FDA concerned dissolvable tobacco appeals to kids

[Kurt]

I second this

Word. The FDA couldn't care less about the health of children. Witness dreadful vaccinations, Nutrasweet poison, and like you said, insane amounts of junk food. IMO, they want kids sick, and the sooner the better for BP profits. They will use any line in the book they can think of to scare Joe Average who doesn't know anything. Anything to keep them smoking and paying tobacco taxes, and hopefully dying a slow expensive death from smoking related illnesses. They don't want health, they want money and control, and these products are a big sudden hit to both those things. Expect more lies and ridiculous statements, and if those don't work, expect the really ugly.

Just my $0.02. Rant off.

 

[Thulium]

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- The Food and Drug Administration is saying in letters to two tobacco companies that flavored, dissolvable tobacco products -- that the agency compares with candy and says contain a lot of nicotine -- could be particularly appealing to kids and young adults.
The FDA's Center for Tobacco Products wrote to R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., maker of Camel cigarettes, and the smaller Star Scientific Inc. on Monday voicing concern over smokeless products that are consumed like breath mints but made from finely milled tobacco.

READ the rest here,
FDA concerned dissolvable tobacco appeals to kids - Yahoo! Finance

So does this mean the FDA is pulling the Commit Lozenge off the shelf?

 

[Wafflestomper]

I remember when the phrase "I'm going to sue you" started becoming an uncomfortably common phrase. When McD's was sued for hot coffee was the straw that broke the camels back.

Seems like people had after that started following that ideology at a geometric rate, and now it is just accepted as status quo.

That fostered a thinking of "My misfortune is at the hands of someone else, and not my own doing". Now a big fat portion of society expects to be taken care of, expects everyone to fit the standard of what "they" say we should fit.

Expression and individuality are met with hostility, and people lash out at anyone that pushes their fragile, perfect, climate-controlled reality.

More and more of us seek refuge in our little internet universe, and seek out others like us. People here have great passion, and ideas, but it breaks my heart that we are forced to sit here and pine for better times, and stew in the rage and injustice we feel going on in the world around us.

I'm not a violent person, but sometimes it worries me that things are so far gone, that there isn't much left we can do.

They own the legal system, they own the money, they own the guns, the media, our food, our drink, our entertainment.

What else do we have?

 

[Cancer]

Every time i think e-cigs or smokeless alternatives are gaining acceptance or clearing legal hurdles, you slap me back to reality with your WELL FOUNDED pessimism and logic. As soon as i read the story on the web i came here for your take. Basically I use nothing but e-cigs, yet always get angry when they go after Tropical Bob's pleasures and vice's. With all these governmental intrusions, i am really starting to hate this country....never thought I would turn into a croggidty old man

 

[ChipCurtis]

Basically I use nothing but e-cigs, yet always get angry when they go after Tropical Bob's pleasures and vice's.

Hell, I even get angry when they go after MY pleasures and vices.
But maybe I'm just a little selfish. I dunno.

You can feel better about all this stuff by remembering that, if we followed Tropical Bob's ontology on things (as sound as his wisdom can be), to its ultimate end, perhaps we wouldn't even have the e-cig today. I just prefer a frame of mind that keeps its feelers open for possibilities outside of our already-over-constrained social framework, i.e. "the way we see things".

The e-cig, as a physical presence in our world, has more power than any lawyer's ability to put a spin on it. One guy invents an e-cig. Now, ten thousand lawyers have to dance. Who is pulling whose strings?

Economic and political realities are never "mere facts" but are partly constituted by how far we've limited our perception of reality in order to conform to some temporary comfort offered up by our politicians.

 

[Mr_Phil]

I second this

Be careful what you wish for. Anything regulated or banned merely reduces your civil liberties by one. How long before we hit one minus one?

 

[beingbekah]

(Disclaimer: I'm speaking generally here, not to any one person.)

I really don't get why we're so concerned what other people put in their bodies. I personally don't care if my neighbor shoots ...... into his eyeballs, so long as he doesn't commit any crimes while under the influence (child neglect/abuse and driving included!) and keeps it behind closed doors. If I don't have to see it, how can it possibly affect me? (Of course, if someone has a .... lab in his basement, that's a different story; those things are TOXIC.)

 

[Mr_Phil]

(Disclaimer: I'm speaking generally here, not to any one person.)

I really don't get why we're so concerned what other people put in their bodies. I personally don't care if my neighbor shoots ...... into his eyeballs, so long as he doesn't commit any crimes while under the influence (child neglect/abuse and driving included!) and keeps it behind closed doors. If I don't have to see it, how can it possibly affect me? (Of course, if someone has a .... lab in his basement, that's a different story; those things are TOXIC.)

ITA. A couple years ago I did a blog post titled "End the war now" that dealt with the drug war. I got hate mail from liberals and conservatives alike.

 

[BigNaturals]

yes more taxes. more and more taxes. i'm praying that they don't do this to e juice. praying.

 

[beingbekah]

ITA. A couple years ago I did a blog post titled "End the war now" that dealt with the drug war. I got hate mail from liberals and conservatives alike.

That doesn't suprise me in the least. Organized political parties and nanny-state legislation are what's destroying this country.

 

[bobtow]

What people have to do is keep electing Arnold Shwartseneggars to the senate and other posts of power. Too many congressmen try to win electons on politicall correct positions. If it sounds benefitial, they espouse it. No matter what the consequences. That is the type of people we are electing now. That is why the countries are becoming socialistic.

 

[River]

And even worse it could possibly keep kids from buying a 24oz energy drink with 1400 calories and the stimulant equivalent of 8 cups of coffee.

protect them FDA only you can do it!!!!

 

[Thulium]

What people have to do is keep electing Arnold Shwartseneggars

Up until a few years ago, would you have ever imagined you would say something like this? I totally agree, mind you, but not without realizing we've been in this handbasket far too long for it to be going anywhere good.

 

[ChipCurtis]

What people have to do is keep electing Arnold Shwartseneggars

Yeah, so many of us thought Kalifornya was going to implode after he got elected (not like it hasn't, but that's not entirely his fault.... a decades-long legacy there of out-of-control spending with no taxes to pay for it).

But this only shows just how reasonable and intelligent he is by comparison to just about any other politician there.

 

[FadedLine]

I just started to grow my own tobacco. That's my F U to the FDA. I too enjoy a pipe or a cigar once in a while, and will not give them anymore of my money.

 

[Mac]

So does this mean the FDA is pulling the Commit Lozenge off the shelf?

No because that isn't like candy it is candy and it's candy made by their bedfellows the pharm industry. Pharma is golden because they pay the FDA's bills.

 

[Drummel]

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- The Food and Drug Administration is saying in letters to two tobacco companies that flavored, dissolvable tobacco products -- that the agency compares with candy and says contain a lot of nicotine -- could be particularly appealing to kids and young adults.
The FDA's Center for Tobacco Products wrote to R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., maker of Camel cigarettes, and the smaller Star Scientific Inc. on Monday voicing concern over smokeless products that are consumed like breath mints but made from finely milled tobacco.

READ the rest here,
FDA concerned dissolvable tobacco appeals to kids - Yahoo! Finance



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Ok I'm still a bit new, but I'm catching up to everything. That one just pisses me right the hell off.

Appeals to kids? Stupid so and so's, I was smoking cigarettes at age 11 and there was no flavoring other than the old grit your teeth and bare it kind. And besides the sites all state 18+. The FDA does that on tobacco too, but that doesn't stop kids from starting anyhow... It's unbelievable how damn thick they are...