FDA Forcing Me To Smoke Again

[ckquatt]

Where's the nic gonna come from?

Yes, for me personally, the answer is: My freezer. But I have reason to believe that less than 10% of vapers have stashed away a substantial quantity. In fact, I suspect it might be closer to 1% than 10%...

My freezer for me as well. In total I have a few gallons on nic base in there, much to my wife's displeasure!

I'm pretty sure though there will be a SUBSTANTIAL black market if they tax eliquid into oblivion our outright ban it. (and before anyone says it, the premarket applications would effectively shut down all eliquid suppliers. Basically a "ban".)


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[Ablonz]

Where's the nic gonna come from?

Yes, for me personally, the answer is: My freezer. But I have reason to believe that less than 10% of vapers have stashed away a substantial quantity. In fact, I suspect it might be closer to 1% than 10%...

OM Gosh!!!! I am FINALLY a 1%er. Yeah ditto on the newer people getting the short end of the stick. When are people going to learn that Government is not here for your well being and health anymore?!??!?!?! One can only lead their horses to water......

 

[billgharley]

<snip>thank goodness for ECF and so many helpful folks here.

Andria

Agree wholeheartedly. Thank you again.

 

[billgharley]

Thank you Andria . This has helped me a lot too. Also I want to thank you for your recipe Strawberries n Cream. I have only just started Diy and I tried yours after having unsuccessful attempts at Strawberries and cream. Yours was spot on and I can't stop vaping it . Many thanks all the way from Ireland. I have cut myself down from two packs a day to only 2 cigs now. And now that I have found a great recipe that I love I'm ready to chuck them away. Thank you also to Bill's Magic Vapour for His Cinnamon Danish. Both these recipes have helped me to stick to vaping, which is very important to me as I am also recovering from Breast Cancer. Thank you again !

Congrats @Aosr on the move to vaping and most of all, your recovery from Breast cancer. Glad you're with us!

 

[Clied Died]

Where's the nic gonna come from?

Yes, for me personally, the answer is: My freezer. But I have reason to believe that less than 10% of vapers have stashed away a substantial quantity. In fact, I suspect it might be closer to 1% than 10%...

i feel its safe to assume as long as rj reynolds and phillip morris are in business, they will figure a way to provide. i could be wrong, but i highly doubt the FDA's proposal will stick regardless. if the worse does occur, customs will have overtime hours haha.

 

[AndriaD]

Thank you Andria . This has helped me a lot too. Also I want to thank you for your recipe Strawberries n Cream. I have only just started Diy and I tried yours after having unsuccessful attempts at Strawberries and cream. Yours was spot on and I can't stop vaping it . Many thanks all the way from Ireland. I have cut myself down from two packs a day to only 2 cigs now. And now that I have found a great recipe that I love I'm ready to chuck them away. Thank you also to Bill's Magic Vapour for His Cinnamon Danish. Both these recipes have helped me to stick to vaping, which is very important to me as I am also recovering from Breast Cancer. Thank you again !

That strawberry & cream was my own first real success with "real" DIY -- and I can't stop vaping it either! It's been my ADV for about 11 months now.... I've cut down all the flavoring except the sweetener about 5%, to try and avoid some of the gunking, and it's still a great vape. I wish I could be that successful with every recipe I try!

Really glad that others find it helpful; it was a true "EUREKA!" for me.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

Exactly! That is why I suggest getting fairly comfortable with wicking and coils on an RDA or RTA. Then later when they branch into DIY juices that is the only thing on their plate. A laser beats an incandescent light bulb every trip of the train.

That was how I did it; got a Kayfun and learned to build coils and wick them (the wicking part was harder than wrapping some wire around a drillbit!)... then later when I found I needed the WTA, that gave me excellent motivation to start DIY ejuice. Plus I weas tired of the extortionate prices for ejuice that never turned out to taste very good, once it arrived. Plus my need of very high PG.

Andria

 

[Two_Bears]

That was how I did it; got a Kayfun and learned to build coils and wick them (the wicking part was harder than wrapping some wire around a drillbit!)... then later when I found I needed the WTA, that gave me excellent motivation to start DIY ejuice. Plus I weas tired of the extortionate prices for ejuice that never turned out to taste very good, once it arrived. Plus my need of very high PG.

Andria

Wicking can be critical especially in the GMini with the airflow directly under the coils.

Tight but still able to slide within the coil(s).

 

[AndriaD]

Wicking can be critical especially in the GMini with the airflow directly under the coils.

Tight but still able to slide within the coil(s).

