First time vaping in a pub

From what I understand, some drinking establishments find it to be a hassle, not because of the vapor, but because it makes analog smokers think smoking is allowed.

 

Here in Spain, at the coast, no problems in bars and restaurants. Most love it, and even the no smokers, except of some of the "no smoker nazis", are positive about it, specially after explaning what it is, how it works, the composition of the juice, and all these things most of the non vapers ignore.
I believe we vapers should be more explaning to the other people, what the vapour is composed by.

 

I could see both. Non smokers who are unaware of vaping and analog smokers who also don't know about it could cause a problem for a barkeep.
I was in Savannah Ga. last week vaping (outside) and I heard a man say to his wife."I don't know what that is but she's not smoking." I just smiled.

 

Just what i think, we should be explaning what it is, that would keep most of the people away from complaning about it.

 

First off... welcome back. ;-)

And unfortunately I see this getting worse before it gets better. People seriously think that vaping is some chemical travesty and their inhaling the remnants of Soylent Green or something. It's really a bizarre reaction.

Good on you for standing your ground thought!

I have to ask though.. where did you exhale? It's too warm to be wearing anything covering anything up.

Never mind, don't answer that question. -Magnus

 

This is exactly why I don't ask, I just vape away until they come over to me.

I'm quite good at sounding all scinetific and sounding like I know what I'm on about so they usually leave it after they realise I'm trying to engage them in a scientific debate in which they are unarmed.

You would have to be quite an idiot analgue smoker to assume this pen like thing I'm sucking on which gives no smell what-so-ever out is a real cigarette and that's fine to smoke inside.

 

Well at least you did not get kicked out

 

The only time I was ever told I couldn't vape in an establishment is when I asked first.
That was a mistake. I was told no. I won't go back there.

I've never asked before or since. Been in a massive amount of restaurants and establishments, and rarely get even a look or comment unless from a waitress/waiter who is curious and wants to try one. I carry 8 cig sized and condoms with a hole cut, and hand it to em.
Coffee refills are always spot on when that happens.

Advice?
Let them tell you NO after they catch you. It probably won't happen unless you are throwing massive cigar like clouds.

Pig

 

I usually do not say anything and I rarely get bothered.

I agree, just let then come up to you.

 

At this moment it lookes like just vaping saying nothing gives you less problems for doing so.

At a larger time scale, we have the problem that big lobbys are fighting against us with a big part of the press secundasing them, so it would be in our interes to let people know that vaping is not offensiv to their health, making campaigns against us less efective.

I believe we are loosing the battle against the tabacco and farmaceutical industrie, and the politiciens, who see us vaping away their profits and taxes.

Thats a terrible lot of money, billions, we are fighting against, and only with publicity and information we can keep on vaping as we do now. IMHO

 

@Magnus, Soylent Green ftw

 

fsrog
Spain is a small country. Get at the media with good data, and make a stand.

 

The media in Spain? they are all sold. Most of them to the left range of policy, who want to rule your life from even before you are born, and are very very very much worried about all the taxes they are loosing with the people who dont smoke anymore.

Haha, earthpig, can a pig ask the butcher for help, because somebody wants to grill him on a BBQ!

 

Easy out for him if you let him get away with that load of …. First of all if you are causing no harm to anyone why ask? By asking permission you are broadcasting to him that you are doing something wrong. You want them to come to you if there is a complaint. I would remind him that there are two sides of that coin and he is going to get a lot of hassle from the customers that are most affected. Ignorance is no excuse for a ban on anything involving such a personal matter. “I don’t like that guy over there smacking on his chewing gum or people in here are eating p-nuts. OMG didn’t you know that p-nuts are an ingredient in Dynamite!” A savvy pub owner would be better served by educating himself about what is causing the hassle, understanding that there is no harm being done and be able to alleviate the concerns of an ignorant complainer. I have owned a bar in the past and I would much rather have the “complainer” never return than PO a group of people causing no harm.

 

Yes Sir, I agree to that. Then also I think that such a big comunity as we are, should find a way to defend our way of view.

 

The NVC make some really nice "It's not smoke, its VAPOR!" cards. I just toss one on the table. On the back is a nice little blurb (I hate that word) about e-cigs and what they are. I may not always agree with the NVC, but education is key and these are dynamite. People will believe written word over a speech in most cases. I just wish they would sell them by the box, I only have a few left.

 

I love that. Thats the kind of thing we should be doing.

Then, what is NVC?

Where can you get these cards?