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you haven't to feel frustrated when you don't win it. it's very difficult to get it, as there must be many people trying.
i tried almost every chance, only got success about 1 of 20 times, and i can feel very lucky for that ratio (my inet connection has might something to do with it)
Is it really worth it? What kinds of things do they put up and how much can you save?
 
OK...so I've been trying to get my hands on an EHPro Pontus for a few weeks now with no luck. To my surprise I see that FC has put up a clone of the Big Dripper, which is very similar and works in the same way( push down the drip tip to drip juice onto your coils from the tank). Anyone have any experience with it? Got my finger on the trigger just looking for a little feedback first....................
$15.18 Big Dripper Style Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - Silver
 

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i've just realized that a zna 30 (i guess wotofo one, although not specified in the description) has been already in china warehouse since some weeks ago.
i didn't pay attention because was a bit busy these weeks.
it's sku 20352 ($73.59 ZNA 30 Style VV/VW mod - Silver), and i guess that it's the wotofo one, as it was the only kind of zna sold in fc till today; so it has the sxa300 chip probably, but you can read a review of this item saying it has the hana chip (dna30) instead of the yihi one.
can anybody ensure it has the yihi sxa300 chip?

edit: also, when i add it to the basket, discount coupons doesn't affect it. maybe discount is not possible with this item, or it might be a bug.

Nikki, have you tested the output voltage step down in the zna robbot? too low wattage message?

Yes, the Wotofo ZNA was in China an entire month before it came to the US warehouse. When I read your post the other day I took it to mean that you thought it was out of stock in China, but its not. Yes, the Wotofo is confirmed with the Yihi sxa300 chip.

The Robbot ZNA uses the Cloupor V3 which behaves just like the Evolv DNA chip, so no, it is does not step down voltage, and you will get a too low wattage setting where applicable. The one advantage that I find with the Cloupor chip, both the V2 and V3 is that the boost circuitry is better than the Yihi chip, because performance doesn't lag on a low battery. With the Yihi chip I can feel when the battery is low well before "low battery" cut off happens because the performance lags.
 

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OK...so I've been trying to get my hands on an EHPro Pontus for a few weeks now with no luck. To my surprise I see that FC has put up a clone of the Big Dripper, which is very similar and works in the same way( push down the drip tip to drip juice onto your coils from the tank). Anyone have any experience with it? Got my finger on the trigger just looking for a little feedback first....................
$15.18 Big Dripper Style Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - Silver

They just released that so I doubt anyone has received it yet .. Don't get it if you like to run single coil configurations, which this Big Dripper clone is not set up for. But the 4 holes that it does have are in the right place, and otherwise looks just like the original.
 

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i've just realized that a zna 30 (i guess wotofo one, although not specified in the description) has been already in china warehouse since some weeks ago.
i didn't pay attention because was a bit busy these weeks.
it's sku 20352 ($73.59 ZNA 30 Style VV/VW mod - Silver)
Not only did you miss that silver colored one but there's a black one also (wotofo also believe) although I don't see a 18650 tube in black just silver. I say silver but its the natural metal color, stainless steel or aluminum or whatever metal its made of.

The robot version, it costs enough that I could get 2 Clouper boxes and have change left. Is it really twice as nice?

MAN I'm diggin' that white Sir Lancelot! I just need a white/copper dripper or tank system to go up top!! Vapingwalrus has had a white Plume Veil clone but it goes out of stock super quick.
The new one has stainless accents while the one listed a few weeks ago has copper ones, or the other way around, can't remember, gettin old. Just saying so you pick the one you'd rather have. Same manufacturer I assume because the prices are within a buck of each other.

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Not only did you miss that silver colored one but there's a black one also (wotofo also believe) although I don't see a 18650 tube in black just silver. I say silver but its the natural metal color, stainless steel or aluminum or whatever metal its made of.

The robot version, it costs enough that I could get 2 Clouper boxes and have change left. Is it really twice as nice?


The new one has stainless accents while the one listed a few weeks ago has copper ones, or the other way around, can't remember, gettin old. Just saying so you pick the one you'd rather have. Same manufacturer I assume because the prices are within a buck of each other.

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Where are you getting Clouper boxes that cheap?
 

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Is the 510 pin on the Robbot ZNA adjustable?