I moved entirely to rebuildables over a year ago, but that airflow beneath the coil is really the only thing I like; kayfuns, magma, and now my Achilles RDAs all have that, and all provide stupendous flavor too. For wicking, I could wish I wasn't such a dreadful tightwad that it took me so long (nearly a year!) to experience japanese organic cotton pads -- a friend here PIFed me some so I could try it and see if i liked them or not, and I really do like the Shiseido pads, so I'll be buying some. The taste is pretty much identical to organic cotton balls, but the ease-of-use and speed of re-wicking and then the very short break-in period make it a much better choice, for me.

Andria

 

[Woofer]

Where's the nic gonna come from?

Yes, for me personally, the answer is: My freezer. But I have reason to believe that less than 10% of vapers have stashed away a substantial quantity. In fact, I suspect it might be closer to 1% than 10%...

Your freeze, kewl that is my answer too!
Next order and I will have enough to last until I am 84 at current levels.
I thought if I lived that long I may smoke the rest of the way to the end.

 

[Jugband]

It's a tragedy that all of us that pay Attention to legislation now have a freezer full of nicotine. I'm ashamed to say I was a Sheeppole, I actually believed in the government, that is until they came for me. Now I watch in disbelief and stock my freezer. I believe A Billion Lives says it best "A government failure" I'll never be naive again

 

[daviedog]

If the FDA succeeds in restricting Vaping, it'll sweep the nation.
'They' should have kept their traps shut..

 

[Clied Died]

the gov't would have to work harder if we started living longer and not shoveling tobacco tax at them.

what a scary thought

 

[somdcomputerguy]

I WILL BE FORCED TO START SMOKING AGAIN

The FDA and most other ABC gov't. agencies, their employees, and most other individuals can NOT force you to do anything. At all. Unless you intended to do it anyway.

 

[Ablonz]

The FDA and most other ABC gov't. agencies, their employees, and most other individuals can NOT force you to do anything. At all. Unless you intended to do it anyway.

I think but could be wrong as they may emphasize that as they would still be addicted to smoking. I know if this came about when I was doing both vaping and smoking and it was harder to continue to vape, I would have went back to smoking because I was still addicted. It is not the case of that now for me though. For newer people, that may be the case.

 

[billgharley]

That strawberry & cream was my own first real success with "real" DIY -- and I can't stop vaping it either! It's been my ADV for about 11 months now.... I've cut down all the flavoring except the sweetener about 5%, to try and avoid some of the gunking, and it's still a great vape. I wish I could be that successful with every recipe I try!

Really glad that others find it helpful; it was a true "EUREKA!" for me.

Andria

Andria, can you share your strawberry & cream DIY recipe with me please?

 

[nyiddle]

I think but could be wrong as they may emphasize that as they would still be addicted to smoking. I know if this came about when I was doing both vaping and smoking and it was harder to continue to vape, I would have went back to smoking because I was still addicted. It is not the case of that now for me though. For newer people, that may be the case.

I think he was more making the point that, in the end, it's your choice to smoke (or vape), and perhaps OP (or anyone, really) could look at impending regulation as good reason to quit nicotine of all types, whether vaporized or combustible.

Granted, I've been vaping for ~2 years and I still have nicotine in my e-liquid, but I have often considered quitting vaping outright. I'm over-simplifying the heck out of it, but whatever. Point still stands.

Anyway, carry on..

 

[AndriaD]

Andria, can you share your strawberry & cream DIY recipe with me please?

Inawera Shisha Strawberry 16%
TFA DX Bavarian Cream 6%
TFA Vanilla Swirl 4.5%
CAP Sweet Cream 2%
TFA Sweetener 2% - 3%

That's the original -- as I mentioned, I've cut down all the flavors except the sweetener by 5%, and it's still awesome; still a gunker too, but not quite as badly. I actually use 3.1% sweetener, but most folks would probably be happier around 2% sweetener.

Andria

 

[choochoogranny]

Wouldln't it be ironic that the FDA's deeming regs effectly bans vaping killing that market, and then 10 yrs. down the line, what do you know, nicotine is found to help and/or prevent dementia/Alsheimers. Previous studies have already shown that those who've smoked have less dementia than those who haven't.......Believe Glantz would have to hide under a "witness protection" plan.

 

[billgharley]

Inawera Shisha Strawberry 16%
TFA DX Bavarian Cream 6%
TFA Vanilla Swirl 4.5%
CAP Sweet Cream 2%
TFA Sweetener 2% - 3%

That's the original -- as I mentioned, I've cut down all the flavors except the sweetener by 5%, and it's still awesome; still a gunker too, but not quite as badly. I actually use 3.1% sweetener, but most folks would probably be happier around 2% sweetener.

Andria

Thank you. Are these high quality and tested for DI/AP flavors? Just wondering...