Five Pawns now has a $38 for a 30ml bottle of juice

[lasttango]

There is this new commercial out - for 5 hour energy...

It really pisses me off...

They claim that their product has more (edit: less) caffeine than "starbucks" coffees.

Well, most coffees do have more caffeine than Starbucks coffee... starbucks is arabica coffee which naturally has less caffeine than robusta coffees...

So, their ad sounds impressive by saying more than starbucks... but if they really wanted to impress people, they'd say their coffee has more caffeine than Maxwell House or Folgers...

Robusta coffee beans are the beans grown in masse - in fields, they are harvested by machines... they have an earthier, bolder, flavor... not better or worse, just different. They have MORE caffeine.

while most varietals/arabica beans (kenya aa, Sumatran, jamaican blue mountain, Ethiopian etc... ) are grown at higher altitudes and have higher acid content and less caffeine. (this acid is good, it contributes to flavor and distinguishes the bean's characteristics) these are the beans that need to be picked by hand... because machinery doesn't work so well on mountain tops. These have less caffeine.

My point is that this commercial really has no value... when reading between the lines, I understand that 5 hour energy marketing is either stupid or trying to mislead me...

My larger e-cig/5 pawns point is... what the heck does aging ejuice in oak barrels do? When I think about it, it sounds a little gross.
Aging whiskey, tobacco, cheese, wine... I get... but I do need someone to educate me here... I do understand the value of steeping, though over-steeped juice is what I throw in the garbage...


Edit, the commercial actually claims less caffeine - but my point remains the same... the fact that they namedrop starbucks - the insult to my intelligence is that I am supposed to believe that starbucks is superior and that it is packed with caffeine.

 

[BennyBlanco]

If you have to question price before you can answer whether or not you want something, youre hurting. I'm not saying you. But you can't say i have the money its not an issue then say 38 dollars is out of the question for good juice. Not that its not worth 38 to those that want it, its just random hating for people who don't find the price to be a brick wall keeping you out. Look at it like this, if there were suckers that were 3 for a dime, or one you really liked for a quarter, would you not buy the one you liked? Or would you say oh, the good one has the same sugar and flavor as the dime ones, I'll buy th e crap ones? No, because money wouldn't be an issue.

your logic in this whole thread is hilarious to me. either buy $38 e-juice or you're poor and work at mcdonalds. lmfao.

i really doubt anyone here couldn't afford to spend $38. . If you wanna buy it, go ahead, enjoy it. Youre paying more than double what most everyone else is for the same VG. Nic, PG, and food flavorings. Things like cars, fine wine, electronics, jewelry, etc actually have inherent value. This is an online (and B/M i guess) store with practically zero overhead charging almost double the industry standard. Speaking of suckers, I hear there's one born every minute.

 

[Nukified]

I agree with Altaire, I would rather have one bottle of 5 Pawns than 3-4 bottles of MT Baker or top vapor

Again, this is all about taste preference. I found Five Pawns disgusting and unvapable. It truly tasted like the ingredients were stale. Meanwhile, I can vape MBV all day regardless of their cheap flavors. They just have a more fresh, smooth, and accurate taste to me. Obviously, you don't feel you can say the same. That's alright. We have different taste buds.

Some of those boutique shops try to sell off Five Pawns as the top shelf liquid over the likes of Midas, The Standard, and Jameson's. I can't agree with them, but if you liked Five Pawns, then it may be the case. I'm sure that $150 will find you something you like and consider top quality over the rest, but it may not be from 5P, at least from my experience.

Yes, my date is way off. I started on Dec 25, 2010 as a Christmas gift to myself. I wasn't even going to register until there was a contest that sparked my interest recently.

 

[Altaire Versailles]

You're dumb because what makes their juice "premium" is that they waste money on fancy labels and cardboard tubes to pack it in (and marketing) There are only a few flavoring companies that all vendors use, they all buy nicotine from the same place, they all use the same glycerol and PG. So, what makes it premium? Hype and packaging. I can afford it, so that's not my problem. I could find you plenty of 15 dollar eliquids that taste far better and are more available than this five pawns juice. Or you can just assume I hate it because I just too po' to buy it!

