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I use my dog as a food taster before i eat something i left in fridge too long, I do not like my dog.
The op hasn't mentioned anything about a mech, so let's please not confuse them with information overload!
I'd like to add a couple of things, the 20% of battery load is a great place to be! 20a battery, figure a 15a load. This is done for a couple of reasons I've not seen mentioned and since you like info, I'll give you some. These are imperfect devices, rba's/RTA's in particular, and assembled by humans, things happen! Just yesterday I was having issues with an RTA not working properly. I either didn't tighten or the screw just came loose on one side of the coil. This caused it to not work all the time and the resistance to jump all over the place. This was on a regulated mod like your rx200, so not a huge deal. A mod without built in protection, could have been a big deal!
Another thing I've not seen mentioned is battery sag, this is the actual voltage of your battery under load. Simplistic explanation, turn the headlights on in your car, nice and bright, now try to start your car, notice how they dim? The cars battery has around 13.5 volts at idle, but will drop to around 11.5 Volts under a hard load. The same happens with a mod battery. So if we factor in sag, probaly around 3.7v fresh off the charger, vs the 4.2v at idle, your .25 ohm coil will see around 14.8 amps.
I know it's confusing and a lot to take in at first, but you are asking the right questions and already were heading in the right direction so you'll get it figured out sooner than you think!
I'd like to add a couple of things, the 20% of battery load is a great place to be! 20a battery, figure a 15a load. This is done for a couple of reasons I've not seen mentioned and since you like info, I'll give you some. These are imperfect devices, rba's/RTA's in particular, and assembled by humans, things happen! Just yesterday I was having issues with an RTA not working properly. I either didn't tighten or the screw just came loose on one side of the coil. This caused it to not work all the time and the resistance to jump all over the place. This was on a regulated mod like your rx200, so not a huge deal. A mod without built in protection, could have been a big deal!
Another thing I've not seen mentioned is battery sag, this is the actual voltage of your battery under load. Simplistic explanation, turn the headlights on in your car, nice and bright, now try to start your car, notice how they dim? The cars battery has around 13.5 volts at idle, but will drop to around 11.5 Volts under a hard load. The same happens with a mod battery. So if we factor in sag, probaly around 3.7v fresh off the charger, vs the 4.2v at idle, your .25 ohm coil will see around 14.8 amps.
I know it's confusing and a lot to take in at first, but you are asking the right questions and already were heading in the right direction so you'll get it figured out sooner than you think!
thank you! believe it or not, high school! im on my way to college next month
. congrats to you too! keep plugging away, you can do anything!Great thank you for going out of your way to help me! so you think this set up will be ok considering the ohms are at .25 or higher on the atty? I really appreciate the added info. the more i can learn from experienced folks like yourself the better and safer i can become.
AT .25 I'd be comfortable with that set up, BUT, remember things change VERY quickly from there down! At .2 you are at 18.5 amps, at .15 ohms you are at 24.6 amps. I would NOT feel very comfortable using that, and it's not much of an error to get there.
Complete honesty, I don't build anything below .7 ohms on a mechanical. I don't care for the sub ohm craze, and haven't for a long time. As I said, you are asking the right questions and had a decent handle on it to start with, but it's not my cup of tea.
On the flip side of that, I'm using sub ohm builds on regulated mods, Eleaf Pico and Istick TC 200w, at .2 and .14ohms that still make me a bit nervous! I'm old school so take that for what it is.
Try just a single .5 to start with, then see if you really want to double it up from there, basically what you'd be doing. I've vaped .2 ohms on a mech a few times, believe me, it's not for the faint of heart!
Complete honesty, I don't build anything below .7 ohms on a mechanical. I don't care for the sub ohm craze, and haven't for a long time. As I said, you are asking the right questions and had a decent handle on it to start with, but it's not my cup of tea.
On the flip side of that, I'm using sub ohm builds on regulated mods, Eleaf Pico and Istick TC 200w, at .2 and .14ohms that still make me a bit nervous! I'm old school so take that for what it is.
Try just a single .5 to start with, then see if you really want to double it up from there, basically what you'd be doing. I've vaped .2 ohms on a mech a few times, believe me, it's not for the faint of heart!
Hey, so i just got everything, build the atty etc. ohms are reading anywhere from .35-.60 usually theyre at a steady .45. Anyway i like the mod it looks amazing, but it just doesnt pack a big enough punch or something. The rda works amazing on my rx200. but it just doesnt feel the same when im hitting the mech. i added a pic and few videos of the build and one video of me hitting the limitless rda on my rx and then one of the mech mod setup. do you think a better battery would do the trick. let me know if you have any suggestions.
With a .45Ω resistance the mechanical is only capable of 39w max while the rx 200 is capable of supplying much more power to the coil.
What @Topwater Elvis said, you aren't comparing apples to apples here. You will never, SAFELY, get a single battery mech to be able to do 200w, 75w is really pushing it in a single battery mech.
There are multiple battery mechs, one guy builds a mech that holds 18? 18650's, it's ignorant! I don't advise such things!
Unless you want to buy a competition (lots of money) atty and build some crazy coils (lots of time and frustration), I'm afraid you aren't going to have anything that will be capable of doing what your rx200 will do. I wish I'd have known this was your intent, I'd had have you saved your money.
