First e-cig experience, with unpleasant side-effects...

[StinkyMcghee]

So I finally received all my e-cig paraphernalia yesterday:
- a 510 disposable complete with 3 cartridges of 24mg "Marl" PG,
- the full Joye 510 starter kit w/manual batts, and
- a variety of 20mg VG juices from Vermont Vapor.

I was a bit confused at first - I immediately started inhaling off the 510 disposable and just getting a funky fog machine flavor, only to find that the pre-attached cartridge was empty - not even any batting. Ick, so that's what primer tastes like...

After sticking the real 24mg Marl cartridge into the disposable, things tasted a lot better, but I still think I don't like that underlying PG flavor...well, I'm pretty sure it's PG there since it tastes just like the fog machine in our lab smells, a certain cloying artificial sweetness. Things tasted better with the Vermont Vapor VG liquid on the manual 510 (thumbs up for blueberry!).

Overall I think I like vaping, but here's the weird part, though: after a few hours of mixing and matching liquids and ecigs, I started to get kind of a brain fog, followed soon after by some serious chills/shivering. It felt quite a bit like the flu, and the only thing that stopped it was getting into bed under the electric blanket, where I ended up just falling asleep. No idea if I had a fever, but it certainly felt like it...

So, has anyone ever heard of these symptoms before? Is this a possible PG allergic reaction? I did notice the PG seemed to cause some immediate chest tightness and cough. Could it be a nicotine overdose? It doesn't seem like I was vaping *that* much, and my heart wasn't racing or anything. I also doubt it was nicotine withdrawal, since I'd had an analog 4 hours earlier (just before the e-cigs arrived). Any ideas what else it could be? Sucking down primer come back to haunt me a few hours later?

It's morning, and no real problems now...though in an effort to narrow the variables here, I'm limiting myself to just the VG liquid. It's now been 17 hours since my last analog, and while I do still want one (especially after just waking up and finding vaping doesn't quite fulfill that morning craving), it's not nearly as bad as if I had just gone cold turkey.

 

[enoonmai]

Sounds alot like a nic OD to me. I get the sweats and feel sea-sick when I fiend vape too high mg and 24mg is pretty high to my system

 

[curiousJan]

Sounds alot like a nic OD to me. I get the sweats and feel sea-sick when I fiend vape too high mg and 24mg is pretty high to my system

Sounds like it to me too ... that's how I feel when I need to put the darn thing down for a little while!

 

[enoonmai]

Try cutting your mg by half and see if that helps.I like to vape 11mg on a regular basis however in the morning when my cravings for an analog are the worst, I fill my cart with 11mg and top it off with 2-3 drops of the 24mg. Kills the craving and keeps the demons away.

 

[smokingisbad]

Honestly, on the forum there are threads all about the 510 I would search those as it should solve most of your problems. I understand you are just asking questions but it may be easier for you to find what you need in those threads. GL and Welcome!!!ps. great choice with the 510

 

[Milano]

Here's a question I thought relevant to this thread.

How much mg of nic are you actually getting in each hit?

If 1 Marlboro Red is roughly 1.1mg of Nicotine (using the bunk testing method the FDA does).. then a 24mg dose in one cartridge.. which they say 1 cart = about 10 cigs. 2.4mg a hit? or 2.4mg per 3 or 4 5-second hits?

see where I'm going? I think I just confused myself. Can someone finish explaining or asking what I'm getting at?

lol


-Pete

 

[enoonmai]

There is a huge thread on this somewhere. It takes a good day to read it all. After reading it all, my conclusion is everyone has a different system and absorbs nic in a different way.If you are a long time nic junkie you should feel the effects and be able to sort the amount you are getting by falling between craving more and going to sleep under your electric blanket. I guess I like to be somewhere in the middle. Sweet spot is the term often used here.

 

[curiousJan]

Here's a question I thought relevant to this thread.

How much mg of nic are you actually getting in each hit?

If 1 Marlboro Red is roughly 1.1mg of Nicotine (using the bunk testing method the FDA does).. then a 24mg dose in one cartridge.. which they say 1 cart = about 10 cigs. 2.4mg a hit? or 2.4mg per 3 or 4 5-second hits?

see where I'm going? I think I just confused myself. Can someone finish explaining or asking what I'm getting at?

lol


-Pete

I think you're confused about the mg/mL strength ... in 24mg juice there is 24mg of nicotine in a mL of juice. My 510 cartridge doesn't hold a full mL of juice. Also, I don't believe we have much good scientific evidence of how much nicotine we're absorbing from the vapor produced by our pvs. You might want to search for the "Nictoine, are we getting it?" thread, as it might answer your questions.

Jan

 

[Sign-Man]

StinkyMcghee, I get headachey and nauseous if I vape to much nic. use a lower nic level and see how you feel. Getting it right can take some time.

Pete - smoke particles are much smaller than vapor droplets, therefore the smoke will transfer more nic into your bloodstream than vaping.

 

[Milano]

I think you're confused about the mg/mL strength ... in 24mg juice there is 24mg of nicotine in a mL of juice. My 510 cartridge doesn't hold a full mL of juice. Also, I don't believe we have much good scientific evidence of how much nicotine we're absorbing from the vapor produced by our pvs. You might want to search for the "Nictoine, are we getting it?" thread, as it might answer your questions.

Jan

Hey Jan, thanks. I just thought in reading about someone getting Nic OD.. it was pretty odd. 24mg/per each ml isn't bad. I wasn't even thinking in terms of ml before, just in terms of knowing there will be about 24mg in your cartridge. Hope I'm not hi-jacking the thread here.. but I was trying to think to myself "Well, I've smoked 10 filterless cigarettes in a row before and never had such an experience.. and that'd be like 20mg right there..."

//end of my ranting. Back to the OP.




::edit:: thanks Sign man

-- hey where did you get that signature? I think I'd like a similar one for when my e-cigs arrive.

 

[PaganPaul]

Below is a list of symptoms that are associated with a nicotine overdose:

• Nausea
• Vomiting
• ........
• Stomach pains
• Cold sweats
• Headache
• Dizziness
• Hearing or vision problems
• Confusion
• Chest pain
• Uneven or racing heartbeat
• Seizures