Flying with my Bloog MaxxFusion (“Quite Literally”)

[Frick]

But without that BS about the vapor being 99% water vapor.

Do you care to elaborate? I've heard that stated before, and I've been telling people it's mostly water vapor. It certainly doesn't seem to disperse like water vapor, but I've seen "cold vaporizer" units that produce similar vapor to an e-cig on only water.

 

[slim66]

well if you remember that movie we come in peace, or something like that the alien kept saying that yet he killed everyone.

I know, what's up with that? Sounds like a great movie for MST3000.

 

[redempti0N]

ahhh MST3000 good times

 

[slim66]

ahhh MST3000 good times

weren't they though....the worser, the better

 

[jayvap33]

Yes, we're going to have cards printed to include in your orders, and they will have our company info on one side and vaping info on the other. But without that BS about the vapor being 99% water vapor.

Do you care to elaborate? I've heard that stated before, and I've been telling people it's mostly water vapor. It certainly doesn't seem to disperse like water vapor, but I've seen "cold vaporizer" units that produce similar vapor to an e-cig on only water.

My understanding is that the vapor is mostly Propylene Glycol (PG) or Vegetable Glycerine (VG).

 

[MichelleDen]

well if you remember that movie we come in peace, or something like that the alien kept saying that yet he killed everyone.

Exactly what I was thinking of when I wrote it. The one where the old grandmas music makes they're heads explode..

 

[jayvap33]

Exactly what I was thinking of when I wrote it. The one where the old grandmas music makes they're heads explode..

Mars Attacks! - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116996/

 

[leaford]

My understanding is that the vapor is mostly Propylene Glycol (PG) or Vegetable Glycerine (VG).

Precisely. The water content is pretty low.

 

[pmos69]

Well, I think you are referring to the e-liquid content, right?
Because the actual vapor content is in fact mostly water, from what I've read: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9160-analysis-electronic-cigarette-vapor.html

 

[jayvap33]

Technical stuff and very confusing. The findings showing 66% water in the vapor were from an alcohol-containing e-juice, which is non standard and will react very different when vaped. I looked at all the PDFs and one chart shows 99% PG in the vapor. We need more cohesive consistent test data from e-juice mfrs.

 

[pmos69]

99% PG seems extremely unlikely to me, because of the air you inhale and exhale.
That would mean the air you breath would be composed mostly of PG.

 

[starsong]

My understanding is that the vapor is mostly Propylene Glycol (PG) or Vegetable Glycerine (VG).

If you are trying to quickly explain to someone why it isn't really cigarette smoke they are seeing, I think it easier for them to wrap their heads around "water vapor" than "propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine".

 

[jayvap33]

If you are trying to quickly explain to someone why it isn't really cigarette smoke they are seeing, I think it easier for them to wrap their heads around "water vapor" than "propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine".

I agree, if indeed that is safe to say, but we don't want to be misleading...

 

[leaford]

Well, I think you are referring to the e-liquid content, right?
Because the actual vapor content is in fact mostly water, from what I've read: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9160-analysis-electronic-cigarette-vapor.html

Think about that, pmos; if the liquid being vaporized is 80-90% PG with 5-10% distilled water, but the vapor produced is 66% water and 3% PG, then there are two big questions. Where is the extra water coming from, and where is all the PG going? Or, maybe it's a flawed test with unreliable results.

The IVAQS reasearch will hopefully give us reliable data, but there's no reason to expect the overall compisition of the vapor will be substantially different than the liquid; ie, mostly PG and/or VG with only a small percentage of water.

 

[MichelleDen]

maybe the water comming out is from the body... PG dries you out somethin awfull...

 

[leaford]

If you are trying to quickly explain to someone why it isn't really cigarette smoke they are seeing, I think it easier for them to wrap their heads around "water vapor" than "propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine".

That's the challenge, describing it in a way that is simultaneously accurate, understandable, reassuring, and will fit on the back of a card. I'm not willing to sacrifice accuracy for the other goals.

 

[leaford]

maybe the water comming out is from the body... PG dries you out somethin awfull...

No, the tests referred to were uninhaled vapor.

 

[jayvap33]

Think about that, pmos; if the liquid being vaporized is 80-90% PG with 5-10% distilled water, but the vapor produced is 66% water and 3% PG, then there are two big questions. Where is the extra water coming from, and where is all the PG going? Or, maybe it's a flawed test with unreliable results.

The IVAQS reasearch will hopefully give us reliable data, but there's no reason to expect the overall compisition of the vapor will be substantially different than the liquid; ie, mostly PG and/or VG with only a small percentage of water.

Yes. AND I would like to know the composition of exhaled vapor too to get some data on the second-hand vapor...

 

[redempti0N]

some people wouldnt get it no matter how its explained. I was asked over the weekend "How do you get it to blow out smoke?" I replied that it was not smoke but vapor. their reply was "What do you mean Vapor?"

 

[MichelleDen]

Its a steam stick!!