Five Pawns now has a $38 for a 30ml bottle of juice
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On my first visit to the vape shop I tried a bunch of juices from a number of different companies, including Five Pawns.
I was after a more simple taste rather than flavored mixes(what'd you expect from a recent analog quitter?). In the end I settled for a house blend(Shark Juice in my case) and a bottle of Grandmaster.
First day I was alternating between the two, the second it was the Grandmaster all day. Perfect for my needs. 3rd day I added a bottle of their Bowden's mate and now it's what I use as adv.
Did I worry about price? Let me put it this way: I see vaping as means of quitting smoking. I would rather have the smoothest transition I can get vs a momentary saving of x dollars. House blend is $11/15ml. Other brand - $13/15ml. This - $30/30ml. Not a whole lot of difference to pay for your personal comfort, is it? Chicken or the egg kind of issue, if you ask me. For a 2 pack a day smoker, two packs of Parliaments would run $14 on average in my area.
That said, I am not in any way advocating for Five Pawns or anything of the like.Merely stating that their juice flavors "clicked" for me, and I have no reason to continue buying things out of curiosity/searching for novelties. Do not feel the need to have dozens of different juices, and do not possess the time and knowledge to make my own.
I, as many here I assume, turned to vaping for a particular result, not for the love of process. My hobbies take a significant toll on me already, and I don't have the need to increase spending by adding another one.
.02, and YMMV of course.
Oh - the final comment.
I have a bottle of this Castle Long Reserve that started this thread. I don't feel it's as much as the company states it is. Complex, yeah, but definitely not something I'll be using. Most likely I'll end up gifting it to somebody.
I was after a more simple taste rather than flavored mixes(what'd you expect from a recent analog quitter?). In the end I settled for a house blend(Shark Juice in my case) and a bottle of Grandmaster.
First day I was alternating between the two, the second it was the Grandmaster all day. Perfect for my needs. 3rd day I added a bottle of their Bowden's mate and now it's what I use as adv.
Did I worry about price? Let me put it this way: I see vaping as means of quitting smoking. I would rather have the smoothest transition I can get vs a momentary saving of x dollars. House blend is $11/15ml. Other brand - $13/15ml. This - $30/30ml. Not a whole lot of difference to pay for your personal comfort, is it? Chicken or the egg kind of issue, if you ask me. For a 2 pack a day smoker, two packs of Parliaments would run $14 on average in my area.
That said, I am not in any way advocating for Five Pawns or anything of the like.Merely stating that their juice flavors "clicked" for me, and I have no reason to continue buying things out of curiosity/searching for novelties. Do not feel the need to have dozens of different juices, and do not possess the time and knowledge to make my own.
I, as many here I assume, turned to vaping for a particular result, not for the love of process. My hobbies take a significant toll on me already, and I don't have the need to increase spending by adding another one.
.02, and YMMV of course.
Oh - the final comment.
I have a bottle of this Castle Long Reserve that started this thread. I don't feel it's as much as the company states it is. Complex, yeah, but definitely not something I'll be using. Most likely I'll end up gifting it to somebody.
Honestly, Barenjager, the liquor, is pretty darn expensive; double the price of Jack or Wild Turkey or whoever. However, it's literally the best and smoothest liquor I have ever tasted in my life. The best wine I've ever tasted in my life has, however, been $5 off Walmart shelves. Price never seems to correlate with finding what seems unique and well made to you. My motto tends to be try everything once; as a free sample, if you can. Just to list other things - my favorite steak is the $20 Filet from O'Charley's (completely fatless and super soft, a rare find - their other steaks taste like sweaty old men or dog), my favorite dessert is the 2-for-$1 Holiday Pies from McDonald's, which to me, taste like pure cupcake batter.
Aging juice in a barrel is indeed a concept. Anyone ever dab Jack on their skin and take a whiff after the alcohol absorbs? One of the best scents in the universe. All from the wood its aged in. Who knows if this concept transfers to juice; it'd probably take quite a few months in a barrel before the flavor really would even begin to set in. It'd be the only reason I'd think about trying it. I'd say that any reputable company would have little $5 bottles, in whatever size they want, as a sample so that no one's out of money that could pay for a nice family dinner.
