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Do any of you have FA Anise?

If so PM me please, I'd like to chat with you a little bit about possibly getting a small sample while I wait on sourcing a 30ml bottle (And the funds for it :D)

I know many might not like it, so I'm hoping someone has some sitting around they think might never get used, that would be great because then we could for sure work something out!
 

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Do any of you have FA Anise?

If so PM me please, I'd like to chat with you a little bit about possibly getting a small sample while I wait on sourcing a 30ml bottle (And the funds for it :D)

I know many might not like it, so I'm hoping someone has some sitting around they think might never get used, that would be great because then we could for sure work something out!

Its very weak IMO. I found using Anise Star oil is just as good but its very concentrated. 3 drops per 10 ml was good for me.
 

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Thanks ToweKnee! :thumb:

I have heard it's weak, but wasn't sure about using plain oil itself, so I wanted to try the FA first so I'd know what flavor aspect I should look for if I do try a few oils.

So you mean something like this is OK to use in vapes? Not worrying about the "Is oil OK" aspect of it, I just mean flavor-wise, this or something like this is what you meant right?
Star Anise 100 Pure Essential Oil You Pick Size | eBay

*whoops, guess I should try to find "food grade" right?! Or wait, wouldn't that be the same as Lorann's then, or should I keep looking in the direction I was going?
 
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You probably already figured this out but the DIY juice recommends higher percentages than the Flavorswest . DIY juice is for DIYers but Flavorswest is for anybody. I believe they diluted them to make them user friendly for DIY. It is a great way to see if you like a flavor too because you won't get stuck with the large size which also goes farther because it's mixed at lower percentages. I guess it costs money to dilute everything but it's still a convenience I like. I just don't make more juice than I can vape in a reasonable period of time. Does ths make sense?

So far I bought my most recent purchases at diyjuice.com directly from the manufacturer but in the sampling size. I do not think anything is sold diluted its just the normal markup of a 2nd party selling their flavors---thats why it costs more per amount than the larger sizes direct. Hopefully someone else will comment as I know there are some people who have mentioned buying the larger sizes right from Flavorwest.com and I intend to do that on some of my favorites.
 

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Ahhhhhh. So the low percentages I read about came from a DIYer who likes mild vape and I got mislead into believing the wrong thing because my DIY Juice bottles nicely state the percentages like use at 5 % and my DIY poster was recommending 1% and that was for stuff from Flavorswest site. THANKS. I was going to be sticking with DIY Juice anyway for my small operation. I did notice their listings have other flavors so to be sure it's Flavorswest it has those flavors marked as such. Wonder who all the other flavors are! Ha ha. No not really.
 

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Well you know it's all "To Taste" anyway, and that's always different for everybody, so not sure how they (flavor vendors) come up with use 5% or 10-20%, ect. I guess they have to say something, like Wizard Labs says 5% for every TFA I think :D

For FW, I've seen 1-2% ranges mentioned by users, and others saying 10-15% for the same flavors, so I think it just is up to each user to test and find what they like same as most other flavorings. Of course, they'll always be a few flavors that a super low % might be a good starting point, so if you see someone mention a low % then it might be good to start in that range.

If I see someone mention they like xxx at 2% and it's not an SC flavor, I'll usually make a 2% and a 5% for starters just to be on the safe side, and then if both of those are good but weak to me I'll try 10% and see if it's too much, if it's not I'll play with it like any other and go "To Taste". :)

Not sure what's up with the ones at DIYJuice that don't say FlavorWest, I assumed the same thing you mentioned, they aren't FlavorWest flavors, that or maybe a combo of their flavoring and another brand too. I think some of the combo's are 100% Flavor West, but not all, but that's just my assumption based on the names of the flavors in the combo's.

I just got my first order of five flavors from them, love Orange and have only tested it at 2% so far as I figured it was initially oil based so I started low. A few others I tested starting at 5% and they're WAY to weak for me (Butter mint, Snowflake, Teaberry). Teaberry is actually pretty decent at 5%, but the others are basically bland/no taste there. So I'm thinking Teaberry maybe great at 7-10% or more, and the other two 10%+ I imagine. I'm going to test those two at less than 5% just to be sure it's not too much flavor killing the taste, but I'm doubting that.

Still need to test Creamy Nut Delight, but it's smells AWESOME!!!! And I know one vendor that for sure uses it for one of their most famous creations, and it might just be that flavoring alone too, it's a killer juice too so it would be great if it's just that.

