Fogger V4!!

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Tbev

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Lol I'm always on the prowl for the latest and greatest, that's how I found Fv4 in the first place, if it's better I'm in for sure. That being said, it's gotta be as much better than the Fv4 is to a kayfun, imo that's the next minimum requirement.

Again with the threaded plastic tanks.. Blah!
 

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I've got one, but I retired it after about 2 weeks. I love the way it vapes, but it just doesn't hold enough juice for an old day device. I put some juice in it that I like enough to want it in a tank, but not as an all day juice, and after about a week or so the juice started changing flavors. Screw that, clear plastic tanks should NEVER be used in ecigs. Every one I've had has caused my juices to change flavors, or worse, the tank fogged up and cracked! I'm not sure what kind of chemical reaction is going on to cause that, but I'm certainly not vaping it. And this particular juice I had in my Orchid has been in my old Kraken for months without any change in flavor.
 
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Lol I'm always on the prowl for the latest and greatest, that's how I found Fv4 in the first place, if it's better I'm in for sure. That being said, it's gotta be as much better than the Fv4 is to a kayfun, imo that's the next minimum requirement.

Again with the threaded plastic tanks.. Blah!

HAHAH well then.. its not gonna be that kind of better, so maybe in another month something will come out. BUT, as long as the kayfun reigned supreme, the Orchid may be the one to hold on for a long while so... ;) but things are changing faster now in the vaping world so im sure there will be something else great SOON! :vapor:
 

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I've got one, but I retired it after about 2 weeks. I love the way it vapes, but it just doesn't hold enough juice for an old day device. I put some juice in it that I like enough to want it in a tank, but not as an all day juice, and after about a week or so the juice started changing flavors. Screw that, clear plastic tanks should NEVER be used in ecigs. Every one I've had has caused my juices to change flavors, or worse, the tank fogged up and cracked! I'm not sure what kind of chemical reaction is going on to cause that, but I'm certainly not vaping it. And this particular juice I had in my Orchid has been in my old Kraken for months without any change in flavor.

good point, i keep forgetting about the glass versus the plastic!! :?:
 

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Nobody likes my Big Wolverine, however, it could very well be a "Fogger Killer" if they got in a Sumo Wrestlers fight. LOL

A person could cancel their gym membership if they had a couple of those 26650 set-ups you have...not that I've been to a gym in the last 20 years.
 

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Thanks for these links! I just drilled my silver fogger (which was already bigger than my black one as well kiwi:) and drilled easy. Then when I tried to drill my black one it wont work! It barely just opened the end a little but would not drill the hole out. Seems to be much harder metal. I tried three different drill bits from different mfg. and no luck. Have others seen this difference in metal between the silver and black? Its making me think the Orchid clone is just going to better since it doesnt need drilled and fills fine from the bottom if you just crack it open enough for a syringe to fit in. Dont hate tbev ;) hehe

kiwi glad to have you back state side!! :toast:

Something I noticed on one of my Foggers after drilling it out It still had a tight draw compared to my other Foggers. A closer inspection I found the top of the chimney where the small threads are that connect to the top was not drilled completely through leaving a opening about 7/64th of an inch. My others are about 9/64th so drilling the top cap of the chimney fixed the tight draw for me. I don't have any black foggers only 3 stainless and they all drilled easily for me.
 

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Something I noticed on one of my Foggers after drilling it out It still had a tight draw compared to my other Foggers. A closer inspection I found the top of the chimney where the small threads are that connect to the top was not drilled completely through leaving a opening about 7/64th of an inch. My others are about 9/64th so drilling the top cap of the chimney fixed the tight draw for me. I don't have any black foggers only 3 stainless and they all drilled easily for me.

I, personally, like to use good quality HSS uncoated bits that are made in the US or Germany. Definitely NOT made in China.
I like to sharpen my bits after using them. And when you sharpen your drill bit, you grind that coating off any way. Whatever "Holy Grail" material it might be made out of.

A sharp, good quality HSS bit, with the right spindle RPM, enough lubricant/cooling and the right pressure will drill 304 Stainless Steel like butter. I doubt that the black Fogger is made out of a different material then it's silver brother. I've drilled both.
I'm guessing that after he drilled his silver ones, his drill bit became dull and that's why he could not drill the black one. IMO
 

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I'm guessing that after he drilled his silver ones, his drill bit became dull and that's why he could not drill the black one. IMO

I wonder if its because the hole was smaller in the black one. I will try to drill it first to the same size that the silver one was (1/16) and then try to 5/64 again. Thanks for your feedback!
 

