First Time member, new to vaping :)

[Cl0udBeast]

Hey Ladies and Gents, first i'd just like to say hi to the community here, i'm a new member from Ontario, Canada. i recently just started vaping about a month ago, and just had a couple of questions hoping somebody can help

for starters, my mod is an eVic VTC Dual, running off of 2 IMR 18650 300mAh 3.7V batteries. I run 2 different atomizers right now, first is a joyetech Ultimo with a store bought .26 Ohm coil, and i also have a Smok TFV8 Cloud beast octuplet coil running 1.6 Ohms for when i feel like going through more juice than a kindergarten class at snack break. I've been reading about about the dangers of sub Ohm vaping, and studying a bit of Ohms Law, and im just trying to figure out how "safe" my set up really is. so from what i know is as follows,

with my cloud beast running 1.6 Ohms i run it at 100W which puts out 4 Volts and 25 Amps,

with my Ultimo running .26 Ohms i run at 70W which puts out 4.27 Volts @ 16.41 Amps,

so would these be overloading my 2 18650's? or do the volts for those combine together to create 7.4V total there by i'm safe and still under the maximum capacity? my average draw is around 4.2-5.1 seconds, would smoking repeatedly create more risk? as ive noticed if i take 5 or 6 draws straight the mod itself gets fairly warm?

i know a lot of people are against running sub ohm coils, especially below the .5 range, but i would assume that a store bought coil running .16 would have to be safe for the company to sell it, and most mods blowing up or catching fire is due to people building their own before doing their research, is that correct?

sorry i know there's a lot going into this, i just wanted to be thorough and not waste anyone's time not supplying the correct information and on that note, i'd appreciate not hearing "opinions" on this, compared to facts. if you don't know for sure, please don't comment. quite frankly, i don't want to blow my face off to trust an "opinion" of someone who knows no more than i do. i am also fairly technical and mechanically inclined so i'm all for real scientific data

Thanks Guys

 

[djsvapour]

What are your batteries? (The make, brand?)
You can go along way safely with a 2 battery mod.... your mod presumably gives you a read-out of the amps.
You do mean 0.16 (0.15) with the cloud beast?

 

[Cl0udBeast]

What are your batteries? (The make, brand?)
You can go along way safely with a 2 battery mod.... your mod presumably gives you a read-out of the amps.
You do mean 0.16 (0.15) with the cloud beast?

the name on the Batteries are LG HG2 lithium ions, yes my mod gives me a read out of the amps, volts, adjustable wattage, timer, and Ohms. and yes the cloud beast is registered as a .15 ohm but my mod reads it as .16 Ohms. hope that's what you're asking for

 

[djsvapour]

the name on the Batteries are LG HG2 lithium ions, yes my mod gives me a read out of the amps, volts, adjustable wattage, timer, and Ohms. and yes the cloud beast is registered as a .15 ohm but my mod reads it as .16 Ohms. hope that's what you're asking for

That all sounds great. Those are good batteries. A reading of 0.16 is very close... Vape on!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Welcome to ecf.
Use this calculator to find your answers. Quite useful.
Coil wrapping
Click on the tab that says ohm's law

 

[BrotherBob]

Hey Ladies and Gents, first i'd just like to say hi to the community here, i'm a new member from Ontario, Canada. i recently just started vaping about a month ago, and just had a couple of questions hoping somebody can help
for starters, my mod is an eVic VTC Dual, running off of 2 IMR 18650 300mAh 3.7V batteries. I run 2 different atomizers right now, first is a joyetech Ultimo with a store bought .26 Ohm coil, and i also have a Smok TFV8 Cloud beast octuplet coil running 1.6 Ohms for when i feel like going through more juice than a kindergarten class at snack break. I've been reading about about the dangers of sub Ohm vaping, and studying a bit of Ohms Law, and im just trying to figure out how "safe" my set up really is. so from what i know is as follows,
with my cloud beast running 1.6 Ohms i run it at 100W which puts out 4 Volts and 25 Amps,
with my Ultimo running .26 Ohms i run at 70W which puts out 4.27 Volts @ 16.41 Amps,
so would these be overloading my 2 18650's? or do the volts for those combine together to create 7.4V total there by i'm safe and still under the maximum capacity? my average draw is around 4.2-5.1 seconds, would smoking repeatedly create more risk? as ive noticed if i take 5 or 6 draws straight the mod itself gets fairly warm?
Thanks Guys