I like their flavors so far, and already have my next cart there getting filled up, can't wait to get in another order! :thumbs:

*Forgot to mention, that's odd about your DIYJuice bottles, none of mine state percentages to use at? I know the site says that generic "Usage Rate .25 to .50 Food Item", and I think Flavor West says says the same thing too. Maybe he just ran out of certain labels the day he bottled mine? :) The labels on mine are kind of plain, DIYJuice logo and flavor name, then size is all that's on my labels.

I guess it doesn't matter anyway, they are all the same as long as you buy direct at one of his stores. And I don't think their "Super Concentrated" like it mentions on the Flavor West site, at least not in the "Super Concentrated Use at 1-2%" like we are used to hearing for the Chinese flavorings like VZ sells.
 
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Yes true. Flavor Art is the only one I know that seems to have general consensus that percentages should stay quite low like 1 or 2%. Frankly I would avoid that kind of flavoring! So. I haven't ride my order yet. Only two new flavors I got were Sweet Cream and Lime. I bought Coconut, Key Lime, Bavarian Cream, and Ginger. I have those from two other places. Natures Flavors and The Flavors Apprentice- except ginger. I'm going to do a taste testing mixing day here before too long. I run hot and cold being able to taste very much. No fun. Even tonight I got frustrated and tried a saline nasal wash as recommended for allergy and other stuff by a friend but it lasted a while then back to dull....plus I'm still up tonight coughing...think I got a bug. So it goes. Either I have a bunch of juice to vape up and I'm liking it or I can't really taste a whole lot and it doesn't matter or I'm just not not in the right mood. When I'm in the right mood it usually just falls together too. That's very supporting! But I'm pretty much zeroing in on DIY Juice for my flavors now because the prices smaller sizes thing.
 

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Vaping Zone super concentrates are like that, 1-2% or less, and believe there's another line of "Super Concentrates" like that too, where a drop too much can kill a juice. Not sure if you noticed my edit up there, but I commented about super concentrates probably while you were replying.

So which FW flavors do you have? I need to get some Lime from somewhere, and graham cracker, because I really want to try my hand at a Key Lime pie juice. If you have the FW lime, be sure to post back about it after you've tried it a few ways.

Sorry to hear about the flavor dullness, sounds like you might be getting a cold!! If it's not that, maybe not enough water? When I can taste I usually vape stuff I know doesn't taste all that great, for the rest of the day, that way I know I'm not wasting good tasting juice. Plus, that way you can get rid of stuff you have laying around taking up bottle space :)

I'm DIY 99% of the time, unless I'm testing something for a review, or vaping up a contest win juice. There's only one pre-mixed juice I buy from time to time, and I'm working to solve that issue now :D
 

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Ha Ha . If I was your employ you'd send me home for the day! It was Vaping Zone. I got their Gourmet super concentrate Mango and their regular mango and a salt water taffy. Right. DIY Juice has no percentage recommendation.
Vaping Zone, Chinese ok. Didn't know. just went there looking for Mango. So far don't like it...the SC VZ gourmet one. It's steeping. Very high note. Do you happen to know a nice mellow but rich Mango? I'm a newbie you know, with defective olfactory but if it hits me great ill let know re Lime. So what's this juice you are working on no longer buying Pre mixed?
I never found any but 3 from Ethan at Vapelicious and we are divorced now! Why I have all those Lime stuff. Lime Ventiane. It has Lime, ginger and lychee.
 

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Ahh, no worries, I'd let you stay for the rest of the day :) There's so many brands and abbreviations out there, I have to go double check or look something up often too! :D

Their regular flavors (not SC or Gourmet) are TFA/TPA, the regular SC ones are Chinese, and the Gourmet are from Bickford I believe not sure where they are located.

So your DIYJuice bottles don't have a % recommendation on them? If so, cool to know, I just assumed maybe I got different labels that day for some reason. There site says what I quoted above though, the DIYJuice site anyway, I didn't go look at the Flavor West site, but if I remember right it says the same thing there too, but it also says "Ultra Concentrated" on that site too I think.

Not sure on the mango's, that flavor is on my "buy next list" :) For the juice you already mixed, how much did you use, and how did you measure that? If drops, that might be the reason, too much maybe? If you used a syringe, then it still might be too much if you used more than 1-2%. I see some have said those Gourmet are even stronger than the regular SC flavors.