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The black coating is most likely the problem, so what Trucker said is even more important: spindle speed is critical! You're more than likely running your drill bit too fast and dulling it as soon as you hit that coating. It may still look sharp on the tip, but the outer cutting edges are probably toast. Try slowing it down
 

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Lol I'm always on the prowl for the latest and greatest, that's how I found Fv4 in the first place, if it's better I'm in for sure. That being said, it's gotta be as much better than the Fv4 is to a kayfun, imo that's the next minimum requirement.

Again with the threaded plastic tanks.. Blah!

Haha,it may i repeat may not be that drastic of a change,but definitely a bit better at the least.After building my 2nd one today,i was looking around to see what juice i have that i could use in it,that wont crack the plastic.I found a bottle of apple menthol,that i tried in the fogger last week and could not taste the apple,only the menthol.Well with the orchid,the apple is really coming through.I had even tried this juice in my patriot and the apple wont come through with it either,but something is going on with this because the apple is coming in fantastic.

As for the plastic tank,i am in the works with another member on here,to get a full sized glass setup for these.They have the ability to cut the glass,so i am going to pick up a few kayfun quartz kits and send them to them to be cut to the right size.It will be probably a month before it's all done,since the kits will be from fasttech,but if this works out,it will definitely be a viable option for those who want glass on their orchids.At first i wasn't to thrilled with the plastic tank idea,but i have found that i have enough juices that wont crack it,to where it's not really an issue anymore,but it will definitely be a nice step up to get the glass done and be able to use all my flavors in it.
 

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Haha,it may i repeat may not be that drastic of a change,but definitely a bit better at the least.After building my 2nd one today,i was looking around to see what juice i have that i could use in it,that wont crack the plastic.I found a bottle of apple menthol,that i tried in the fogger last week and could not taste the apple,only the menthol.Well with the orchid,the apple is really coming through.I had even tried this juice in my patriot and the apple wont come through with it either,but something is going on with this because the apple is coming in fantastic.

As for the plastic tank,i am in the works with another member on here,to get a full sized glass setup for these.They have the ability to cut the glass,so i am going to pick up a few kayfun quartz kits and send them to them to be cut to the right size.It will be probably a month before it's all done,since the kits will be from fasttech,but if this works out,it will definitely be a viable option for those who want glass on their orchids.At first i wasn't to thrilled with the plastic tank idea,but i have found that i have enough juices that wont crack it,to where it's not really an issue anymore,but it will definitely be a nice step up to get the glass done and be able to use all my flavors in it.

How much do you want to bet that by the time you'll have your glass tank for your Orchid done. Some Company, out there, will start selling either Orchid Pyrex Glass conversion kit, or a new Pyrex Glass Orchid revision, or Little Buddha, or something of that sort? LOL
 

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I just tried a Fogger v4 (the version with the bigger chimney). My friend bought it a couple months ago but didn't know how to build it. I put a .4 ohm rayon build on it and I was blown away by the flavor. Far better than I expected. Also produced plenty of vape. I would say it was up there with a nice dripper. I just started to try out some tanks recently. I was never impressed with the kayfun and just avoided tanks altogether. I bought an Orchid clone that I think is decent, but the Fogger seem to be better. However, I prefer the look of the Orchid. Also the Orchid deck was much easier to work with. I would be all over a tank that looks like the Orchid and performs like the Fogger. I think the Orchid could use slightly deeper channels and an option for a glass tank.
 

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I still love this thread, even though I don't own a fogger... Yet. Lots of great info on modifying things to work better, and it's got a true communal vibe, which is awesome.

I've for a VTR coming my way, I know some folks around here have modded that top ring, which I intend to do as well.

Then, in another paycheck or two, I'll be ordering a fogger without a doubt!
 

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I still love this thread, even though I don't own a fogger... Yet. Lots of great info on modifying things to work better, and it's got a true communal vibe, which is awesome.

I've for a VTR coming my way, I know some folks around here have modded that top ring, which I intend to do as well.

Then, in another paycheck or two, I'll be ordering a fogger without a doubt!

Here is my VTR drilled to 21 mm to work with Aqua, but I don't think that ring has enough metal in it to accommodate 22mm or 23mm, unless you cut it off altogether. But then it will look ugly. It is also very heavy. Imagine a tin box that size full of lead, that's how much VTR weighs. There are better DNA and SX300, 350 Box Mods are out there. At 30W - 50W true Power that will work with your Sub Ohm Fogger.

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IMO: I don't think VTR and Fogger will like each-other. Size vice and Power vice. I bought it when I thought I would carry it on my belt (like a cell phone), I even bought Innokin holster for it, It turns out that it is too weak for me. It is at home collecting dust.

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