First three days without analogs

[JSOC]

Day 1: Easy. Vaped 3 ml of 13mg juice. No cravings.
Day 2: Slightly less easy. Vaped 5 ml of 18mg juice. Slight cravings.
Day 3: Not so easy. Vaped about 7 ml of 18mg so far, will probably add another 2-3ml. Cravings.

I'm probably taking in more nicotine than I would with analogs, so where are the cravings coming from? If I do get a craving I fire up the Ego One and it goes away but it's weird that I still have them. Will they go away in the near future? Seems like the other junk in analogs (besides the nic) is also addictive.

I have some 24mg juice on the way so maybe that will help.

Regardless of the cravings it feels GREAT to be off those #$%^ cancer sticks!

 

[NoFumus]

Congratulations JSOC! That's great. Not that I'm suggesting it, but I dual used for the first week or so, so I didn't have the same experience, but yeah it does get easier. It's been about 15 months for me now, and it's hard to imagine smoking now. Although, sometimes when I walk by a group of smokers I'm both repelled by the smell and get a slight twinge of a craving, like "That smells awful. I want one."

Keep up the good work. You'll find lots of support here, so you've come to the right place.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

I dual used for about a week, and still get cravings two months in. I'll bum an analog here and there and the general reaction is now, "Ew, that's disgusting, why did my brain think I wanted that?!?!"

It's not an easy journey, even with vaping, so congrats on your first few days! The thing that helps me is to remember that you have to forgive yourself when you slip up. It might happen, but it's not the end of the world, just write it off as a mistake and keep vaping!

 

[roxynoodle]

Yes, there are 8 other chemicals besides nicotine in tobacco smoke that create "the addiction cocktail", so its not just the nic we crave. The cravings may last a long time, but I found vaping was the only thing that got me away from smoking. I'm 14 months in, and the urge to have a cig still hits me sometimes.

 

[Traijan]

Yes they will go away eventually, at least they do for most people as you can see on these forums. For some it's more difficult than for others.

My seriously strong cravings went away in about a week and I was vaping 18mg then I reduced it after the initial bad cravings went away. I think I had it easier than most as I was a work at home person back then so I was able to just vape all day as I pleased.

I still get the desire to spark up when I somebody around me first lights up their cigarette. I hate the smell of smoke now, but I still love the smell of when the fire first touches the end of the cigarette but I just make sure that if I'm going to be around my smoking friends that I've got my PV with me and take some big hits and the desire to spark up immediately goes away.

I know if I went back to smoking cigarettes my body would hate the taste. It would be like that first cigarette I smoked over 35 years ago where my mind said "why do my parents smoke this, it's terrible" And again when I became of legal age to smoke only I kept smoking and eventually the nasty taste turned into something pleasurable, but I'm sure after a year and a half of not smoking, that first puff would be like licking the ash left over from a forest fire. We just had a forest fire nearby and every morning that I pass by it I forget and I think, Wow this area of the highway just stinks like stale cigarettes, of course it's the ash after the rain.

When the cravings get really bad just puff away on your PV until they subside. For me it sometimes took a really strong 10 to 15 puffs in a row but then the cravings were completely knocked out.

The hardest part to me was to do tasks that I did every day repeatedly while smoking (like working on the computer, I'd chain smoke), and I still had light cravings for about 6 months every time I'd set down to my computer to do some work, but again, the vaping put them to the side, it was just that initial sitting at the computer when I'd always spark up a cigarette immediately upon sitting down to my computer. Sometimes it's best to avoid those tasks that you associate with smoking for a while if possible as it's not just the stuff that's in the cigarettes that makes you want one, it's your own brain just telling you that you want it because you always did it when doing a specific task. Basically a habit.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Congrats JSOC, you are on your way! Without vaping, just imagine how much more difficult (near impossible) it would be to not smoke for those three days without having vaping. You will still get cravings but they won't be anywhere near as intense as if you weren't vaping plus they will be fewer in number. Nicotine levels depend entirely upon your genetic makeup and how much you used to smoke and the strength of the ciggs you used to smoke. Personally, I used more nicotine than you are using when I first started. I still use a fairly high dosage. I am thinking that when your 24mg juice arrives that it will greatly help. Until the stuff arrives, hit that juice you are currently using as often as you need to in order to keep the cravings to a minimum. Anything to keep you off the death sticks.