No it is not, it is 1:1 with the original Zen ZNA which also does not have an adjustable 510 .. So use with atties that have an adjustable 510. I have only used it with two atties so far, one with an adjustable 510 (Rose V2) and one without (Russian 91%), both sit flush. A really long pinned atty may be an issue though.
 

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Where are you getting Clouper boxes that cheap?

I am with Tami, Bsoplinger where are you getting Cloupor Box mods for that cheap? I never seen a Cloupor DNA priced lower than $65 .. Also the Robbot is made of 316L stainless steel, and is the sole reason for the higher price point.
 

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I am with Tami, Bsoplinger where are you getting Cloupor Box mods for that cheap? I never seen a Cloupor DNA priced lower than $65 .. Also the Robbot is made of 316L stainless steel, and is the sole reason for the higher price point.
Let me add to that, you said it was something like $25 more than Wotofo wholesale but they've managed to barely raise the price for the Robbot
 

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No it is not, it is 1:1 with the original Zen ZNA which also does not have an adjustable 510 .. So use with atties that have an adjustable 510. I have only used it with two atties so far, one with an adjustable 510 (Rose V2) and one without (Russian 91%), both sit flush. A really long pinned atty may be an issue though.

:( I really hate it when attys don't sit flush. I guess i can pay Zen $15 to change it.
 

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No it is not, it is 1:1 with the original Zen ZNA which also does not have an adjustable 510 .. So use with atties that have an adjustable 510. I have only used it with two atties so far, one with an adjustable 510 (Rose V2) and one without (Russian 91%), both sit flush. A really long pinned atty may be an issue though.
Authentic Russian or from FC. need to add another kayfun to my svoemesto, sxk, custom mod creation. That Rose you keep talking about also has me tempted and will probably be done if you post a review on it, but the Russian is something that I am pretty sure I will get. FC has a couple but no feedback or good info to have me buy just yet
 

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Yes, the Wotofo ZNA was in China an entire month before it came to the US warehouse. When I read your post the other day I took it to mean that you thought it was out of stock in China, but its not. Yes, the Wotofo is confirmed with the Yihi sxa300 chip.

The Robbot ZNA uses the Cloupor V3 which behaves just like the Evolv DNA chip, so no, it is does not step down voltage, and you will get a too low wattage setting where applicable. The one advantage that I find with the Cloupor chip, both the V2 and V3 is that the boost circuitry is better than the Yihi chip, because performance doesn't lag on a low battery. With the Yihi chip I can feel when the battery is low well before "low battery" cut off happens because the performance lags.

Not only did you miss that silver colored one but there's a black one also (wotofo also believe) although I don't see a 18650 tube in black just silver. I say silver but its the natural metal color, stainless steel or aluminum or whatever metal its made of.

The robot version, it costs enough that I could get 2 Clouper boxes and have change left. Is it really twice as nice?
Thank you both! =))
I was ready to trigger the wotofo zna, but after reading your indication about robbot chip efficiency, and seeing the fast movement involving znas, i've decided to slow down and wait a bit. anyway, i spent a lot this month, with kato and rose (and nautilus, to check the new bvc, oriented to suggest to newbie vaper friends).
50w and new chipsets versions are showing up, at same price (aprox.) than previous, i'm not in a hurry, so going to wait and see before buying.

Is it really worth it? What kinds of things do they put up and how much can you save?
first seckills were really amazing. about 50-60% off in top hot gear (i got a [hcigar] taifun gt for about $14, and also a golden kayfun).
last ones were so-so (lower discounts on average/low stuff, but also some top ones); i got an splendid panzer (the more expensive one, which has surprised me, because it has similar voltage drop than the stingray x!), and also the ivogo mini kayfun and a mini nemesis.

it cost nothing to try the items you like, if they are offered, and you have the illusion you can win: and it's true, you can win, i can tell it.

Edit: also got the cheaper stingray x this way.

Keyman gave us the guidelines. so he is the master
 
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They just released that so I doubt anyone has received it yet .. Don't get it if you like to run single coil configurations, which this Big Dripper clone is not set up for. But the 4 holes that it does have are in the right place, and otherwise looks just like the original.

Nice! Gonna snag one of these first if next week, Wish it was in the USA warehouse but hey, can't complain, the price is right!! I have an ehpro pontus coming in this week so I can compare the two.
 