There are multiple battery mechs, one guy builds a mech that holds 18? 18650's, it's ignorant! I don't advise such things!
Unless you want to buy a competition (lots of money) atty and build some crazy coils (lots of time and frustration), I'm afraid you aren't going to have anything that will be capable of doing what your rx200 will do. I wish I'd have known this was your intent, I'd had have you saved your money.
Is that the one where it looks like somebody took an electrical service box, pulled out all the circuit breakers, and filled it with batteries? I saw that and thought never mind someone using it near me, I wouldn't even want it in my neighborhood.
An 18 year old using mechs because it looks "dope". I'm certain this is the leading cause of pants fires and missing lips.
Anyway, why would you move to a mech? You lose lots of functionality and more importantly you lose all the safety features. Whatever I guess. To each their own. At least you are doing your homework. Please follow the advice here so you don't end up as an anti-vaping pawn like too many have lately.
Anyway, why would you move to a mech? You lose lots of functionality and more importantly you lose all the safety features. Whatever I guess. To each their own. At least you are doing your homework. Please follow the advice here so you don't end up as an anti-vaping pawn like too many have lately.
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There's a guy on Facebook that has a 3-D printer, he makes then from two cells up to? Lots of vids on YouTube about them, I can't link most because of the language! It's a "Noisey Chricket" on steroids! I'm also with you, if someone pulled out something like that, I'm exiting the room with a quickness! Nothing good is about to happen!
I had seen you mention that you had ordered twisted 26G coils previously if I am not mistaken. This has a lot to do with that lack of a punch that you're feeling coming off of the mech. Im sure putting the RDA on the RX and kicking the power delivers that punch are looking for.
The thing with Mechanicals is you have to build your coil to suit a fixed voltage essentially. When building for a regulated Ohms law goes out the window and you can build to whichever range will work for you, and put big coils on it, kick the power, and have no ramp up and as much kick as you want. With a twisted 26G set of coils on a Mech you have a lot of mass you have to heat up, with not very much power. As stated above those coils are seeing somewhere around 40ish Watts on the mech, which is very little power for the mass of metal you are attempting to heat. Instead of heating a single wire(1 coil, wrapped normally), you are in turn heating 2 wires, per coil, and increasing the mass of metal you are heating at the same time. I bet if you were to put this build on the RX, hit it with 60-70W it will liven right up to the punch you are looking for. With mechanicals I have found that I get my best results using simple 22-26G coils, no twisting, just plain old coils. You have to factor in that you have only a fixed power output based on your voltage and resistance. Next time you are in the market for some coils, if you dont build your own, look for simple coils, and try again with the mech. Something like 24G or 26G coils should suit you well.
When I build for a mech I generally run in the .13-.25 range, leaning more towards lower resistance, but that I would not reccomend until you are confident in your builds, and you can get a consistent resistance at all times. Its all about learning with mechs, and learning the ins and outs of them. They are simple devices that are build dependent. Regulated are much more complex devices, but free you from the dependency on your build. As you build more, and play with different builds, wire types, and different resistances you start to find the sweet spot for yourself. There is a lot of trying out different builds, to really learn how a mechanical functions. I myself started out working with mech mods, and RDAs building my coils(very breif run with Sub ohm tanks, quickly moved on), so I learned mechs in and out before I started with regulated. It took me about a month of putting lots and lots of builds in before I started to really dial in on what worked best for me.
Something else I want to expand on is the part where you mention your resistance fluctuates from .35-.6, when are you measuring your coil? And are you getting this fluctuation regularly before you start using the RDA? If so, please stop using it immediately, and check your build over for any loose legs, or breaks in the coil. seeing a resistance range that great to me instantly throws some red flags that something isn't proper in that build, and there is an unstable connection. You should really see no more than .05 change in resistance between devices(Not all regulated mods read the same, same goes for resistance checkers). A short in your build or a loose connection can lead to a lot of issues without the safety of a regulated board to back you up.
Above all, be safe, have fun, and keep learning. You are asking all the right questions, and seem to pick up concepts very quickly, which will suit you well going forward. I have faith that you will find your sweet spot with your new device, and truly come to enjoy the pure vape a mech can give you. We will always be here to help you along, and to help you find that spot you enjoy!
not sure why its that big of an issue, for an 18 year old to have a vaping hobby. and yes i would like my device to look cool and preform well, which is what 'dope' means. obviously people dont understand 'teenager words' on this forum. bc why wouldn't you want a device that you pay almost 200$ to be cool and blow some nice clouds? at least im on this forum trying to learn how to not blow myself up. im sure you had to learn all of this stuff at one point too. i like to try new things, experiment etc. ive had reg mods the entire time ive vaped. time for something new. sorry you are so upset with kids taking over the vape game
so informative! cant thank you enough for your help. i will def try some new coils out on my mech. the setup on my rda now is amazing on my rx. makes sense why its lacking a little on the mech. thanks again! i really, really appreciate it!
sorry you are so upset with kids taking over the vape game
Actually, "kids taking over the vape game" is basically the death knell of vaping as we know it. Have fun while you can.
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