I have the original as well. I like the setup a lot better than the others except for the AFC. I find it almost impossible to set the draw properly on this. The V4+ seems to have gone back to the original V2/V3 AFC which is much better. I ordered a V4+ to see how it works. The thing that I liked about the V2/V3 AFC is that once you figured out what you liked, you could set it in the dark without have to get a magnifying glass to make adjustments!!! V4+ could combine the best of all of them. Foggers are definitely my favorite tank.
Fogger V4!!
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From what I can tell, the second and third versions have a better Air Flow Control Ring, and the third one has a larger Build Deck/Chimney base. I think I have the second version, and it works great. I have a third version coming next week, and I'm guessing I'll like it even more.
Weird. Mine has Fogger 4.0 stamped on it. Why the hell didn't they just change it to 4.1, 4.2, etc.? I'm not sure what to call the damn things!
As long as they fix the AFC, I will be happy. Thought the first version was great other than that. Don't really care about the rest of the changes. I thought the first version was an easy setup.
Well I guess I shows that the manufacturer is looking at feedback and trying to make changes, which is a great thing, could be worse. My main concern is that with the larger deck, chimney the chamber volume will increase, something that I hate in general, I'm a big fan of reducers, and reduced chamber volume due to the increase in flavor. I've got the v4 + I guess we can call it that (the first version with the copper pin n proper afc) I waited to order any more when I heard about the batch with the thin fill hole anticipating a fix in the next batch, now I'm going to wait to hear some more details on this bigger deck.
I am still very happy with the performance of this atty overall, prolly be ordering a couple more rather than any kf's.
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I am still very happy with the performance of this atty overall, prolly be ordering a couple more rather than any kf's.
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I haven't really had an issue with my AFC ring and I have the original. It may be because I've never taken it off and cleaned it. I think some of the juice has gotten between the AFC ring and base and tightened it up a bit. It never was all that loose to begin with though...at least to me. To be fair though, I don't really have anything to compare it either as it was my first atty with AFC.
Mine 'new version' v4 left Eciggity on Thursday and is supposed to be here on Monday. It should look awesome on my black Hana clone!
Black version 4.0+ On black MVP2
MVP2 has an anodised look and the fogger is more gunmetal black.
I get denser clouds with the miniProtank2 with microcoils.
With the fogger the clouds seem to be thinner more diluted.
It could be i dont have enough power on the MVP.
current build is dual coil on 2mmX10 wraps of 32gauge kanthal.
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Drop some wraps if you can, what's it ohming out at? Fv4 kills a ProTank.
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I'm running @ 6 wraps of 28ga coming out to 0.6ohms, but you don't have to go that low. 1.4ohm should be cool on mvp I think, not sure tho
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Its ohming at 1.9ohms
Ordered some new 1mm ekowool wicks from pinkmule. Will wait for them before i try another build.
In the mean time it still vapes ok, and i do get my nic kick.
Actually its wickking better now then one tank ago.
Ordered some new 1mm ekowool wicks from pinkmule. Will wait for them before i try another build.
In the mean time it still vapes ok, and i do get my nic kick.
Actually its wickking better now then one tank ago.
That's what I was expecting, you'll notice a world of difference going down to 1.4ohm, 2mm is what you want for that atty tho, as far as wicks go, I'm using 2mm xc -116 and it fits right. 1mm might lead to leaking....
I prefer cotton to both tho.
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I prefer cotton to both tho.
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Figure out how low you can go with that mvp and shoot for a tenth above.
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Yeah keep in mind that you are basically firing two atties with one MVP, so you only have 5.5 watts per coil. Lowering the wire thickness or the coils will probably help get more out of it.
So my guy on eBay, vapology, where I got my v4+ from, he is a great seller BTW, says the bigger deck in the new version adds to the pressure in the tank and thus increased wicking. That makes a little bit of sense.
Anyone who has compared the two? I have been waiting for feedback before I ordered another...?
Anyone who has compared the two? I have been waiting for feedback before I ordered another...?
Wow 50 pages of posts later...
