Focalecig ... A new Fasttech??

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Nailz

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    Yes, there is venting through the switch. The other positive thing I can say is that these tubes fit fine with nipple top batteries, without having to remove the bottom half of the positive contact in the switch. On the Vela set, I have to remove the lower contact pin in order to use it with nipple top batteries.

    Always good if nipples work, not that I have any though :blink:
     

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    great. every new about the fire of life is a good one =))

    edit:
    i thought that the fire of life was using 20x1, like the tree of life.
    but we can figure why they are 21x1: they are 23mm wide (both the $30 vela and the fol) instead of 22, and their walls have the same thickness than the 22mm versions (1mm): so 23-2=21(internal diameter) x1.
     
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    Just got my 4nine from the group buy. It's unbelievably tiny.
    Is that the one with the improved top cap? Where in the US are you located? I ordered from that group buy but don't get tracking. Always a surprise when something shows up in the mailbox.

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    Just got my 4nine from the group buy. It's unbelievably tiny. :laugh:

    Time to dial it in. :vapor:

    I can't do the 4nine in 350 mode, and that is coming from a 18350 fan :blink: There is a such thing as too small .. The SXK Infinite SR X is also the same height as the 4nine in 350 mode, so when I finally get it, I will definitely be using that one in 500/650 mode.
     

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    Yeah it does ... I didn't even notice it until you said something. Additional air flow I suppose? Yours looks slick with the Taifun dripper, I'm a little jelly :p

    And I forgot to add that the threading on this is 21x1, so it fits the FC Vela set, and these caps do look kinda nice on the Vela.
    20x1, hmm. sounds like it'll be compatible with the Heron :evil:
     

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    Is that the one with the improved top cap? Where in the US are you located? I ordered from that group buy but don't get tracking. Always a surprise when something shows up in the mailbox.

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    I'm in South TX, right on the border. I got on the group buy fairly early though, I think I was 24th to pull the trigger. Yours should be in the mail next week I expect.
     

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    So I just received a brass 4nine from Focal's group buy:

    $19.48 4Nine Style Mechanical Mod

    The Good: It's amazingly tiny and minimalistic. All of the tubes and threading is well-machined although the seams between the tubes are apparent, there no hiding them. All of my atomizers fire with flat top batteries although I'd recommend button top batteries in order to shorten the throw of the switch. Hits noticably better than my brass stringray. Oh, and it was $14!! :D

    The Bad: The switch/button provokes three complaints.

    First, the delrin/magnet housing for the top part of the switch (attaching to the bottom of the battery/floating above the button) is too thick. This makes it difficult for the button to make contact with the copper housing and/or the copper housing to make contact with the battery so that sometimes the mod will not fire. :facepalm: In the short term this means that you have to spin the magnet lower in the housing. In the mid term this probably means that the delrin needs to be sanded down .5mm or so (tomorrow's project). In the long term, this might call for a new switch/button.

    The second problem is that the button sits just a hair or so below the tube creating a dissapointing wobble when the mod is set on end--isn't that the point of having a recessed switch? :confused: Using a button top battery to shorten the throw and thus increase the static force of magnets should address this.

    Lastly the button is not exactly flush with the tubing which creates a little crunchiness. I expect as the copper rounds this will disappear. Again a bit of sanding can address this.

    Overall I'd give this a 3/5 stars. I would have paid more to have gotten the tolerances in the switch worked out but otherwise a fine value if you're willing to put some work into it. :2c:
     

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    First, the delrin/magnet housing for the top part of the switch (attaching to the bottom of the battery/floating above the button) is too thick. This makes it difficult for the button to make contact with the copper housing and/or the copper housing to make contact with the battery so that sometimes the mod will not fire. :facepalm: In the short term this means that you have to spin the magnet lower in the housing. In the mid term this probably means that the delrin needs to be sanded down .5mm or so (tomorrow's project). In the long term, this might call for a new switch/button.

