Frustrated with regulated mods !

[sofarsogood]

I started a brother of mine vaping almost 3 years ago on a nautilus mini and istick 20 at 8 watts. Today it's the N mini and Istick 40w at 13 watts. He says it's just superior to everythhing else he's tried. It appears the Istick 40's are still available when he needs another one.

I'm vacationing with my brother today. Here's a photo of his setup, retro perfection.

 

[MacTechVpr]

I agree with you, it was just the only thing I could think of. The OP said he was just switching the RDA from one device to the other. I too enjoy a cool vape, and to achieve the same vape between a mech and an VW/Temp Device, I use different RDAs and builds between all three. Maybe that is what the OP needs to do, try a different RDA and build on the VW to try and get the vape he is looking for.

Nah, it was a very good point really about the spread in perceived temps. Just pointing out my own observation. Thought you meant the opp. Most folks who are "used to" the hotter more diffuse vapes on variables and have not spent any time with mechs are not likely to be aware there's a diff. If they try to match based on strictly pwr or res they're likely to be way off the mark and draw a less than favorable impression.

Also cooler with a matched pwr output is an indication of greater efficiency…a higher vaporization rate. Usually better density depending on the device and given enough air.

Good luck.

 

[stols001]

I'm not going to argue flavors as reg/unregulated when there are way too many variables. I got way more flavor and smoothness from my Steampunk Nano 120 than I did my IPV-5. It's a better mod, I actually had to turn my wattage down, and my airflow down. I have NO CLUE why this may be the case, but I don't think even two of the IDENTICAL tank/mod setups vapes exactly the same. I have one Nautilus 2 that vapes at a slightly tighter draw than my first N2, even though EVERYTHING else is the same. Storebought coils have slight variances in ohms, for example. That's one reason to prime a new coil by going slooowwwllly up on the wattage until I hit the sweet spot with power, airflow, and coil.

You might try looking at it as: a variance. You could try more flavoring in a tank you are going to use in a regulated mod, for example, knowing that the benefit of a regulated mod/tank is that it's far more portable than your mech mod is going to be, and accepting there may be some flavor differences. Or, use only CERTAIN flavors in your regulated mod, others in your mech mod, so that you will adjust. Trying to "identicalize" flavors is a waste of time, in my opinion. You may WELL get a better flavor/flavor that suits you out of a mech mod for the rest of your life, for all I know. I certainly know that there are tanks/mods I love far more than others, though I can vape all of them....

I'm merely pointing out these options as you may be inadvertently on a quest for the holy grail, unless you want to cart a mech mod everywhere with you (I personally would not want to do that, and if I ever need a mech mod I will set my husband loose on the task, I am CERTAINLY not doing that) and vape it only if all my other options elapsed. ALL my options....

Anna

 

[cats5365]

all i know is that my eleaf pico with melo 3 mini does not give much taste and flavor.
someone told me is because of pwm on a regulated mod.

I don't know or understand all the science parts, but I believe you when you describe your experience.

I have and use the Pico with Melo 3 mini that came as a kit. I am currently using the .3 coils in my tanks. I also have several different Provari (this is where the my mod can beat up your mod comes in) that I use with a Nauti X and 1.8 coils. Mostly I use the Radius because I like the box style, but the tube mods are good too.

I started with a Pico kit, but when I got my first Provari, I was able to tell the difference between them with the same tank, same juice. The Provari was much better, but you run into limits on the power the older Provari 2.5 can deliver. At the time, I was using Triton Mini tanks with 1.2 or 1.8 coils because the Nauti X hadn't been released yet.

I still use the Pico kit because I have a couple of juices I like that really sing in the Melo 3 tank, and they work well enough with the Pico that it is easier to deal with the short span of battery life and tank filling with the sub ohm set. If you aren't stuck with one juice, maybe you can experiment and find one that works well with your Pico kit and let that be your travel kit so the mech can stay at home.

confession time: for short trips in the car, I still like my Blu Plus kits. Not the greatest vape, but very purse and pocket friendly. I still have trouble driving without a "cig" between my fingers on the wheel.

If you can get verified, you might be able to pick up a Provari in the classifieds section on ECF. There are other mods and tanks in there from time to time as well. If you know any vapers IRL, you might see if they will let you test your tank on their mods to see how it works for you.

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[tj99959]

Problem is not solved.
I do only use the mech at home.
Put I need a device for when I go out.
The mech is way to big to take out.

Might I suggest getting a different mechanical that is pocket friendly.