For me, if someone made me a vape that was literally perfect and so complex and unique that it practically flooded my head with a dozen childhood memories, I'd probably pay $5 for a good day-long amount of vape (not a heavy vaper here, so that's prolly not even an evod full). I payed $5 a day for nasty Newport things. An (amazing) bottle of Red Velvet wine from Walmart costs $5 too. Spending $35 or so on anything, though, before you have any clue about it... that's a risky move. I do spend money on the things I truly require (concerning $20 steaks, for example, my gag reflexes can't handle fat nor dog-tasting meats - it's either I buy expensive [and complain and get it for free if it's even a tad bad], or I can't eat steak. I've tried just about every steak under the sun, most $12-ish restaurant steaks aren't fit for a cheap chinese buffet or Taco Bell burrito. Ruth's Chris have so-so steaks - no fat, very soft, but no flavor. $40. So I'm not about what's most expensive, just about not paying for crap because it's $5 cheaper.), and if I found a juice that to me was the joy that O'Charley's Filets or Walmart Wines give me, then I'm shelling out whichever price they require.
Not trying this brand of juice though until I get my first million dollars!
Aging juice in a barrel is indeed a concept. Anyone ever dab Jack on their skin and take a whiff after the alcohol absorbs? One of the best scents in the universe. All from the wood its aged in. Who knows if this concept transfers to juice; it'd probably take quite a few months in a barrel before the flavor really would even begin to set in. It'd be the only reason I'd think about trying it. I'd say that any reputable company would have little $5 bottles, in whatever size they want, as a sample so that no one's out of money that could pay for a nice family dinner.
For me, if someone made me a vape that was literally perfect and so complex and unique that it practically flooded my head with a dozen childhood memories, I'd probably pay $5 for a good day-long amount of vape (not a heavy vaper here, so that's prolly not even an evod full). I payed $5 a day for nasty Newport things. An (amazing) bottle of Red Velvet wine from Walmart costs $5 too. Spending $35 or so on anything, though, before you have any clue about it... that's a risky move. I do spend money on the things I truly require (concerning $20 steaks, for example, my gag reflexes can't handle fat nor dog-tasting meats - it's either I buy expensive [and complain and get it for free if it's even a tad bad], or I can't eat steak. I've tried just about every steak under the sun, most $12-ish restaurant steaks aren't fit for a cheap chinese buffet or Taco Bell burrito. Ruth's Chris have so-so steaks - no fat, very soft, but no flavor. $40. So I'm not about what's most expensive, just about not paying for crap because it's $5 cheaper.), and if I found a juice that to me was the joy that O'Charley's Filets or Walmart Wines give me, then I'm shelling out whichever price they require.
Not trying this brand of juice though until I get my first million dollars!
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You have to try it to believe it. It's so smooth I did back to back direct to lung hits and was loving it.
Caste Long Reserve: "aged" in an oak barrel and tastes like vanilla, coconut, and whiskey
Either Five Pawns is crazy or Socal is in its own little bubble that is actually giving these guys business.
You can see the results in my photo albums here. *laughing*
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If you don't know, you don't know.
Headed to their store today after work as a matter of fact. Time for another bottle of Gambit and some Caste Long.
Anybody drink wine? There is a difference between Silver Oak and Gnarly Head. I think with Juice, it's a bit different but all PG and VG are not the same, nor are the other ingredients. 5 Pawns is worth every penny as far as I'm concerned.
Headed to their store today after work as a matter of fact. Time for another bottle of Gambit and some Caste Long.
Anybody drink wine? There is a difference between Silver Oak and Gnarly Head. I think with Juice, it's a bit different but all PG and VG are not the same, nor are the other ingredients. 5 Pawns is worth every penny as far as I'm concerned.
lol apple pie and ice cream? thats probably one of the easiest DIY recipes for a DIY noob and they are selling it for 40 bucks a bottle? Hey, they are entitled to charge 40 bucks for 30ml but we're entitled to post a thread to ECF to laugh at it too, right? Free market, open forum, free speech.
I decided to put my money where my mouth was - I bought a bottle of Castle Long Reserve (CLR) and gave it a thorough vape.
Raymond was kind enough to let me post my review of it in his Five Pawns review thread. Any and all are welcome to read it.
Five Pawns gets to market themselves however they wish to. They also get to price their liquids however they wish to.
Buy their stuff or don't. The world will continue turning either way. There are all kinds of great vapes to be had from a metric ton of great juice houses.
One thing I won't do though, regardless of what I think about their branding and price points: I won't slag their product.