You can't compare it to a fancy car vs a jalopy, or powdered mac and cheese vs. lobster mac and cheese. They're using the same ingredients as everyone else while fancier cars are better engineered and have less plastic in them. I doubt that there is something in 5 pawns that makes it so "premium."

The mod argument is dumb and not comparable. Chinese aluminum garbage produced in sweatshops vs stainless and brass made in a small shop. This is where the cost differences come from. Eliquid markups are priced that way because they know there are people out there that will always equate more expensive with "better" when it's actually the same crap that everyone else is selling.

I disagree that theyre using the same stuff. Its not the same. its not just the flavor thats different. Its the quality. Its not the same stuff as MBV uses I GUARANTEE you that. You really think theyre using the same ingredients and processes that MBV is using and just jack up the price 1500 percent? I mean I know for a fact what goes in those 5 pawn bottles isnt worth 28 or 38 dollars but I know its better than MBV because I cant even get through 1 ml of ANY of MBV's juices.

WERE asking 2 different questions here. Only question I have is whether or not Im willing to pay that amount to vape thier juice. The answer's yes. i dont care that I can get 10 bottles of MBV for that price, I wouldnt care if I could get 100 bottles of MBV for 38 dollars, i want 5 pawns and Im not vaping MBV or anything like it, I dont care how much of a deal it is.

 

[Altaire Versailles]

Well yeah I question price.. I find the best deal on everything so I can have money for the stuff I really want like my trip to Ireland in the fall.

So whatever if you want to act all bling bling money ain't a thang, I'm sorry but I don't think that's smart for anyone in the 99%. Because until you are at that 1% level money IS a thing, and if you are careful with it you can have a really nice life.

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Im not acting bling bling lol Im saying if being able to buy a 38 dollar bottle of juice is bling bling, then


LIFE: YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG

 

[SharonMM]

Nuh uh you are!

Show me your portfolio and then you can tell me how I'm doing it wrong.

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[BennyBlanco]

I actually kind of agree with what the guy is saying. MBV to me is unvapable garbage, if that was the only e-juice on the market I would quit altogether. Other vendors like AVE. GLV, etc have good prices and great juice. I got a free sample from 5 pawns on reddit and wasn't impressed with anything other than the packaging. If you are into packaging this is the juice for you. Otherwise I would say AVE and GLV's actual juice quality blows these guys out of the water and is half the price. I can't support this type of buffoonery myself, a marketing flack using words like "INVITE ONLY"..... "EXCLUSIVE".... "OAK BARREL AGED" talking about some e-juice. It's a bunch of superfluous pageantry that makes people think they're getting something more than what they are IMO.

 

[SharonMM]

^^^^ EXACTLY

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[shatner]

People that are willing to pay for it are dumb. The markup on juice is already ridiculous. Sorry. Dumb.

You're dumb because what makes their juice "premium" is that they waste money on fancy labels and cardboard tubes to pack it in (and marketing) There are only a few flavoring companies that all vendors use, they all buy nicotine from the same place, they all use the same glycerol and PG. So, what makes it premium? Hype and packaging. I can afford it, so that's not my problem. I could find you plenty of 15 dollar eliquids that taste far better and are more available than this five pawns juice. Or you can just assume I hate it because I just too po' to buy it!

You can't compare it to a fancy car vs a jalopy, or powdered mac and cheese vs. lobster mac and cheese. They're using the same ingredients as everyone else while fancier cars are better engineered and have less plastic in them. I doubt that there is something in 5 pawns that makes it so "premium."

The mod argument is dumb and not comparable. Chinese aluminum garbage produced in sweatshops vs stainless and brass made in a small shop. This is where the cost differences come from. Eliquid markups are priced that way because they know there are people out there that will always equate more expensive with "better" when it's actually the same crap that everyone else is selling.

 

[ckone180]

There is this new commercial out - for 5 hour energy...

It really pisses me off...

