I am in Millions of debt literally, not double digit millions but at least $4 Million...I am disabled and can't work...only make $11,900 a year...not worth trying to correct the theft on my end...I am screwed. lol
Fraud Charges 2nd Time This Year. !!!! Retailers get your **** together!!!
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I am in Millions of debt literally, not double digit millions but at least $4 Million...I am disabled and can't work...only make $11,900 a year...not worth trying to correct the theft on my end...I am screwed. lol
Also, report any credit history that was not your's do too fraud to the credit reporting agencys
I just check my credit card online and it's fine. I placed two orders with mt baker vapor this month and one with discount vapor
I look at it this way. If you can get the proof that one particular vendor is having problems then yeah, let everyone know. Listing a handful that might be the culprit is just wrong however. It runs the risk of giving all of those vendors a black eye when it might not be their fault. It's like saying that you dealt with ten men yesterday and today you got held up by a masked man in a parking lot, so obviously it had to be one of those ten men. You're so sure of it that you're going to publish their names in the local paper and let everyone else know so they can be on the lookout for them. Defamation of character anyone?
Want to blame someone? Blame the credit card companies themselves. They KNOW who the culprits are and refuse to tell you; Banks and credit card firms keep ID theft victims in the dark - Los Angeles Times
Currently there are numerous ways to have your card info stolen, from shopping at a store that had their terminals messed with (Michael's, Schnucks) to the 17 year old waiter that did a pencil rubbing of your card while running it for your tuna salad sandwich at lunch. There are keyloggers that can be installed on your computer without your knowledge, and the new generation now read actual key presses, virtual keyboards are useless. Gas station and atm card readers are a particularly favorite form of theft... The list goes on and on, and time frame means absolutely nothing. The length of time between theft and use can be weeks, months, or even years.
I understand ranting, but the only way this is going to stop completely is to cut up all your credit and bank cards. If you're not willing to do that, then learn about every possible precaution you can, and then take them.
Want to blame someone? Blame the credit card companies themselves. They KNOW who the culprits are and refuse to tell you; Banks and credit card firms keep ID theft victims in the dark - Los Angeles Times
Currently there are numerous ways to have your card info stolen, from shopping at a store that had their terminals messed with (Michael's, Schnucks) to the 17 year old waiter that did a pencil rubbing of your card while running it for your tuna salad sandwich at lunch. There are keyloggers that can be installed on your computer without your knowledge, and the new generation now read actual key presses, virtual keyboards are useless. Gas station and atm card readers are a particularly favorite form of theft... The list goes on and on, and time frame means absolutely nothing. The length of time between theft and use can be weeks, months, or even years.
I understand ranting, but the only way this is going to stop completely is to cut up all your credit and bank cards. If you're not willing to do that, then learn about every possible precaution you can, and then take them.
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Actually they wont lock the thread, But I'm locking you up for a couple days. If you have a problem with the moderation on this forum you are handling it the wrong way. Maybe over the next few days you'll cool off and figure out the proper way to deal with it.
Absolutely correct. You can visit someplace and get a little nasty on your PC that talks back to its master and not even have to worry about the vendor site is using SSL or not. They compromised your PC in this case.
All that being said if you are careful, have good AV/Malware protection and only visit trusted vendors/sites you should be fine. But nothing is 100% safe.
Carry on.
I think this is very important, the "make sure your own backyard is clean before you go complaining about someone else's". Keyloggers on your own computer are a very real threat, if you are having issues multiple times, I would make sure your own computer has not been comprimised.
You are very right, If your own home network is unsecure you neighbor can hack you and get our credit card number. adware,malware,virsis ect... all can be the issue
I started this thread almost 1 year ago. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/alien-visions-e-juice/305135-drive-virus.html Replies to it attempted over & over to discredit me & also discredit Norton for catching it.
So here we are a year later & folks are getting their credit cards compromised. What does that say about this vendor?
BTW. Yesterday I checked & their website is still closed. (I checked with my iPhone...no way will I go there on my computer!)
Comments welcome.
So here we are a year later & folks are getting their credit cards compromised. What does that say about this vendor?
BTW. Yesterday I checked & their website is still closed. (I checked with my iPhone...no way will I go there on my computer!)
Comments welcome.
Ok. My account just got hit on monday-tuesday as well. $700 before my bank caught it and froze the account.
The only Vendor I have in common with OP is ecigexpress.
Other vendors I used at the same time.
Discount Vapers
Wizard Labs
IBTanked
RTD vapor
Im going to go through all the fraud threads now, and right down a list of all the vendors that MIGHT be compromised.
Any vendors that I see mentioned again, I'll tally up.
I'm not gonna share this list, I don't think that would right.....(I'm all for people who have been victims of fraud coming here and listing the vendors they recently ordered from, HOWEVER the list I'm making I don't think should be shared).
Anyway, anyone who is as curious as I am, can do the same thing.
Any vendors that I see mentioned again, I'll tally up.
I'm not gonna share this list, I don't think that would right.....(I'm all for people who have been victims of fraud coming here and listing the vendors they recently ordered from, HOWEVER the list I'm making I don't think should be shared).
Anyway, anyone who is as curious as I am, can do the same thing.
Here's my two cents...
First off, there are a few posts essentially saying the "vendor isn't stealing your information." That's not the issue and wasn't ever suggested that I saw. That would be a faked store. For example "I ordered, my card info was stolen, then fraudulent charges occurred, now there's no website." No legitimate vendor is going to steal your info. If that happened, they'd be long gone by time there were complaints on here.