I'll shoot you a PM about the juice I'm going to try to make similar, I'd buy it no problem if I could afford to keep up such a habit like that, but it's good and I'm always short on cash, so I've got to try and DIY something similar :)

Don't think I've tried any Vapelicious juices. Not sure I've even heard much about them either, maybe they don't have many contest here so I see the name less often :D
 

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Well don't bother with Vapelicious IMO unless you want to wait three months. After two months I instigated a chargeback. Why I said were divorced.
I start out with syringes and then in the end when I'm close I just dropss and stuff. I'm slap dash, a Tru vapor artists nightmare no doubt but its just me. The way I am. I don't mind making mistakes it accelerates learning. Right now I'm vaping a maple pecan flavor added bavarian cream, malty and a little coconut. It's soft flavor and will let the rest steep before I add more of some flavor in it. I am usually using a category of flavors To keep it simple. Fruits, creams, candy, Teas, spices. I have one bakery so far don't like cake batter and a waffle. no chocolate, no mint (yet), no coffee (yet) no savory, no menthol, no other bakery, no tobAcco. I'll branch out later. Will be a newbie a long time. I vape what I make. I usually end up too strong because I add stuff untill I'm happy at the end so I just dilute
 

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hummm....

FA Thyme was a total bust. So far the worst flavor I have tried. When you blow out a soy wax votive candle it gives off a very distinctive smell, and not a pleasant smell, that smell is captured perfectly in FlavourArt's Thyme. As a bonus, the vapor has a nasty/gritty mouth-feel, so Double Plus Good! I will let it age a while and see what happens.

On the other hand, FA's Cardamom is probably the most accurate artificial flavor I have ever had. Now to find a good Black Tea. Or maybe, add some menthol, orange blossom & strawberry for the prefect replication of the scent of Southern California's Santa Rosa Valley on a summer night...
 

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hummm....

FA Thyme was a total bust. So far the worst flavor I have tried. When you blow out a soy wax votive candle it gives off a very distinctive smell, and not a pleasant smell, that smell is captured perfectly in FlavourArt's Thyme. As a bonus, the vapor has a nasty/gritty mouth-feel, so Double Plus Good! I will let it age a while and see what happens.

On the other hand, FA's Cardamom is probably the most accurate artificial flavor I have ever had. Now to find a good Black Tea. Or maybe, add some menthol, orange blossom & strawberry for the prefect replication of the scent of Southern California's Santa Rosa Valley on a summer night...
You make me glad that I skipped the Thyme and purchased Cardamom. I haven't tried mixing it at all yet. What percentage did you use for the Cardamom? Adding menthol and sweetener might give you something similar to the sugar-coated cardamom seeds that some Indian restaurants give you at the end of a meal.
 

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You make me glad that I skipped the Thyme and purchased Cardamom. I haven't tried mixing it at all yet. What percentage did you use for the Cardamom? Adding menthol and sweetener might give you something similar to the sugar-coated cardamom seeds that some Indian restaurants give you at the end of a meal.

I did the Cardamom at 8% for a single flavor sample, for blending I'd probably go 2% or 4%. Candy coated Cardamom sounds interesting, I've had candied fennel seeds before. I'm thinking the menthol in it would make an eucalyptus flavor.
 

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I did the Cardamom at 8% for a single flavor sample, for blending I'd probably go 2% or 4%. Candy coated Cardamom sounds interesting, I've had candied fennel seeds before. I'm thinking the menthol in it would make an eucalyptus flavor.
Thanks, I'm not looking for eucalyptus, lol. I think I need to go mix up some Cardamom just to check it out. I've been a bit slack getting some DIY done lately, other things get in the way.
 

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Sorry guys im still around just been very busy. One of my best friends passed and another ended up in the hospital. Plus work is getting crazy and were adding another account very soon. Been really enjoying the MVJ Rogue Ry4 though with my IGO. Now I just need some 28 g Kanthol to play with lol. I got tons of 30 that's for sure.
 

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Sorry guys im still around just been very busy. One of my best friends passed and another ended up in the hospital. Plus work is getting crazy and were adding another account very soon. Been really enjoying the MVJ Rogue Ry4 though with my IGO. Now I just need some 28 g Kanthol to play with lol. I got tons of 30 that's for sure.
Sorry to hear about this ToweKnee, that's a rough bit of luck.
 
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