I've been using mechanicals sense 2010, so probably as long or longer than most, and I have never had a problem with a mechanical not being pocket friendly. (leaky toppers not withstanding)

I do have a problem though, because of a surgically altered hand "size matters".
Note that these three very different mechanicals are exactly the same length.
The Caravela has a 18650 in it, the NZonic a 18490, and the Mako a 14500.

None of those vapes exactly the same as the others! Simple solution ..... they each use a different flavor.

 

[KenD]

@TerryKoontz, don't use tanks with prebuilt coil heads on a mech. The positive and negative are separated by a thin rubber gasket and if that breaks you have a dead short.

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[QcVaper]

I use 2 regulated mods and swear by them flavor is excellent even with factory coils lolz. No idea how you can't get any flavors from regulated mods but oh well xD

 

[Bonskibon]

@TerryKoontz, don't use tanks with prebuilt coil heads on a mech. The positive and negative are separated by a thin rubber gasket and if that breaks you have a dead short.

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I have also made that suggestion myself. I was using a stock coil not long ago that shorted out while I was vaping with it. It does happen. I don't think the OP is using a RTA or RDA from other posts I've seen.

 

[Izan]

My mech is a hammer by kato with an 18650 battery tube and a 4 ml freemax scylla atty.
Trust me, it is not a portable, but great for home use.

OOOH you have a hammer, have you tested the voltage drop on that unit?

Double check you math as you may be losing .5V or more from internal resistance of the device.
So 4.2V-.5v = 3.7V or less at the atty.
Test for voltage at the Pos/Neg of your atty. (Use a DMM)
Test you battery outside of the device.
Subtract the two.
That is your voltage drop.

Google (Kato/hammer (clone) Voltage drop fixes)
HTH
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ETA: IMO, its best not to choose devices based upon appearance.

 

[Opinionated]

Might I suggest getting a different mechanical that is pocket friendly.

I've been using mechanicals sense 2010, so probably as long or longer than most, and I have never had a problem with a mechanical not being pocket friendly. (leaky toppers not withstanding)

I do have a problem though, because of a surgically altered hand "size matters".
Note that these three very different mechanicals are exactly the same length.
The Caravela has a 18650 in it, the NZonic a 18490, and the Mako a 14500.

None of those vapes exactly the same as the others! Simple solution ..... they each use a different flavor.

What tanks are those?

 

[tj99959]

What tanks are those?

A7 & A7 mini RDAs

 

[Opinionated]

A7 & A7 mini RDAs

Thanks..

 

[rob33]

A7 & A7 mini RDAs

I found my Mark Buggs Chalice III today

 

[Rule62]

I have no answer for why the flavor is different. But I'm stuck on mechanicals not being pocket friendly. I don't understand. As long as the mod has a way to lock the power button, which many mech mods do, I don't get how they are less pocket friendly than regulated mods.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

I have one problem with every regulated mod I own:
I can not get the flavor I get with my mech mod.
I can set the wattage low or high, no taste.
Very frustrating !
Just venting.

This is exactly why ever since I tried potentiometer vaping I've shelved or well drawered™ all my regulated mods, while not as good as a mech it gives you sort of the same feeling with voltage drop and has basic safety features as opposed to constant output...

I own both the Noisy Cricket II-25 and the Charon Adjustable and like both.

Another possible solution is if your mod has power curves give them a try, set them high with a preheat at first then slowly lower the wattage over time.

 

[tj99959]

I have no answer for why the flavor is different. But I'm stuck on mechanicals not being pocket friendly. I don't understand. As long as the mod has a way to lock the power button, which many mech mods do, I don't get how they are less pocket friendly than regulated mods.

Made this little guy years ago (and it still works just fine)
Takes 0.1oz to push that little white micro switch. Put that thing in your pocket & the switch WILL get pushed. It has no safety devices what so ever!

I carried that little guy in my packet all the time back in the day. Never had a problem!
Solution ... unscrew the atomizer a half turn!

Rocket science is sooooooo hard!

add:
People tend to look at the function of a switch backward, thinking that it is used to turn something ON. Well the ckt. would be ON if you just removed the switch from it.
The purpose of a switch is to interrupt the ckt. Thus turning it off.

 

[listopencil]

Have you tried using a regulated mod in bypass mode?

 

[evertking]

I get the same flavor on a mech or a reg. Just me maybe?

 

[MacTechVpr]

I get the same flavor on a mech or a reg. Just me maybe?

Sometimes you just get lucky.

Good luck.

 

[Belhade]

My mech is a hammer by kato with an 18650 battery tube and a 4 ml freemax scylla atty.
Trust me, it is not a portable, but great for home use.

Unless it's powered by a car battery, it's portable.
And I did look up the Kato Hammer, I would totally rock that out in public!