Five Pawns now has a $38 for a 30ml bottle of juice
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Then start a 401K.... I don't want to sound harsh but it is getting carried away. We are talking about vaping a 38.00 bottle of ejuice that will not have any affect on the future and if it does, don't buy it. Their products market to a segment of buyers that are willing to pay for the entire customer experience and they deliver. Most people who buy 5P products have it as a treat so we aren't talking about refinancing a house to keep a vape budget.
Actually, I don't have much of an opinion on it. Given the other examples I listed -- the stuff you selectively left out -- I don't see it as unreasonable. First impressions are important and managing growth can possibly be helpful in the long run. It's a small business that's going about things differently than other e-liquid companies. Since you're not a fan of its business, what would you do differently?
I already did. I only listed the others because they aren't through employers typically. Thanks though, but I'm not the one who brought up finances in the first place. Aim elsewhere.
If you really believe a purchase today does not change what you can buy tomorrow, you're truly missing something upstairs.
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Whether or not you've been privy to a contract doesn't disprove their strategy. The contract holding their partners to a certain price falls in line with what they are aiming to achieve. They have all rights to such a strategy, I was just pointing out that the excuses they have set out do not add up. Hey, you're entitled to believe what ever you wish. The owners first visits to another forum has shown me what they're after.
Do I want to try this liquid? Nope. But it's not necessarily because of the price--I am just not interested (even if it was cheap as hell). If they were making huge strides in the tobacco arena, and I had proof that it wasn't BS, then I may just try it. I get why people are so up in arms, but damn, this same type of deal happens all the time with nobody really saying much. I mean, c'mon. You've never passed up this:
for this:
They cost about the same, but the mark-up one those golden grease-sticks is off the charts. Value meal?
My point is that we all rationalize and justify, what others may consider, absurd purchases; but that's for the buyer to live with. Do with your wallet what you wish.
for this:
They cost about the same, but the mark-up one those golden grease-sticks is off the charts. Value meal?
My point is that we all rationalize and justify, what others may consider, absurd purchases; but that's for the buyer to live with. Do with your wallet what you wish.
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I have money invested and a matched 401 k with 10 percent of my salary going in too, I still don't sweat 40 bux on something I want. I know I can find other juices for cheaper, and I buy them, I just got some Bobas and GJ, about 8 bottles of HHV, some AiV, and thats in the last week. I dont exclusively vape 5 pawns, I get tired of it like anything else. But its going to always play a part in my rotation. If I vaped a bottle of 5 pawns and nothing else, its STILL gonna last me a good month and a half to 2 months...I think thats part of why its not such a big deal for me, I dont vape all day long like that, too much vaping makes me feel wired up, its why I never drank coffee. I take a 5 or 6 hits and Im done with it for hours, so I dont go through juice like that...Ive been vaping the 5 pawns sampler for about 3 weeks now on and off with some Bandersnatch and I still have 3 sampler vials I havent even touched. Its not a major choice, the juices are too rich to vape incessantly anyway. Its like cheesecake, its awesome, but you get tired of it and you move on for a while. But when I vape it again its great so...there's that
I agree. I do not care to try this, but it isn't a money thing, its the owners arrogance. He can keep what he is peddling. Too many other options.Do I want to try this liquid? Nope. But it's not necessarily because of the price--I am just not interested (even if it was cheap as hell). If they were making huge strides in the tobacco arena, and I had proof that it wasn't BS, then I may just try it. I get why people are so up in arms, but damn, this same type of deal happens all the time with nobody really saying much. I mean, c'mon. You've never passed up this:
for this:
They cost about the same.
You pointed out that you think they don't add up. That's an opinion, but you're stating it as fact. Again, it sounds like you've already made up your mind about the company, so....
Would you kindly provide quotes or PM me a link? I'm curious to read whatever it is that soured you on Five Pawns without trying the products.
I guess that's another place we differ Altaire, as I'm a chain vaper and can easily go through 6ml without even thinking anything of it. I know what you mean though because my mother vaped like you and preferred similar vendors.