They claim that their product has more caffeine than "starbucks" coffees.

Well, most coffees do have more caffeine than Starbucks coffee... starbucks is arabica coffee which naturally has less caffeine than robusta coffees...



My point is that this commercial really has no value... when reading between the lines, I understand that 5 hour energy marketing is either stupid or trying to mislead me...

Um, I believe the commercial states LESS caffeine. The point is that some people may be concerned with the amount in 5 hr, but many people consume way more than that in coffee drinks.

I agree with aging in oak barrels being a marketing scheme. And nasty at that.

 

[JmanEspresso]

Honestly though,

Aging the juice in oak barrels is something new and unique. They may be onto something, or they may be totally off base.


The only way to find out, is to buy some and try it. Im definitely down. In fact I was just checking out their other flavors, and for the most part, I think Id like them. I think Im going to get me some of their juices and try them out.

Ive definitely ...... away enough money on stupid, useless stuff, that 40 bucks for a 30ml bottle of ejuice sounds smart lol

 

[CookingWithGuns]

While I have nothing against then charging this, thinking further about it, I think this is actually good thing for the industry. Every successful industry, whether automobiles, Mac and cheese, or whatever, has a high end part of the market. From all accounts, even though done by a marketer, this deserves the high end status it is going for.

On top of that, surprised any provari owners would say it is overpriced

 

[hyperfluous]

no way im spending 38 dollars on 30ml when I can make my own for under 3 dollars unless the vapor I exhale comes out like a rainbow

 

[xpl0it]

People that are willing to pay for it are dumb. The markup on juice is already ridiculous. Sorry. Dumb.

Those of us that are willing to pay that amount aren't financially concerned. I spend 2-3x that that on a single cigar. Is it expensive yes. Do I care if the man/woman next to me can afford it? Absolutely not...

 

[CookingWithGuns]

no way im spending 38 dollars on 30ml when I can make my own for under 3 dollars unless the vapor I exhale comes out like a rainbow

Go ahead and try to match their juice at 3 dollars, you'll wind up spending hundreds and fail. From my experience in the development and retail side of business, I'm confident they are spending more than ten cents a ml not even including labour. I'm guessing they are are spending 40-50 cents per ml at least

 

[Altaire Versailles]

Nuh uh you are!

Show me your portfolio and then you can tell me how I'm doing it wrong.

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Oh I work at Mcdonalds, end of resume. But I can throw fireballs...

 

[Altaire Versailles]

I actually kind of agree with what the guy is saying. MBV to me is unvapable garbage, if that was the only e-juice on the market I would quit altogether. Other vendors like AVE. GLV, etc have good prices and great juice. I got a free sample from 5 pawns on reddit and wasn't impressed with anything other than the packaging. If you are into packaging this is the juice for you. Otherwise I would say AVE and GLV's actual juice quality blows these guys out of the water and is half the price. I can't support this type of buffoonery myself, a marketing flack using words like "INVITE ONLY"..... "EXCLUSIVE".... "OAK BARREL AGED" talking about some e-juice. It's a bunch of superfluous pageantry that makes people think they're getting something more than what they are IMO.

Agreed. Again, only thing that matters is if you like it enough to pay what thier asking, whether its 5 dollars or 50 dollars...if you buy it, its obviously a good enough deal. If its too much dont buy it, whats the big deal?? And I didnt say either you buy 5 pawns or you work at Mcdonalds stop lying!! lol

 

[retired1]

38 bucks for 30ml? That's nothing!

The Best Juice in the World

 

[CookingWithGuns]

38 bucks for 30ml? That's nothing!

The Best Juice in the World

Live a rich person to order then sue for it not being a vapable juice

 

[Uncle Willie]

I'm working on a new line of liquid that has 24 K gold micro flakes floating in PG / VG that was distilled from ingredients only found in the Amazon in a one square foot area .. and nicotine that is taken from a secret stash that was kept hidden in the Arc of the Covenant .. flavored by a group of Umpa Lumpas that needed a side job .. it will come in a diamond encrusted bottle and there will only be one ..