Secondly, and I hope I can explain this how I want to, this is just the same as somebody stealing merchandise from a store...your info is the merchandise and it basically goes like this:
1. Check out the stores: look at security (are there cameras/is this online vendor using a top rated cart or CC processor)
2. Select the easiest target. Go in and grab something (piece of jewelry/CC info).
3. Wait to see what happens. (Do they install cameras/change software)
4. Repeat 2 and 3
Of course every transaction isn't hijacked. Just like clever thieves aren't going to hit the same store every day. But when they've found a place that's easy, they'll keep going there until it isn't easy.
Lastly, BOTH the vendor and the customer are responsible. They have the responsibility of providing a safe place for shopping. We have the responsibility to take reasonable precautions. Both of those things are subjective as we're all going to have our own versions and expectations of security (both vendor and customer alike). I for one feel that I shouldn't need to get a separate card for buying vaping supplies or other stuff online. That being said, It isn't a bad idea and I'm going to see if my bank has a virtual card or something.
If you think a place isn't safe, don't go there (online or in the world). That's always your first precaution.
/end incessant rambling
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First off, there are a few posts essentially saying the "vendor isn't stealing your information." That's not the issue and wasn't ever suggested that I saw. That would be a faked store. For example "I ordered, my card info was stolen, then fraudulent charges occurred, now there's no website." No legitimate vendor is going to steal your info. If that happened, they'd be long gone by time there were complaints on here.
Secondly, and I hope I can explain this how I want to, this is just the same as somebody stealing merchandise from a store...your info is the merchandise and it basically goes like this:
1. Check out the stores: look at security (are there cameras/is this online vendor using a top rated cart or CC processor)
2. Select the easiest target. Go in and grab something (piece of jewelry/CC info).
3. Wait to see what happens. (Do they install cameras/change software)
4. Repeat 2 and 3
Of course every transaction isn't hijacked. Just like clever thieves aren't going to hit the same store every day. But when they've found a place that's easy, they'll keep going there until it isn't easy.
Lastly, BOTH the vendor and the customer are responsible. They have the responsibility of providing a safe place for shopping. We have the responsibility to take reasonable precautions. Both of those things are subjective as we're all going to have our own versions and expectations of security (both vendor and customer alike). I for one feel that I shouldn't need to get a separate card for buying vaping supplies or other stuff online. That being said, It isn't a bad idea and I'm going to see if my bank has a virtual card or something.
If you think a place isn't safe, don't go there (online or in the world). That's always your first precaution.
/end incessant rambling
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Here's my two cents...
First off, there are a few posts essentially saying the "vendor isn't stealing your information." That's not the issue and wasn't ever suggested that I saw. That would be a faked store. For example "I ordered, my card info was stolen, then fraudulent charges occurred, now there's no website." No legitimate vendor is going to steal your info. If that happened, they'd be long gone by time there were complaints on here.
Secondly, and I hope I can explain this how I want to, this is just the same as somebody stealing merchandise from a store...your info is the merchandise and it basically goes like this:
1. Check out the stores: look at security (are there cameras/is this online vendor using a top rated cart or CC processor)
2. Select the easiest target. Go in and grab something (piece of jewelry/CC info).
3. Wait to see what happens. (Do they install cameras/change software)
4. Repeat 2 and 3
Of course every transaction isn't hijacked. Just like clever thieves aren't going to hit the same store every day. But when they've found a place that's easy, they'll keep going there until it isn't easy.
Lastly, BOTH the vendor and the customer are responsible. They have the responsibility of providing a safe place for shopping. We have the responsibility to take reasonable precautions. Both of those things are subjective as we're all going to have our own versions and expectations of security (both vendor and customer alike). I for one feel that I shouldn't need to get a separate card for buying vaping supplies or other stuff online. That being said, It isn't a bad idea and I'm going to see if my bank has a virtual card or something.
If you think a place isn't safe, don't go there (online or in the world). That's always your first precaution.
/end incessant rambling
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The problem as I see it is the vendors may not know they have a security leak whether it be the cc processor or an employee. If enough people call the suspect vendor and ask about their security they may take a closer look. I agree that a vendor or most vendors, vendors that have been around for awhile aren't going to try and steal our money. Like somebody said, they wouldn't be in business for very long. Then again the problem could be with our PCs but that is harder to locate. Antivirus software isn't always the answer because they can't catch everything and quite often give false results not to mention how they don't play well with other software on your PC.
In my case the solution is simple. I will use a credit card from now on and if I get another fraudulent transaction I will try to locate where the breach is. My bank is doing that as I type. I don't hold much hope of that but I should at least get the name and address of the thief if my bank is able to get this info from the store where the transaction was made. Then I will try to press charges.
Phone security is less than computer security. Please don't feel safe just because you are using your phone.
Well that's good to know because I open email on my phone that I wouldn't open on my PC but I would have less to lose on my phone. I suppose just deleting the email would be the smart thing to do but then it would bug me thinking I might have missed out on something important.
my advice is to have and use reputable credit cards
if i ever had a charge that wasnt mine .. i click dispute. no questions asked and i never get charged
if i ever had a charge that wasnt mine .. i click dispute. no questions asked and i never get charged
Wizard LAbs site went down for maintanance - off line yesterday, spotty today
I've placed 3 orders in just over a week there, last on Saturday evening. Received shipping info Monday. No suspicious activity so far.
This is not at all directed to you or about your situation...
If a security warning shows up during a transaction (or even when just looking) that should raise a red flag. Obviously any zero day virus isn't going to show up in any anti virus/malware program. I rarely ever get false positives, if ever do I block it then start researching it. Most of the time a false positive appears after an update of some software, not out of the blue. Often times the AV software will resolve the false positive in subsequent update. Clicking through warnings with no knowledge of what the warning is about is just asking for problems.
I hope that your issues gets resolved quickly and the thief is caught.
Good luck! :thumbup:
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