Feature Request - Variable Voltage

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Just want to point out that this would deviate from the purely "Mechanical" views of the GG line of products. But, if it were made inexpensive and Canned as a drop in optional device then the consumers would still be buying a purely Mechanical device and choose to add an electronic option. I see no way to make a True adjustable voltage device without the use of electronics. Using resistive wafers would not give true variable voltage. Also need to take into consideration that with stackable devices, the more you stack, the larger the mass and the higher the heat to be dissipated. This could cause the device to become quite warm with continuous use and would also not have any thermal overload protection. Another point with stackable wafers is the more you stack, the longer the GG becomes.

agreed...The whole point of this has always been as an optional addon...and that has been stressed many times And yes i never loved the stackable resistor option for the reasons you mentioned.
 

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Actually, after looking in detail at the bottom cap, using the LM317 will work, but would require a new bottom cap that is a bit longer in order to hold the components and also provide proper airflow in the event the battery vented. The max Diameter of the device must be below 11mm to provide airflow to and through the plastic baffle.

If we have any Electronics folks in here, please start working out a list of components needed to use the LM317 with a micro pot to provide the adjustment and I will see what I can come up with when I get home. Basically, someone draw up the schematic and I will try to make it fit it the device mechanically

Now it is time to head off to work, be back in about 12 hours
 
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Actually, after looking in detail at the bottom cap, using the LM317 will work, but would require a new bottom cap that is a bit longer in order to hold the components and also provide proper airflow in the event the battery vented. The max Diameter of the device must be below 11mm to provide airflow to and through the plastic baffle.

Now it is time to head off to work, be back in about 12 hours

With the extra protection provided by the circuit.. the probability of venting would hopefully be dramatically reduced. But yeah airflow would be important both to avoid venting and to allow the heat from the voltage reduction to dissipate. Oh and thanks for taking a good look at LM317..i've been trying to get someone to look at it since post 16 of this thread
 
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With the extra protection provided by the circuit.. the probability of venting would hopefully be dramatically reduced. But yeah airflow would be important both to avoid venting and to allow the heat from the voltage reduction to dissipate. Oh and thanks for taking a good look at LM317..i've been trying to get someone to look at it since post 16 of this thread

Venting holes can be put somewhere else so this is not a problem. But I think that those regulators are made to adjust voltage to a specific level between 1-37 volts or what ever, and thats it. It has no mechanism to adjust voltage from outside. Also its made for lower amperes than we need. We need at least 3 amperes because we use the LR atties too.
 

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Venting holes can be put somewhere else so this is not a problem. But I think that those regulators are made to adjust voltage to a specific level between 1-37 volts or what ever, and thats it. It has no mechanism to adjust voltage from outside. Also its made for lower amperes than we need. We need at least 3 amperes because we use the LR atties too.


I'm pretty sure that you can hook up a potentiometer to the 3rd pin of that circuit to continuously adjust voltage...Also..once you have variable voltage I don't think there is a need for low res atty's anymore :unsure:
 

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I'm pretty sure that you can hook up a potentiometer to the 3rd pin of that circuit to continuously adjust voltage...Also..once you have variable voltage I don't think there is a need for low res atty's anymore :unsure:

If we have a potensiometer then no need for the LM317T Geo
 

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If we have a potensiometer then no need for the LM317T Geo


I think that they work in conjunction with each other. In this configuration, the potentiometer is not used to adjust voltage directly, but instead it is used to adjust the resistance on the voltage control pin of the circuit which in turn adjusts the voltage...i think
 
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Ok this might be a better option to go over 3 amps....the lm350

LM350 - 3-Amp Adjustable Regulator

and more info here: http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM150.pdf

And this LM338 goes up to 5 amps:

LM338 - 5 Amp Adjustable Regulator

You connect the post of the Potentiometer to the control ring so they rotate together. I suppose you can also trim the length of that post.

and here's a mini tutorial:

LM317 Voltage Regulator

Ive been lurking in the GG site for awhile and find that this will be my next mod to purchase once there restocked..

Honestly I would find out whats in the Little Sister Mod It can handle 3.0 volts up to 6 plus volts... I thought about buying it but Im a 18650 man myself... The little sister is very small and getting great reviews... I say its time for a investigative surgery. Im sure the tiny guts of the LS would adapt nicely to the GG as it is so small.. JMO
 

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Ive been lurking in the GG site for awhile and find that this will be my next mod to purchase once there restocked..

Honestly I would find out whats in the Little Sister Mod It can handle 3.0 volts up to 6 plus volts... I thought about buying it but Im a 18650 man myself... The little sister is very small and getting great reviews... I say its time for a investigative surgery. Im sure the tiny guts of the LS would adapt nicely to the GG as it is so small.. JMO


Tnks Mad...yeah i have a little sister and think it's great. I have actually taken the tube of my gg and measured it against the LS..the circuit definitely fits within the diameter of the GG...im also pretty sure, based on looks alone, that he is using a similar circuit to the one i am suggesting.
 

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Geo, your help is very apreciated. I just dont have time to think of what you suggest because I am focusing to my new invention. I dont disapointed you of course because I will try what you suggest for sure! Dont feel hard about me and please continue thinking of new things, I really like that buddy and I am with you on this:)
 

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Geo, your help is very apreciated. I just dont have time to think of what you suggest because I am focusing to my new invention. I dont disapointed you of course because I will try what you suggest for sure! Dont feel hard about me and please continue thinking of new things, I really like that buddy and I am with you on this:)

Thanks Imeo...i know you're busy....But i think with Zoranth's help we can help move this along a little bit....maybe have something for you to try. All we need is someone who has a teeny bit of experience in this.
 

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I have said this before, It is a GREAT idea, and I cant hate on it... but, again, it isnt something I am totally into, I rarely switch voltages or juices.

But, I think it is a good idea, It just isnt something I would use all the time... and it aint a deal breaker for me.

-Tim


I'm jealous that you have found your perfect juice at the perfect voltage :toast: That's awesome....what is it? maybe it will be mine too!
 

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Thanks Imeo...i know you're busy....But i think with Zoranth's help we can help move this along a little bit....maybe have something for you to try. All we need is someone who has a teeny bit of experience in this.

I am here to listen what you will find pal. I am always here:)
 

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What Voltages have you tried Geoff?

3.7 reg and low res atty...6 reg/and high voltage atty. Variable voltage with little sister (which is my favorite and why i want it on my GG!!) Truth is it really depends on the juice and the atty I'm currently using...somewhere between 4.5 and 5.5 is my favorite depending on the juice.
 
Honestly, get one then :)

ie I answered a question on a UK forum recently, the lady was surprised I get a week out of cartos and she thought a day was good. It's because in the AVS the carto stays very wet and the vape is amazing. Once it goes (takes maybe 10-20 min to get going/wet) the vape is amazing and no primary inhales are needed, nor does the CT get wet.

I'm only a couple of weeks into this. 1 carto died about 4 days in, another dropped off after 7 days so I swapped it out. A clean may allow that carto to keep going, not sure. I have 2 AVS's so I put a new carto in the spare AVS, fill and let soak overnight to make use quicker.
 
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