what that warning label says, "it will kill you, but give me $5 a pack in taxes, and I'll forget all about it". The government is the one responsible, and they use the "big tobacco" as a smokescreen. Big tobacco couldn't even exist without the government allowing it. do you really think they don't want all that money they are missing out on? it's not about laws, health or "Food and Drug, it's about taxes.

Assuming that were true, what are you saying?
It sounds like you're saying don't bother?

 

[HarmonyPB]

HELP! The site is not ipad friendly. I wrote mine in Pages and the word count is only 464 but when i copy it to comments it says I'm out of space. So, i tried upload a file and it only lets me choose pictures... Can someone with a PC post this for me?

It limits you to 2,000 characters, including spaces.

Glad you got it figured out and posted!

 

[milezteg]

Canadians and other nationalities can fill out this quick questionnaire, not just Americans - takes only a minute. If you care about vaping I'd encourage you to do so right now

Your Comment Tracking Number: 1jx-832x-vcxp

 

[armchairnomad]

Sorry for the double post, as I posted this in another thread as well, but I thought it was important to give people an idea of what you can say. I feel it's important to do it in a well mannered and informed way, and not send off angry, uninformed, and unproductive rants. This is the letter I sent.

Your Comment Tracking Number: 1jx-8332-akil
______________________________________________

I would like to submit my comment on the proposed regulations regarding the use of electronic smoking devices.

I have been a smoker for 7 years. I have been a pack a day smoker for at least 5 of those 7 years. About 5 months ago I starting using vaporized nicotine (I refuse to call them ecigarettes in these comments, as they are NOT cigarettes). Being a well informed consumer, I researched a lot and decided to try and find the best options for me in choosing a liquid based nicotine alternative.

Since starting to use a vaporizer, I have cut my smoking habit down to about 4 or 5 cigarettes a week, mainly while at work, and although haven't been able to quit altogether, have serious intention to. While I enjoy the social aspect, and ritual of smoking, I do not enjoy the smell, taste, cost, and significant dangers to my health and the health of those around me that they pose.

When I hear of measures being taken by the FDA and/or anti-smoking groups to either ban or heavily regulate liquid nicotine and the devices used to deliver it, it disappoints me greatly to know that something as harmful as cigarettes can go on thriving despite the higher taxes being levied on them, and yet heavy regulation on vaporizers and the liquids used in them will more than likely put many small businesses and vendors out of business. This will leave only the biggest and richest corporations left standing to manufacture and distribute the products.

This fact worries me, as I consider the amount of additives and chemicals that are used in cigarettes to make them more addictive, (over 80 of which are carcinogenic) and for god knows what other purposes. This will more than likely be the case with the liquid currently available for vaporizers if this is allowed to happen, and will have a detrimental effect on small business, the economy, and the overall health of the population.

Seeing as I can buy a liquid with 5 ingredients from certain reputable vendors (nicotine, water, vegetable glycerine and/or propylene glycol [used in fog juice, inhalers, etc], and FDA approved flavoring), the idea of inhaling over 4000 chemicals doesn't really appeal to me anymore. I fear for the future of this expanding and extremely beneficial market. Many people would simply go back to smoking regular cigarettes if a ban were enacted, or would be forced to smoke whatever poisons the big tobacco companies decided to put in their own version of liquid nicotine solutions if these small vendors are regulated out of business.

I enjoy smoking. But I do not enjoy the multitude of negative effects it has on my body. I do not WANT to quit my intake of nicotine, just as I'm sure many of you would rather not stop your daily intake of caffeine, which is in the same family of chemical as nicotine. I just want to do it in a healthier way, and things like a patch or gum will not satisfy the social and ritual aspects of smoking that I enjoy so much.

Please consider the comments submitted by the users of this new technology when making your decision, and please consider my comments on the matter as well.

Thank you for your time.

 

[Lord Vaako]

They want to take our guns and now our ecigs.....what's next, my dog?

 

[wefishallday]

Thank you for including your post. I did a word count on it - it's 2567. Can you repost limited your characters (not words) to just under 2000. Perhaps then it won't be discarded. Thanks -- a fellow e-cig user.

 

[dezyner]

Assuming that were true, what are you saying?
It sounds like you're saying don't bother?

Not at all. I'm saying don't bother with the right and wrong argument, the good versus bad. I'm saying don't bother with the FDA doing the "right" thing, their agenda is tax money, not your health. If it were your health, explain the warning labels on cigarettes? One product they KNOW kills you, the other "might" be slightly hazardous and they are concerned with the one that "might" be? you really don't see the problem with that? One WILL kill you in 10 years, the other MIGHT harm you in 50 years. and they are concerned with the one that "might"? If you want to negotiate with them, just realize you are getting ready to be taxed, just like, and as much as, cigarettes. It's like going in to court and arguing, if you don't know the answers to the questions you are about to ask, better not ask the question. They really really don't care about your health, but they care very much for the tax revenue. The government has become more addicted to the tobacco taxes than we are to the nicotine. Money junkies.

 

[bbarron78]

Not at all. I'm saying don't bother with the right and wrong argument, the good versus bad. I'm saying don't bother with the FDA doing the "right" thing, their agenda is tax money, not your health. If it were your health, explain the warning labels on cigarettes? One product they KNOW kills you, the other "might" be slightly hazardous and they are concerned with the one that "might" be? you really don't see the problem with that? One WILL kill you in 10 years, the other MIGHT harm you in 50 years. and they are concerned with the one that "might"? If you want to negotiate with them, just realize you are getting ready to be taxed, just like, and as much as, cigarettes. It's like going in to court and arguing, if you don't know the answers to the questions you are about to ask, better not ask the question. They really really don't care about your health, but they care very much
for the tax revenue. The government has become more addicted to the tobacco taxes than we are to the nicotine. Money junkies.

Who cares why or how they do anything! Let's no be bystanders while they do it, make our voices heard as one community
Informed consumers who have found a safe effective way to kick the habit( a twenty year habit for me) I am smoke free and happy about it I feel this is my answer to be smoke free for life. If you find yourself in a similar position make you voice heard.

 

[fluttershy]

Canadians and other nationalities can fill out this quick questionnaire, not just Americans - takes only a minute. If you care about vaping I'd encourage you to do so right now

Your Comment Tracking Number: 1jx-832x-vcxp

Thanks, I've been wanting to know if Canadians could submit! I'm getting started on this a.s.a.p.

 

[DC2]

Not at all. I'm saying don't bother with the right and wrong argument, the good versus bad. I'm saying don't bother with the FDA doing the "right" thing, their agenda is tax money, not your health. If it were your health, explain the warning labels on cigarettes? One product they KNOW kills you, the other "might" be slightly hazardous and they are concerned with the one that "might" be? you really don't see the problem with that? One WILL kill you in 10 years, the other MIGHT harm you in 50 years. and they are concerned with the one that "might"? If you want to negotiate with them, just realize you are getting ready to be taxed, just like, and as much as, cigarettes. It's like going in to court and arguing, if you don't know the answers to the questions you are about to ask, better not ask the question. They really really don't care about your health, but they care very much for the tax revenue. The government has become more addicted to the tobacco taxes than we are to the nicotine. Money junkies.

I certainly agree with most of that, but I'm not clear on what you are saying we SHOULD do.

They may not care about doing the right thing, and we may not have the money to pay them for what we want...
But with our passion we can show them that we have another kind of power, and we intend to use it.

The last thing they want to see is the media running stories on how millions of ex-smokers went back to smoking...
And they certainly don't want to look like a bunch of heartless mercenaries willing to sacrifice our lives.