What I think is arrogant is going to the movies and having a HUGE company (like Regal Entertainment Group) try and sell me a cardboard tub of salted packing material (popcorn) and a cup of fizzy syrup (soda) for over $10 (not including the price of admission). Who here that is ...... at the 5 Pawns model boycotts movie theaters for that practice? I won't keep up with these analogies for much longer, but the point is that no one here is exempt from doing the EXACT same thing as buyers of 5 Pawns--it just may seem more "normal" when you do it.
I don't go to the movies because it makes no sense. Pay how much extra just to see it sooner? I'll wait. I know what you're saying, it's not just in this market, but all-around. Believe me, us frugal people complain at all inexplicable costs.
Hey, as long as your consistent, I have no problem with your stance.
I see women buy designer clothing and accessories, men doing the same with their toys, most people don't want just a motorcycle, they want a Harley. People brag about their expensive perfume, homes, cars, latest craze in dining, want to be the first to see a newly released movie. It's human nature. I just accept it. Most of the companies providing these things for consumers are arrogant, self-centered, out to make a buck regardless, and smart, don't forget smart. And they brand. They pay big bucks to create brands that become indelible etches on our consumer brains. It's ultimate manipulation. It's sickening. And it works. But, in most cases, you get better quality. You just do. Not always, but usually. What it comes down to is branding, though, and a company deciding who their target audience/clientele is going to be. I'm not Versace's target. I'm not a Mercede's target. At this point, I'm not even a Coach target. But, these company's have their targets and always will. And there's nothing wrong with that. If people want to pay, let them pay. That leaves more juice for me in the middle-class juice waiting area 
I'll even take the occasional Wal-Mart juice when the junk food craving hits.
I've had some crazy yucky juice. I've had some expensive juice that I couldn't appreciate. I just watch it all and know each company will have their base consumers as long as they don't completely mess up.
I'll even take the occasional Wal-Mart juice when the junk food craving hits.I've had some crazy yucky juice. I've had some expensive juice that I couldn't appreciate. I just watch it all and know each company will have their base consumers as long as they don't completely mess up.
AV, that is so French of you! I like you dude. Honestly I don't give a rip what you, they, or anybody wants to vape or what they want to pay for it. So more power to ya. But don't get in my face like I'm on welfare if I think 5p's prices are absurd, because that's just not the case. It's about principle for me. It's good juice yeah but NOT a superior product. And the fact that its aged in oak barrels is just retarted. It's not alcohol and there is no chemical reaction to be had. Just a marketing scheme, one of many. Just sayin.
Anyways I see you've spent a lot of time defending your pov, and I just wanted to apologize if I contributed to your feeling attacked. That wasn't my intention. Just wanted to share a different way of looking at it. But we can agree to disagree.
Fact is, my employer reimburses me up to $500 a year for smoking cessation. (For me and the hubs) I could get all the pawns and write them off. I STILL won't buy from them because imho they are greedy scheming .......s lol. I'd rather support the smaller artisan crafters who aren't looking to achieve these ginormous profit margins. Greed sucks and I won't be party to it if I can avoid it.
So that's where I'm coming from. But you can buy it, vape it, love it, and that's ok too. So no hate here. But if you dis my mac and cheese again that could change.
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I see women buy designer clothing and accessories, men doing the same with their toys, most people don't want just a motorcycle, they want a Harley. People brag about their expensive perfume, homes, cars, latest craze in dining, want to be the first to see a newly released movie. It's human nature. I just accept it. Most of the companies providing these things for consumers are arrogant, self-centered, out to make a buck regardless, and smart, don't forget smart. And they brand. They pay big bucks to create brands that become indelible etches on our consumer brains. It's ultimate manipulation. It's sickening. And it works. But, in most cases, you get better quality. You just do. Not always, but usually. What it comes down to is branding, though, and a company deciding who their target audience/clientele is going to be. I'm not Versace's target. I'm not a Mercede's target. At this point, I'm not even a Coach target. But, these company's have their targets and always will. And there's nothing wrong with that. If people want to pay, let them pay. That leaves more juice for me in the middle-class juice waiting area
I've had some crazy yucky juice. I've had some expensive juice that I couldn't appreciate. I just watch it all and know each company will have their base consumers as long as they don't completely mess up.
Great read, flowerpots.
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