Broke the glass on the original so picked up the + version and a replacement glass a few days ago. Got the original, replacement glass and + from vapercompany. The threads on the + are not scratchy like the original. It really helps that the bottom ring is removable now to better expose the deck for building. Threaded airflow control ring is loose but works as well as the original and feels like the same airy draw. I might tighten that ring up a tad to really get the benefit from an improvement like that. As far as wicking I can't tell a difference but I never had problems with that on the original either keeping the coil close to the deck and wick as short as possible. Nor would I expect a difference unless the airflow control or wick channels had changed. The vacuum is created by you - the amount of draw on intake and the air inlet IE control ring. Given same draw, closing down the air inlet will increase vacuum whilst opening the air hole up lessons vacuum. IMHO size of deck etc are anecdotal for vacuum creation. Larger wick channels could improve wicking volume given same vacuum but they are the same. With that said I do like the increased distance between wick channels on the deck for my builds. It makes placing the wick in the channels easier and provides more room for coils. I do not wrap my coils tight together so they are touching, I wrap them loose so there is a gap between each coil. This provides area for vapor production between each coil not just the ends of a tightly wrapped coil, IE I get more vapor and better flavor. What makes more difference between builds in wicking is how far down the wick ends in the channels. Too short and it will flood and blowing to clear can blow the wicks out of the channel. So there is a happy medium as others have posted where the wick ends half way down the channels and that seems optimum. And while I have tried many builds based on silica I have enjoyed the vape experience from every one.
I can appreciate the reasoning for the copper center screw as copper is a better conductor but in reality I see no difference in resistance and the post and plate materials haven't changed so I wouldn't expect much. I do like that the screw is a flat top instead of a rounded pan head.
Current build in the original is 6 turns of 34 gauge Kanthal. Current build on the + is 7 turns of 30 gauge Kanthal. Per coil. With the + on an EVIC Supreme I can fire it from 10 to 30 watts but 12 is close to optimum for flavor and vapor production for my tastes.
I would still like to see spring loaded posts and a top fill port and a rubber plug vice screw. It appears there is room under the chimney chamber to do that as the deck connection plates and posts appear lower so I may make my own mod one of these days. A couple small washers and springs might do the trick if the screws are long enough.
If considering adding a Fogger to your inventory don't hesitate, get the + version of the V4, the improvements in the deck area for builds is worth it. And just like the original it producs great flavor and amounts of lung hit vapor.
Photos in album comparing original to +: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/members/350zmo-albums-fogger-v4-v4.html
Broke the glass on the original so picked up the + version and a replacement glass a few days ago. Got the original, replacement glass and + from vapercompany. The threads on the + are not scratchy like the original. It really helps that the bottom ring is removable now to better expose the deck for building. Threaded airflow control ring is loose but works as well as the original and feels like the same airy draw. I might tighten that ring up a tad to really get the benefit from an improvement like that. As far as wicking I can't tell a difference but I never had problems with that on the original either keeping the coil close to the deck and wick as short as possible. Nor would I expect a difference unless the airflow control or wick channels had changed. The vacuum is created by you - the amount of draw on intake and the air inlet IE control ring. Given same draw, closing down the air inlet will increase vacuum whilst opening the air hole up lessons vacuum. IMHO size of deck etc are anecdotal for vacuum creation. Larger wick channels could improve wicking volume given same vacuum but they are the same. With that said I do like the increased distance between wick channels on the deck for my builds. It makes placing the wick in the channels easier and provides more room for coils. I do not wrap my coils tight together so they are touching, I wrap them loose so there is a gap between each coil. This provides area for vapor production between each coil not just the ends of a tightly wrapped coil, IE I get more vapor and better flavor. What makes more difference between builds in wicking is how far down the wick ends in the channels. Too short and it will flood and blowing to clear can blow the wicks out of the channel. So there is a happy medium as others have posted where the wick ends half way down the channels and that seems optimum. And while I have tried many builds based on silica I have enjoyed the vape experience from every one.
I can appreciate the reasoning for the copper center screw as copper is a better conductor but in reality I see no difference in resistance and the post and plate materials haven't changed so I wouldn't expect much. I do like that the screw is a flat top instead of a rounded pan head.
Current build in the original is 6 turns of 34 gauge Kanthal. Current build on the + is 7 turns of 30 gauge Kanthal. Per coil. With the + on an EVIC Supreme I can fire it from 10 to 30 watts but 12 is close to optimum for flavor and vapor production for my tastes.
I would still like to see spring loaded posts and a top fill port and a rubber plug vice screw. It appears there is room under the chimney chamber to do that as the deck connection plates and posts appear lower so I may make my own mod one of these days. A couple small washers and springs might do the trick if the screws are long enough.
If considering adding a Fogger to your inventory don't hesitate, get the + version of the V4, the improvements in the deck area for builds is worth it. And just like the original it producs great flavor and amounts of lung hit vapor.
Photos in album comparing original to +: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/members/350zmo-albums-fogger-v4-v4.html
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