Well, I respectfully disagree and feel that it's not your job to say so. There's enough negativity towards vapers as a community without inflicting it on one another.
Fired for smoking e cig at work?!
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I think you missed the part where he didn't ask if he should sneak in a closet and vape. Only that he did and he's worried about it and wonders if he got fired.
Perhaps the Best advise the OP can get from everything that has happened is to get a Clearer Understanding of what his Employer’s Policy is regarding e-Cigarette use while On the Job.
Reality Check: Many Employer’s are not so Sympathetic to vaping or Smoking when not done on a Designated Break in a Designated Area like some of the members here on the ECF are.
Reality Check: Many Employer’s are not so Sympathetic to vaping or Smoking when not done on a Designated Break in a Designated Area like some of the members here on the ECF are.
Ok children, enough bickering. The op made a mistake and is worried about it, who hasn't made bad choices in the past? I know I have made plenty myself. He cane to us because he wanted our thoughts and maybe a little support, is that to much to ask? I think not, that is why we are here, to support each other. Personally I think he is probably ok, if the "closet" he was in was for data storage there would be large amounts of magnetic and electrical energy around which is most likely what screwed up his pass card. I don't believe any one would have canceled his security pass with him still in the building, especially unsupervised!
I believe the OP knew he might have been busted. Not sure he asked for 'support' or anything like that. Mainly helping people be aware to be careful when and how you vape. A good message in my opinion.
It's all part of the way public forums work.
The great part of it is that people browsing these threads can get various points of view about the issue. Also, I think after seeing this thread, more people will 'think twice' before whipping out a PV and blowing out a cloud of fog.
Somewhere down the line...many people feel like more and more civil rights are being trumped in the name of 'security' and "protecting the health of the public". Those boundaries do need to be tested constantly....otherwise we may find cameras in our own homes someday...monitoring the brand of carrots we eat! OK...a bit out there...but without checks and balances and public discussions it could possibly happen. It has before in some parts of the world (maybe not with cameras, but with he said she said spying...as bad or worse)!
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Why yes, yes it is too much to ask. He needs a good talking to and lecture. Because apparently looking up and seeing the big 'ol camera there and spending the whole weekend worring that he was fired wasn't enough remind him to never try that little trick again, he needs a little shaming. It's for the good of the community and all the future vapers after all.
It's things like this- hiding in a closet at WORK in a hospital, vaping at your desk when you're not supposed to- things like this make ecigs look bad. Justify it all you want, I'll be ...... if ecigs get a bad rap because you couldn't wait an hour for your break and had to be a fiend.
Just sayin.
Just sayin.
And like you said earlier- NO, not everyone has "snuck a vape or cig break". Not everyone does that. I don't vape when I'm not supposed to. I respect my boss and my authority figures when they ask me to vape or smoke outside. To go hide in a closet or break the rules to get my "fix" is fiendish and childish.
Be an adult and have a little self control. I'm sure you'll flame on though...
I'm not going to flame you. I agree with a lot of what you said.
I just think in this instance, it's over and done with. The poor guy knows he shouldn't have. He just spent a miserable weekend worrying about if he was fired. I feel bad for him. He probably beat himself up enough about it.
I just think in this instance, it's over and done with. The poor guy knows he shouldn't have. He just spent a miserable weekend worrying about if he was fired. I feel bad for him. He probably beat himself up enough about it.
OH but it already is! Because we have people that act like vaping is crack and can't pull the darn thing out of their lips for two seconds while they are AT WORK
OH I totally understand. He had a reason to worry!
I used to be that paranoid when I was a "peace pipe" smoking teen. I had a reason to worry.
We have people on here that are straight up ADDICTED to vaping. Some people can't STOP. It's like a pacifier!
Now people can't stop while they're at work? I've been vaping over a year and I have no problem quitting while I'm at work. I use 32 mg!
I'm just upset because people do things like this and THAT'S the reason why bans are being made. it also makes us look like crack heads- as if half the world doesn't think we are anyway!
I used to be that paranoid when I was a "peace pipe" smoking teen. I had a reason to worry.
We have people on here that are straight up ADDICTED to vaping. Some people can't STOP. It's like a pacifier!
Now people can't stop while they're at work? I've been vaping over a year and I have no problem quitting while I'm at work. I use 32 mg!
I'm just upset because people do things like this and THAT'S the reason why bans are being made. it also makes us look like crack heads- as if half the world doesn't think we are anyway!
Don't get me wrong...
I feel bad for the guy also. These are very tough time and losing your job is a very serious concern.
But losing your job because the company went out of business is one thing. Loosing your job because you sneak around taking hits off a PV is another.
Something to consider. Sometimes when people post points of views in threads it is solely for the OP. If one person besides the OP reads this thread and doesn't get fired for vaping on the job, wouldn't that be a good thing?
Right On bassthumper.
I'm glad you had the guts to say that. I've mentioned things like this in other threads and have been Flamed Severely.
So what? I'm addicted to coffee and vaping. Why is that anyone's business?
Wrong. That's not the reason why companies are banning vaping - they are banning it because they CAN.
Who cares if uninformed people think you're a crackhead? They're obviously not very bright, so their opinion is largely irrelevant.
I'm not trying to keep this thread going or argue with you. I like you! I'm not an 'out there' vapor myself. Yes, I vaped in a bathroom stall at the hospital. I was a mess but I'd probably do it again. I'm not gonna lie, I had a few vapes of my peach juice.
I think his first post did exactly that. His post was a wake-up call not to if there ever was one.
Do I think the responses and nasty remarks helped educate new people not to vape where they shouldn't? Do you?
I think his first post did exactly that. His post was a wake-up call not to if there ever was one.
Do I think the responses and nasty remarks helped educate new people not to vape where they shouldn't? Do you?
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