 

[Darth Omerta]

I went for about a week doing both analogs and vaping. Im now smoke free for over a year! I still remember the day I woke up and went to light an analog but took a hit off my old Evod instead, as soon as vaping was better than the morning cigarette I was DONE!

You will get there. Even if you do decide to have a smoke every now and then, its not the end of the world, just keep vaping and it will take over the analog habit.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

Yeah, I'm with axiom on this one. The higher nic level might help you out. I also wouldn't worry about how much liquid you're going through for the first bit. It's good to keep track of, but for the first month I destroyed huge amounts of juices. My g/f started calling it my "pacifier" and I was permanently attached to the thing. Just vape until you're satisfied, and then once the analog cravings go away, you can worry about cutting back on nic levels.

 

[KattMamma]

As Roxy said, you may be craving other stuff that's in the cigs.

Some here have used Whole Tobacco Alkoloids (often referred to as WTA)... I never tried it but have seen others say it's what helped them. Hopefully someone can jump in with a link to a good thread with info on it.

Congrats on your decision to quit smoking and good luck! It will eventually get easier!

 

[Hitcat44]

Stay The Course! It WILL Work for You IF You do. The Cravings Will dissipate.
As others have said, depending on if Quality Juice or Smoke Shop Sewer Spew, go to 24 Nic till they pass and don't waste your time counting ml's.
Doesn't matter in the least.
The consumption will go down and settle out and your Nic Needs/Wants will too. That takes time. Ya gotta give It to get That.

Welcome and Refuse to Lose.

 

[VNeil]

There are other addictive chemicals in cigs. Search for "WTA" here (Whole Tobacco Alkaloids). You can add WTA to your juice if you feel it necessary, and it is certainly far better than relapsing.

Personal advice based on my experience... try hard not to relapse into dual use. I found that the first time I quit for a week or so immediately after I started vaping was MUCH EASIER than the second time around, a couple months later, after I was back to a PAD and climbing to my old 2-3 PAD habit.

The only way I was able to quit was to simply decide I would never take another puff of a cig again. I'm only a week short of one year since that last puff. I am quite sure I am only one puff away from returning to a 2-3 PAD habit, despite the fact that I never seriously think about smoking anymore. There is evil in those cigs, and it is not the nic or not just the nic.

The 4th and 5th days were the hardest for me, and then it got steadily easier. But everyone is different. And I am convinced that, at least for me, it can NEVER EVER get better until you have taken your last puff and are committed to being fully smoke free. Sneaking cigs here and there is a recipe for endless torment.

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi and welcome to the board. The cravings are in your brain, not necessarily your body. I also found an addiction to the hand-to-mouth motion of smoking. I still have it, three years later, and I am pretty much over the nicotine problem. Stick with it, you're winning. Very well done so far.

 

[dcfluegel]

congrats - and to echo Hitcat44, stay the course - you got this

and Welcome!

 

[AXIOM_1]

Yeah, I'm with axiom on this one. The higher nic level might help you out. I also wouldn't worry about how much liquid you're going through for the first bit. It's good to keep track of, but for the first month I destroyed huge amounts of juices. My g/f started calling it my "pacifier" and I was permanently attached to the thing. Just vape until you're satisfied, and then once the analog cravings go away, you can worry about cutting back on nic levels.

lol, I know what you mean about having the vape pen attached to us My wife started to make "jabs" at me because the very first thing I would reach for upon waking is my mod and bottle of juice (I drip lots).... We have house cats and so sometimes the cats would play with my little dropper bottle of liquid that I would set by the bed and in the mornings I would frantically have to hunt for it My wife tells me I am worse (more attached) with vaping than I was with smoking and chewing tobacco. Don't get me wrong though because she is totally supportive of my vaping. She often tells me how happy she is that I discovered vaping so that she no longer has to deal with that horrid smoke. But, she does like to tease me from time to time about my addictions

 