    I read the same thing about the Orochi last night, at the other place. On that one, the top pin (floating part) was too thick too, and needed to get sanded down as well. At least you don't have one of those. All that sanding fixed that mod - hopefully it'll do the same for yours (luckily it's soft). Maybe it'll fix Nikki's problem with '350s too. (The main problem with the Orochi was that there was no way to fit the batt and the atty without a nasty gap, plus all those problems you metioned about the switch.) Hmm, I wonder if they were both made by the same manufacturer. Would the upgraded switch that FC sells address any of those problems, or does the unit you have already have it?
     
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    So I just received a brass 4nine from Focal's group buy:

    $19.48 4Nine Style Mechanical Mod

    The Good: It's amazingly tiny and minimalistic. All of the tubes and threading is well-machined although the seams between the tubes are apparent, there no hiding them. All of my atomizers fire with flat top batteries although I'd recommend button top batteries in order to shorten the throw of the switch. Hits noticably better than my brass stringray. Oh, and it was $14!! :D

    The Bad: The switch/button provokes three complaints.

    First, the delrin/magnet housing for the top part of the switch (attaching to the bottom of the battery/floating above the button) is too thick. This makes it difficult for the button to make contact with the copper housing and/or the copper housing to make contact with the battery so that sometimes the mod will not fire. :facepalm: In the short term this means that you have to spin the magnet lower in the housing. In the mid term this probably means that the delrin needs to be sanded down .5mm or so (tomorrow's project). In the long term, this might call for a new switch/button.

    The second problem is that the button sits just a hair or so below the tube creating a dissapointing wobble when the mod is set on end--isn't that the point of having a recessed switch? :confused: Using a button top battery to shorten the throw and thus increase the static force of magnets should address this.

    Lastly the button is not exactly flush with the tubing which creates a little crunchiness. I expect as the copper rounds this will disappear. Again a bit of sanding can address this.

    Overall I'd give this a 3/5 stars. I would have paid more to have gotten the tolerances in the switch worked out but otherwise a fine value if you're willing to put some work into it. :2c:

    To your first issue try popping the magnet out so it's floating. Then the copper ring can be set closer to the button and still make contact to the battery.

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    I read the same thing about the Orochi last night, at the other place. On that one, the top pin (floating part) was too thick too, and needed to get sanded down as well. At least you don't have one of those. All that sanding fixed that mod - hopefully it'll do the same for yours (luckily it's soft). Maybe it'll fix Nikki's problem with '350s too. (The main problem with the Orochi was that there was no way to fit the batt and the atty without a nasty gap, plus all those problems you metioned about the switch.) Hmm, I wonder if they were both made by the same manufacturer. Would the upgraded switch that FC sells address any of those problems, or does the unit you have already have it?

    Oh, that's not what I was talking about. I simply removed the delrin from the top cap entirely to avoid having the gap between battery and atty. As long as you don't put the battery on upside down, it's fine. The delrin there is just a security blanket not really doing much.

    That said, I would definitely recommend a button top battery just to shorten the throw.

    It's not clear that the upgraded switch will address the issue that I'm having. The pictures
     

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    To your first issue try popping the magnet out so it's floating. Then the copper ring can be set closer to the button and still make contact to the battery.

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    Yeah, that's what I tried first and again, on mine, the delrin donut is too thick. If I can reduce its width I can do what you suggest. That is the plan for tomorrow anyway.
     

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    Oh, that's not what I was talking about. I simply removed the delrin from the top cap entirely to avoid having the gap between battery and atty. As long as you don't put the battery on upside down, it's fine. The delrin there is just a security blanket not really doing much.

    That said, I would definitely recommend a button top battery just to shorten the throw.

    It's not clear that the upgraded switch will address the issue that I'm having. The pictures

    Yeah, I got a little confusing there for a minute. I was talking about the fat delrin on the switch at the bottom. That's what needed to get shaved on the Orochi, to make more room in there, and to get the button to consistently make contact. :blush:
     
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