Welcome and glad you joined.
Might like to read:
All About Sub-Ohm Vaping - The Perks and the Problems
What is Sub Ohm Vaping? Our Sub Ohm Vaping Guide & Tips
ECF Sub-Ohm Advisory

 

[rice721]

You're LG HG2s are capable of 20A continuous discharge.

Generally you don't want to exceed 60W per cell on a 20A cell. In other words, if your mod only takes a single 18650 and you have an LG HG2 in there you don't want to exceed 60W, if its a dual 18650 mod - 120W, triple 18650 - 180W, so on and so forth.

Some forum favorite 18650s are

LG HG2 (brown)
Samsung 30Q (pink) and 25R (green)
Sony VTC4 and VTC5 (greens)

 

[Cl0udBeast]

Welcome to ecf.
Use this calculator to find your answers. Quite useful.
Coil wrapping
Click on the tab that says ohm's law

awesome thanks for the tip i will definitely check this out

 

[Cl0udBeast]

Welcome and glad you joined.
Might like to read:
All About Sub-Ohm Vaping - The Perks and the Problems
What is Sub Ohm Vaping? Our Sub Ohm Vaping Guide & Tips
ECF Sub-Ohm Advisory

thanks for the advice, ill read through these topics and hopefully learn a bit more about it all

 

[Cl0udBeast]

You're LG HG2s are capable of 20A continuous discharge.

Generally you don't want to exceed 60W per cell on a 20A cell. In other words, if your mod only takes a single 18650 and you have an LG HG2 in there you don't want to exceed 60W, if its a dual 18650 mod - 120W, triple 18650 - 180W, so on and so forth.

Some forum favorite 18650s are

LG HG2 (brown)
Samsung 30Q (pink) and 25R (green)
Sony VTC4 and VTC5 (greens)

okay thats good to know, is that any battery cells that are larger and can supply a higher wattage output that the 18650s? i wouldnt mind being able to crank my TFV8 up a bit higher, but then i need a whole new mod i think if i wanted to add an extra battery (N)

 

[Baditude]

Being that the mod you are using is a regulated mod, it has protection circuitry against short circuits, over-discharge of the batteries, atomizer too low protection, and timed cutoff of the fire button. A regulated mod is far safer than a mechanical mod, especially for beginners. You should still use high quality, high drain, safer chemistry batteries which the Lg HG2 batteries are. So 2 thumbs up for safety.

Safety issues are potentially more likely if you use a mechanical mod, which lacks any protection circuitry. A mech mod's only safety circuitry is the one between your ears. One must have a basic understanding of ohm's law and the amp limits of their batteries to stay safe.

For your reading pleasure:

Ohm's Law Explained for Vapers

• My attempt at explaining Ohm's Law in simple layman terms and how it relates to vaping.

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries Part 1

• For those who want to learn the differences between IMR, IMR/hybrid, ICR, and LiPo batteries. What do those numbers and letters on batteries mean? What's an amp rating and why is it more important than the mAh rating when choosing a battery for vaping?

Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping

• A popular and essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.

A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

• Covers the differences between a mechanical vs. regulated mod, essential safety accessories, optional safety accessories to add layers of safety to your mech, routine maintanance, use of proper batteries, proper ventilation, low resistance vaping, and faux hybrid mods.

 

[Baditude]

is that any battery cells that are larger and can supply a higher wattage output that the 18650s? i wouldnt mind being able to crank my TFV8 up a bit higher, but then i need a whole new mod i think if i wanted to add an extra battery

There are 26650 batteries which are larger than 18650 batteries, but they only provide more mAh capacity, not more amps.

There are a few 18650 batteries which offer a true 30 amp continuous discharge rate (LG HB series), but the majority of commonly used 18650 batteries that we use have 20 amps CDR.