[VNeil]

lol, I know what you mean about having the vape pen attached to us My wife started to make "jabs" at me because the very first thing I would reach for upon waking is my mod and bottle of juice (I drip lots).... We have house cats and so sometimes the cats would play with my little dropper bottle of liquid that I would set by the bed and in the mornings I would frantically have to hunt for it My wife tells me I am worse (more attached) with vaping than I was with smoking and chewing tobacco. Don't get me wrong though because she is totally supportive of my vaping. She often tells me how happy she is that I discovered vaping so that she no longer has to deal with that horrid smoke. But, she does like to tease me from time to time about my addictions

The first thing I reached for was a smoke . Now it's a vape. I've been chain vaping a year but I'm doing it guilt free. I just wish it were more socially acceptable.

 

[AXIOM_1]

There are other addictive chemicals in cigs. Search for "WTA" here (Whole Tobacco Alkaloids). You can add WTA to your juice if you feel it necessary, and it is certainly far better than relapsing.

Personal advice based on my experience... try hard not to relapse into dual use. I found that the first time I quit for a week or so immediately after I started vaping was MUCH EASIER than the second time around, a couple months later, after I was back to a PAD and climbing to my old 2-3 PAD habit.

The only way I was able to quit was to simply decide I would never take another puff of a cig again. I'm only a week short of one year since that last puff. I am quite sure I am only one puff away from returning to a 2-3 PAD habit, despite the fact that I never seriously think about smoking anymore. There is evil in those cigs, and it is not the nic or not just the nic.

The 4th and 5th days were the hardest for me, and then it got steadily easier. But everyone is different. And I am convinced that, at least for me, it can NEVER EVER get better until you have taken your last puff and are committed to being fully smoke free. Sneaking cigs here and there is a recipe for endless torment.

I tend to think more along the lines of VNeil, at least for me personally. It would have been more difficult for an ape such as myself to try to use dual methods of nic intake...... But, that's just the way my psyche is wired and it probably is not the same as others here. I had to finally reach a point in my tobacco addition that it is either quit or die from the junk. I know that most vapers don't like that limited choice but that was the way it was looking for myself. So, I had to decide to quit once and for all....... But I also knew that it would not be as difficult as trying it cold turkey without the aid of vaping. Sure enough, it works!... Like others have said here, you just have to keep at vaping and not give up. If you give up you will certainly go back to the death sticks. I am certain that the stronger juice will help and then in just a couple of days you will be over the worst part of it.......... then it will be smoother sailing.

One other point...... I am lucky because what helped me most was that I got a juice that had high enough of a PG content that it felt like I was smoking a real cigg.......... In other words, vaping has fooled my mind.......... Even to this very day whenever I vape, I think I am smoking a real cigarette. So, a good tip is to get a juice that is high enough in PG that it will give you a good throat and lung hit and it will feel just like smoking.

 

[sparkky1]

I think your going in the right direction but let me give you a tip, not all delivery systems are created equal meaning try upgrading your atomizer for better satisfaction, maybe a kanger subtank mini or aspire nautilus mini.

How Much Nicotine Is In One Cigarette?

 

[AXIOM_1]

The first thing I reached for was a smoke . Now it's a vape. I've been chain vaping a year but I'm doing it guilt free. I just wish it were more socially acceptable.

I wished I had the mental clarity (lack of guilt) that you do in regards to vaping but I don't..... I suppose it's mostly because I had already quit smoking with the help of chewing tobacco.......... But I found myself as hopelessly addicted to chewing as I was with ciggs. So, now I am back to putting things back into my lungs after having given my lungs a rest for 5 years via chewing tobacco. But, vaping certainly helped me quit all forms of tobacco and for that I am grateful.

Yes, I too wish it were more socially acceptable

 

[NoFumus]

For the first couple weeks or so, I'd pick up my vape pen, and then start searching around for the lighter.

 

[AXIOM_1]

For the first couple weeks or so, I'd pick up my vape pen, and then start searching around for the lighter.

lol ... yes I can see this easily happening I had already quit smoking via chewing tobacco and so I was already over the habit of reaching for a lighter. But, had that not been the case then I probably would have done the same thing