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Let me add to that, you said it was something like $25 more than Wotofo wholesale but they've managed to barely raise the price for the Robbot

I think that FC realizes that in spite of the 316L stainless steel, that there is only so much that folks are gonna pay, especially for a clone. So they may be accepting lower profit margin on this one.

Discount Vapers is selling the aluminum Wotofo for $98, another US vendor has it at $99.99, one Ebay vendor was selling it for $104.98 .. so just to put pricing into perspective. Doris also told me that one un-named US vendor contacted A-mod/Wotofo to complain about FC's price, saying it was killing his business. I think we often forget that China price points are not the norm for this market, and that is one reason that several Chinese manufacturers refuse to directly supply to domestic markets, because it messes up their relationships in the foreign trade market. US vendors don't want Chinese vendors to have the opportunity to sell the same product for less money.
 

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:( I really hate it when attys don't sit flush. I guess i can pay Zen $15 to change it.


That is not a bad price to update the pin. :) .. Oh and FYI, the "Comcig ZNA" listed on Zen's price list is actually the Robbot ZNA, Comcig is just a reseller, and they actually re-sell three different ZNA's.

This came up randomly in a conversation with Sylvia from Robbot two days ago when I was giving her feedback on the one piece that I received. She said that they had supplied their 1:1 to Comcig, who repackaged and re-sold it. But she also said that they will not be doing that going forward, and that all re-sellers must re-sell under the Robbot Tech brand as a condition of supply. Just like Infinite, Comcig was getting all the credit for a 1:1 they did not make.
 

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Authentic Russian or from FC. need to add another kayfun to my svoemesto, sxk, custom mod creation. That Rose you keep talking about also has me tempted and will probably be done if you post a review on it, but the Russian is something that I am pretty sure I will get. FC has a couple but no feedback or good info to have me buy just yet

Make sure that the Russian has an adjustable 510 pin though, there are a lot of Russian clones that do not, just FYI. Rose review will be posted on Monday ... The Taifun GT and GS has adjustable 510 pins, the Mephisto has an adjustable 510 .. I know there are more, but my brain is freezing :laugh:

It should be a standard that every 510 atomizer type comes with an adjustable 510, it just makes life so much easier .. The Rose is ruining me though, I sure hope they start making different finishes or accessories for it so I can justify having more than one. :D
 
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Thank you both! =))
I was ready to trigger the wotofo zna, but after reading your indication about robbot chip efficiency, and seeing the fast movement involving znas, i've decided to slow down and wait a bit. anyway, i spent a lot this month, with kato and rose (and nautilus, to check the new bvc, oriented to suggest to newbie vaper friends).
50w and new chipsets versions are showing up, at same price (aprox.) than previous, i'm not in a hurry, so going to wait and see before buying.


first seckills were really amazing. about 50-60% off in top hot gear (i got a [hcigar] taifun gt for about $14, and also a golden kayfun).
last ones were so-so (lower discounts on average/low stuff, but also some top ones); i got an splendid panzer (the more expensive one, which has surprised me, because it has similar voltage drop than the stingray x!), and also the ivogo mini kayfun and a mini nemesis.

it cost nothing to try the items you like, if they are offered, and you have the illusion you can win: and it's true, you can win, i can tell it.

Did I not say that Haku is the seckill master? :blink: I mean, wholly loot bucket man! :laugh: Haku you must have great Karma my friend :laugh:
 

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Nice! Gonna snag one of these first if next week, Wish it was in the USA warehouse but hey, can't complain, the price is right!! I have an ehpro pontus coming in this week so I can compare the two.

Please let me know your thoughts on the EHpro Pontus, definitely curious and interested in that one. Its so much better looking than the Big Dripper, aesthetically speaking.
 

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Where are you getting Clouper boxes that cheap?

I am with Tami, Bsoplinger where are you getting Cloupor Box mods for that cheap? I never seen a Cloupor DNA priced lower than $65 .. Also the Robbot is made of 316L stainless steel, and is the sole reason for the higher price point.
The robot is $89+, the 18650 tube is $11+, the black box in the group buy is $43+, the red or blue $48+
That means that you can buy 2 boxes which take a 18650 for less than 1 robot which takes a 18650. Which is why I asked. I went and double checked the prices since it was last night when I couldn't sleep and I thought I perhaps misread them. Is there something here I'm missing?

I didn't realize that the robot was made from stainless steel vs I assume aluminum for the wotofo one and the boxes.

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