Friend is a never smoker; but he wants to start vaping

[KermitTheFog]

I have a friend who never smoked in his life but given he hangs around with me and my other friends who are always ripping mods and vape talking he told us he wants to start vaping too. He's asking us for advice on where to start (he wants to go straight into a mech or APV device) Is this generalized as a bad choice? What should I tell him? I don't want to seem like a jerk but at the same time it wouldn't make sense for him to start vaping since he's not a smoker to begin with.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

You're going to open up a can of worms here. . .

But my opinion is, if he's not a child, and he's interested in vaping, hand him some 0mg juice, teach him about the gear and let him forge his own path. Why can't we all play with what we want to?

I'd warn him that nicotine is a stimulant and that it does (according to most, but not all people) have addictive qualities, so your conscious is clear if he were to venture into that world.

If he's an adult, he makes his own choices. What a better way to make those choices than to be educated out of the gate about gear and juices and potential harms of vaping?

I have a few friends who have never smoked but will vape occasionally. They aren't addicted to it. They don't seem to do it every day. They use 0mg juices, and it's more of a social thing. In college we used to get a group together and smoke hookah and watch movies ect. in people's apartments. Now, we get a group together and vape and watch movies ect. Why not?

 

[dbrandt01]

I would say no personally if it was my friend.

But the mech mod questions. You're going to have a lot to teach him if you want him to be safe. Battery safety, ohms law, teach him how to build, test for shorts. Plus if he vapes, make sure it's 0mg, there is no reason whatsoever for him to vape with nicotine. However, your friend is an adult, you can give advice just like anyone here. If this is something he wants to do then all you can really do is guide him if his mind is set on doing it. You can't be a parent, you can just be a "teacher" so to speak so he's safe. Make sure he builds safe and not at 0.2 ohms for his first build. A lot of this answer depends on how well you will teach him or would just sent him up with a "cloud chasing" setup first.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

You can't be a parent, you can just be a "teacher" so to speak so he's safe. Make sure he builds safe and not at 0.2 ohms for his first build. A lot of this answer depends on how well you will teach him or would just sent him up with a "cloud chasing" setup first.

^+1

100% this.

 

[Rizzyking]

Only had one experience of a non smoker wanting to start vaping and it was mainly because of YouTube, how I hate the words "I saw this video on YouTube" always the start of trouble lol. I had a long chat with him showing him everything that was involved with running and maintaining a safe setup and his enthusiasm disappeared he thought it was all click and play and nothing but fun. I'm guessing it won't be that simple for you as your friend has probably seen you doing the various aspects but maybe explain to him that vaping for you was about getting away from tobacco and it wasn't something you'd have done if you hadn't smoked. Also try the risk argument because while vaping is infinitely better for us ex smokers there are still questions and concerns about it's medium to long-term effects.

Failing that advise him to get a regulated setup and help him pick the safest setup for him to get the itch scratched and hope once he's tried it it's not his thing. Good luck with this and end of the day it's not worth risking a friendship so support him in the way you feel best.

 

[Vaslovik]

Sounds like he's responding to peer pressure, and wants to be included in your group of vapers. Personally I have no problem with never-smokers wanting to vape, provided they are intelligent adults making informed choices. That said, if it were me, I'd steer him away from ultra low ohm builds right away and show him ways to get a great vape without building a pipe bomb.

 

[stevegmu]

Maybe a hybrid mod, 'clone' RDA and e-Bay batteries would be a good start, and cloud chasing e-juice...

 

[Vaslovik]

Maybe a hybrid mod, 'clone' RDA and e-Bay batteries would be a good start, and cloud chasing e-juice...

Why steer him that way? Why make a cloud chaser of him right away?

 

[stevegmu]

Why steer him that way? Why make a cloud chaser of him right away?

He's watching his friends blow clouds and wants to be cool like them. Nothing else will do...

 

[crxess]

I always wanted to jump from a plane - never did.
Always wanted to cliff dive - never did
Wanted to hang glide from cliffs - never did.

Wanted to race Motocross - Did for years - still have scares and permanent arthritics
Wanted to learn to Pilot planes - Did and enjoyed the skies in piece.
Wanted to Scuba dive - did and loved visiting life under the seas.

Wanted to Smoke - Did and trashed my health
Wanted to Vape - Do and getting Better

Life is full of choices, some good, some bad. Some good for one but Bad for another.

Should not make choices for others, only for oneself.

 

[Vaslovik]

He's watching his friends blow clouds and wants to be cool like them. Nothing else will do...

<sigh> Another example of youth wasted on the young...

 

[stevegmu]

<sigh> Another example of youth wasted on the young...

If he were a smoker trying to quit, I'd recommend a ProVari 2.5 and Nautilus tank...

 

[motordude]

You are definitely on commission with.provape.

 

[bluecat]

Assuming he is of legal age would you

If he never drank a beer would you persuade him from drinking a beer?

If he never had a soda, would you persuade him from drinking a soda?

If he never had a cup of coffee, would you tell him he shouldn't?

My wife has never smoked and I offer her a try all the time. She declines.

Get him some zero nic.. or nic.. Let us adults be adults. Let me make my decisions whether they be the wrong ones or the right ones.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

I would give him the advice he was asking for. It is not my job to think for anyone but myself

You know why you guys didn't just start vaping instead of smoking when you first started consuming nicotine...Because we never had the choice

 

[smokinGAVIN]

If he is an adult nobody can stop him. He will do it with or without your blessing. The most you can do is teach him everything you know about the safety aspect so he will be fine.

 

[Jman8]

What should I tell him?

The truth.

Or your truth about what vaping means for you and how/why you chose to take up the activity, and the enjoyment factor you get from it.

 

[DingerCPA]

My SO never smoked, but when I was transitioning from smoking to vaping, she was enamored by the smell of vapes. Wanted to come up with a cherry/almond flavor that reminded her of her Dad who smoked a pipe (he passed away when she was 7.) So, we picked up a K1000 and plopped a Protank 2 on it (with a 1.8 ohm coil) and loaded her up with some 0mg juice. She tootles on that every once in a while. It's certainly NOT cloud chasing, and as long as I'm taking care of the battery and the tank, I'm not the least bit concerned.

So, I really have no right to tell you (or your friend) NO WAY, JOSE. But as others have mentioned, SAFETY FIRST. If your buddy is not willing to take the responsibility of learning what needs to be learned (especially with a mech mod), then I would vehemently say NO WAY, JOSE. If your buddy wants to learn what needs to be learned, then so be it.

 

[thetrucker]

How about starting him out with this suggestion---------------->strawberry custard 0 mg ---Eleaf Istick 30 watt and mini nautilus

 

[RebornLincoln06]

Give him your opinion on mods. Just be sure to tell him the risks of running rebuildable's (battery safety, no regulation in a mech, etc.) He can make his own choices so It's up to him if he wants to use nicotine. Consider getting him a box mod with a sub tank so he's blowing respectable clouds and it's safe(r).