If you feel that you need more wattage, I suggest getting a three-battery mod like a Wismec RX200. You can get up to 180 watts power.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

okay thats good to know, is that any battery cells that are larger and can supply a higher wattage output that the 18650s? i wouldnt mind being able to crank my TFV8 up a bit higher, but then i need a whole new mod i think if i wanted to add an extra battery (N)

Most are run on the 18650 batteries, but there are some starting to come out that are a bit larger(new mods). If you are interested in a mod with 3 batteries, then the reuleaux 2/3 is a good mod.
You can find them in the states ranging from $39.99(on sale) up to $55. I have 2 and love em.

 

[Cl0udBeast]

Most are run on the 18650 batteries, but there are some starting to come out that are a bit larger(new mods). If you are interested in a mod with 3 batteries, then the reuleaux 2/3 is a good mod.
You can find them in the states ranging from $39.99(on sale) up to $55. I have 2 and love em.

i just did some research quickly on the reuleaux rx2/3 seems like a nice mod, definitely going to give that some though, thanks for the tip

 

[Cl0udBeast]

Being that the mod you are using is a regulated mod, it has protection circuitry against short circuits, over-discharge of the batteries, atomizer too low protection, and timed cutoff of the fire button. A regulated mod is far safer than a mechanical mod, especially for beginners. You should still use high quality, high drain, safer chemistry batteries which the Lg HG2 batteries are. So 2 thumbs up for safety.

Safety issues are potentially more likely if you use a mechanical mod, which lacks any protection circuitry. A mech mod's only safety circuitry is the one between your ears. One must have a basic understanding of ohm's law and the amp limits of their batteries to stay safe.

For your reading pleasure:

Ohm's Law Explained for Vapers

• My attempt at explaining Ohm's Law in simple layman terms and how it relates to vaping.

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries Part 1

• For those who want to learn the differences between IMR, IMR/hybrid, ICR, and LiPo batteries. What do those numbers and letters on batteries mean? What's an amp rating and why is it more important than the mAh rating when choosing a battery for vaping?

Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping

• A popular and essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.

A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

• Covers the differences between a mechanical vs. regulated mod, essential safety accessories, optional safety accessories to add layers of safety to your mech, routine maintanance, use of proper batteries, proper ventilation, low resistance vaping, and faux hybrid mods.

wow impressive list you've got here, this is going to give me some nice reading materials for the next little while 2 thumbs up

 

[rice721]

okay thats good to know, is that any battery cells that are larger and can supply a higher wattage output that the 18650s? i wouldnt mind being able to crank my TFV8 up a bit higher, but then i need a whole new mod i think if i wanted to add an extra battery (N)

IMHO, if you want to "crank" up the wattage, its best to go with mods that require 2 or more 18650 batteries. 20A seems to be the current norm (you can get 25-30A out of the VTC4s but they are highly counterfeited).

 

[Smoke_too_much]

Hi Cloudbeast & welcome
You've got a nice setup there. I like the Evics a lot, have 4 and just ordered 3 more before they disappear from the market. They are all the mini's with only the one battery but I like the size.
If you buy a Cloud beast you pretty much have to accept that it's the "Hummer" of tanks and your mileage will be the pits, but then Hummer owners don't worry about mileage do they.
Not sure why you think a lot of people don't like sub-ohm coils below 0.5. I've never gotten that impression, and certainly not seen it here. Almost all my tanks are running below 0.5 with fully half of them less than 0.3.

 

[KenD]

Forget about the amp display. It shows the amps at the atomizer, which is useless information. The amp draw for regulated mods is calculated thusly:

Watts (add 10% to account for chip inefficiency) / battery cutoff voltage (x2 for series mods) = amps

You use the cutoff voltage (usually 3.2v), not the nominal voltage. With series mods you multiply the voltage per the number of batteries but the amp draw is per battery, with parallel mods you use the voltage of a single battery but divide the amps by the number of batteries.

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[Cheallaigh]

if you're near Ottawa.. from the 18th thru 20th the CVE is running. Canada's Vape Expo this would be good to go to... I know I'm planning on driving down for the 19th (it's a roughly 5-6 hour drive for me).