Castle Long Reserve delivered exactly what Five Pawns said it would. It's the most complex vape I have experienced to date. They nailed it with CLR.
Can we go back to complaining about the clone market or somesuch now?
Raymond was kind enough to let me post my review of it in his Five Pawns review thread. Any and all are welcome to read it.
Five Pawns gets to market themselves however they wish to. They also get to price their liquids however they wish to.
Buy their stuff or don't. The world will continue turning either way. There are all kinds of great vapes to be had from a metric ton of great juice houses.
One thing I won't do though, regardless of what I think about their branding and price points: I won't slag their product.
Castle Long Reserve delivered exactly what Five Pawns said it would. It's the most complex vape I have experienced to date. They nailed it with CLR.
Can we go back to complaining about the clone market or somesuch now?
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I paid 30 bucks a month for a bag of tobacco and filtered tubes for my rolling machine 
Still, this juice has gained a following. there has to be a reason for that. It must be good juice.
Still, this juice has gained a following. there has to be a reason for that. It must be good juice.
They are really missing the boat on this hey what about "devils cut" juice I can see it now... $65 per 30ml:
As juice ages, a portion of the liquid is lost from the barrel due to evaporation—that's the "Angel's Share." After aging, when the juice is dumped out of the barrel, a certain amount of juice is left trapped within the wood of every barrel.
We call that the "devil's cut."
Hey I trademark that idea, five pawns, and want my cut ($) if you can pull that one off. Lol
As juice ages, a portion of the liquid is lost from the barrel due to evaporation—that's the "Angel's Share." After aging, when the juice is dumped out of the barrel, a certain amount of juice is left trapped within the wood of every barrel.
We call that the "devil's cut."
Hey I trademark that idea, five pawns, and want my cut ($) if you can pull that one off. Lol
I paid 30 bucks a month for a bag of tobacco and filtered tubes for my rolling machine
Still, this juice has gained a following. there has to be a reason for that. It must be good juice.
Read your profile. That's not what it says. Says "Used to be a PAD smoker @ $8.75 a pack" Which is $271.25 per month which equates to 7.33 bottles of Castle! or 10 bottles of Gambit - PER MONTH!!!! That's enough to be an ADV for me and my wife both!
Give it a try! You'll see what all the fuss is about. If you're in orange county or anywhere close, you should check out their store front and try the unreleased stuff too. It's FANTASTIC. In fact, I've been hitting up EVERY shop in SoCal over the past two weeks on a mission to try every flavor I can find in hopes of finding something I LOVE that's less expensive. I did find a few, but I've had NOTHING that is as complex or flavorful as the Castle. Gambit is also great, though there are others that are "similar" but in my honest opinion not as good. Still, it's hardly what I'd call a "diy noob flavor".
Anyhow, have a great day!
Nope, I'm a computer guy, not a chemistry guy. But I have tried several "homebrews" at this point, and literally a hundred or so reputable stores own brands - and find MOST of them to be lacking.
But, if you're capable of reproducing Gambit, and want to sell it at $8 a bottle, you got a new customer right here!!!
But, if you're capable of reproducing Gambit, and want to sell it at $8 a bottle, you got a new customer right here!!!
I agree that a lot of the price is marketing. Fancy lot number bottle and all that. Yet every time I go to shopping for juice, I tell myself I'm not going to pay $27.00 for a bottle of juice this time. I sample all the juice I can and in the end end up walking out with another bottle on Grandmaster or Queenside's. It is just GREAT juice. Maybe me being kinda new to this I don't know enough about flavors. If someone can recommend a juice that is comparable I will try it.
I have spent a great deal chasing a great juice.. i have found good. . And one great that was a DIY from a friend.. if you have found a great juice then, vape on, friend! No need to keep chasing the liquid dragon
I don't care if you aged it in a gold barrel for 100 years I would not pay 38 bucks for 30 Mls I appreciate the care you have put into making this juice but its out of a lot of people's morals for vapeing. People use this hobby as I like to say to save money not put more money into it.
Please adjust your prices you better hope who ever buys them thinks its better than gold. Cause their gonna have to sell all their gold to afford it!
Happy ( cost efficient ) vapeing!
Please adjust your prices you better hope who ever buys them thinks its better than gold. Cause their gonna have to sell all their gold to afford it!
Happy ( cost efficient ) vapeing!
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