since we are on the topic of flavor.... why were the Violet candies even invented???
Flavor Chasing...What is the goal?
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No because raw juice tastes like crap.
Back on 306/510 attys at 3.7v, our equipment was so bad at vaporizing juice. Bad vaping days were the norm. Endless days of tasteless steam, but when it was good it was good. I made it through 4+ years of that and it kept me off cigarettes. Sub ohming is everything I ever wanted vaping to be. I get big, saturated flavor, and I rarely have a bad vaping day now. More flavor, more nicotine, more satisfying experience.
I know why we are using those terms but it's wrong and we should correct it that way we don't look stupid to non vapors. If I told a non vapor I'm a flavor chaser they'd be like why don't you just buy something that produces good flavor.
If one is chasing something, they haven't caught it. I have the ideal set up and e-liquids for me. No chasing involved. I like flavor and throat hit. Don't care about clouds, so I'm a flavor vaper...
I agree that chasing is a bad way to put it. A cloud chaser is always looking for more! more! more! Flavor vapers just want the best flavor for them.
Another analogy: Coffee. I like my coffee quite hot. My wife prefers it to be a bit cooler. The coffee is the same once brewed; no magical reactions have occurred. But if my coffee cools off too much, it just tastes like crap to me. Interestingly, I also like a warmer vape. If I use TC, I always tend to be in the 500C+ range. When I try cooler, the vape tends to me muted in flavor for me.
Flavor perception is very subjective. If a flavor vaper is chasing anything, it's finding the gear that delivers the perfect flavor every time for them. i used to think the Nautilus was the absolute nuts when it came to flavor. Then I bought an Atlantis and wow! Then I tried the Subbox mini kit and changed my mind. Then I tried TC with a Delta II and found my current sweet spot. Who knows what will come down the pike tomorrow?
Another analogy: Coffee. I like my coffee quite hot. My wife prefers it to be a bit cooler. The coffee is the same once brewed; no magical reactions have occurred. But if my coffee cools off too much, it just tastes like crap to me. Interestingly, I also like a warmer vape. If I use TC, I always tend to be in the 500C+ range. When I try cooler, the vape tends to me muted in flavor for me.
Flavor perception is very subjective. If a flavor vaper is chasing anything, it's finding the gear that delivers the perfect flavor every time for them. i used to think the Nautilus was the absolute nuts when it came to flavor. Then I bought an Atlantis and wow! Then I tried the Subbox mini kit and changed my mind. Then I tried TC with a Delta II and found my current sweet spot. Who knows what will come down the pike tomorrow?
What you want is a flavor that tastes good TO YOU, that you can taste all day or for some part of the day or occasionally... YOU choose. At first I had to have "virginia" because it tasted like the cigarettes I smoked. When I started vaping Blueberry Muffin, my favorite-est snack EVER, suddenly Virginia tasted like crap and I couldn't believe I'd spent 39 yrs inhaling something even worse! Then I *made* some Strawberry & Cream that's the best ejuice I've ever tasted, so I've vaped that every day, most all day, for about 8 months now. I expect at some point I'll make something else that I really love, and then I'll vape that like it's my religion.
Just find something that tastes so good to you, you're motivated to vape it, just for the taste -- that's what the ANTZ imbeciles don't take into account, with all their yammering about "flavors". When you stop smoking because vaping is just BETTER, it's much easier than trying to "quit" something you really like.
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Pretty sure those cloud chasers are blowing clouds...but that wont stop them from trying to blow bigger and bigger ones
Because we may turn people off to vaping, and they will continue to smoke. Very bad for them.
It's relative, you are looking for a way to maximize the notes in a flavor that appeal the most to you. The flavors will taste very different as you change the wattage/temperature so you are looking or the setting that you like the most. It's like a steak, some like it rare, some like it well, some like it on the BBQ some like it on the broiler. You have to find the wattage and temp you like as well as the atomizer/mod combo you like and it is different for everyone.
So we have two main types of vapers, people that like to maximize the vapor production and people that like to maximize the flavor production....So we have flavor chasers and cloud chasers, I see nothing wrong with that terminology.
This is all to complicated to me. The only "flavor chasing" I ever did was to find a flavor that kept me off cigarettes. After a long chase and a couple dozen different flavors, it is over. Unflavored or menthol. And the one menthol cigarette I ever smoked tasted horrible. Go figure...
Tell you what though...I sure save a heck of a lot of money on juice!
Tell you what though...I sure save a heck of a lot of money on juice!
I see it as a way for those of us who are more deeply involved in vaping to talk to each other. I use a pretty limited more smoker friendly vocabulary with those just quitting smoking and trying to start vaping. I don't call a new vaper a tootle puffer or really use any words that aren't familiar to them from smoking beyond explaining the basics of how it all works.
these are just forum terms really. A tootle puffer or cloud chaser is not something your average beginner on the street has any familiarity with.
Kind of like how wine enthusiasts talk about wine vs. casual appreciators. "i like a lightly oaked and buttery oregon chardonnay with a crisp citrus nose and a slight floral base" vs "i mostly like red wines"
noobies have no idea what you are talking about, so keep it casual and fun. If they wish to be educated, using slang is probably not the way to do it.
That is the real chase, finding a flavor you like. You can try every setting, tank and mod with a bad flavor and it will still be bad.
Wine is a perfect example. I rarely drink it and went wine tasting a few weeks ago with some friends. People are saying what 80 notes they taste and my range of terminology was like this one tastes less bitter.
I only use one juice that I make.
But its amazing how many taste experiences I can get out of that one juice.
And I love them all!!!!
So many improvements in gear these days. Things I swore were true months ago are false today. Months?? Heck weeks or even days.
RDA's were my flavor babies for awhile with RTA's for out and about. With the newer RTA's flavor is the best and RDA's are just for cloudz now. Then along comes TC and the flavor is better then most others stuff except one............
The Chutulu. Ain't quit gotten to the bottom of just why but that RTA with a certain build and a certain wattage is just heaven. And a certain drip tip, ceramic only for me please.
And again all with the same juice.
Something that bring out flavor for me.......
Low as possible PG.
Low as reasonable for an addict nic, generally 6mg
Low heat which for me means between 30-50 warts.
Lots of airflow.
Clousz. My mind is still teachable. Its learned that a side effect of great flavor is a decent sized cloud. I rarely blow cloudz for the sake of cloudz (I do it sometimes) but if I don't see some cloud action I know I'm getting poor flavor.
But its amazing how many taste experiences I can get out of that one juice.
And I love them all!!!!
So many improvements in gear these days. Things I swore were true months ago are false today. Months?? Heck weeks or even days.
RDA's were my flavor babies for awhile with RTA's for out and about. With the newer RTA's flavor is the best and RDA's are just for cloudz now. Then along comes TC and the flavor is better then most others stuff except one............
The Chutulu. Ain't quit gotten to the bottom of just why but that RTA with a certain build and a certain wattage is just heaven. And a certain drip tip, ceramic only for me please.
And again all with the same juice.
Something that bring out flavor for me.......
Low as possible PG.
Low as reasonable for an addict nic, generally 6mg
Low heat which for me means between 30-50 warts.
Lots of airflow.
Clousz. My mind is still teachable. Its learned that a side effect of great flavor is a decent sized cloud. I rarely blow cloudz for the sake of cloudz (I do it sometimes) but if I don't see some cloud action I know I'm getting poor flavor.
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