I did ask and the border officer told me that hc that made the law about the nic. I said take the nic out just give me the hardware he said nope law is the law. Didn't seem like a valid explaination. Who was I to argue when I didn't have a clue. also didn't want to stir him up, didn't want to get flagged for when I cross the border again.
Funny little story for you all
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The advisory doesn't tell you this though. It just says e-cigs aren't safe and Canadians should not use them. Very misleading advisory. Nicotine itself isn't "safe" in absolute terms, but you don't see any advisories on Nicorette now do you?[/QUOTE]
Too true! and btw Nicorette products don't work for me and their inhaler is a real joke, just made me crave a real smoke really bad.
Too true! and btw Nicorette products don't work for me and their inhaler is a real joke, just made me crave a real smoke really bad.
Well i guess it was just one particular case. Sounds like my friend, who was trying to convince me that cigs are safer because the research has been done on them... LOL and ecigs are not.... those poor brainwashed people. HC made a law ... khe khe... I guess in situations like this, only travel with the amount of hardware and juice that you can write off. Will be crossing border with my 510 battery next time for sure
Although, the officer was amused by my screwdriver last time.Lol... i have big ... box of nicorette gum living in my glove compartment for the last 2 years for no reason... but i will use it for those who will be talking about nic being illegal and regulated by mysterious HC law
I honestly couldn't hear their conversation.. You gotta realize I'm in a bar watching playoff hockey. All I could see was her facial expression. The cop did come up to me and say
"Hey, technically you can use one of these inside, but let's make everyone happy and just refrain from using it for now. If the place wasn't so packed, I don't think there would be such a huge issue."
So I did. As said, I was in the mood to be difficult - I usually don't make such a ruckus.
I would like to clarify something though. That private property law - I believe it only applies if the property is owned, not leased. If it is leased, then the Landlord is the primary owner, and only they have the authority to supercede the law with what they deem appropriate in their establishment.
I would check into that... when a landowner leases property, they do confer rights and priveledges with it... just like me and my rental property... i'm not the landowner, but i have the right to eject someone from "my property". i forget the mumbo jumbo on it but basically for the term of the time i have paid for, i have bough limited rights to the property... the landowner can restrict what i can and cannot do(such as renovations and whatnot) but i have final say on who can enter my residence... even the landlord cannot enter my home without my permission unless they give me very specific notification. if they walk up and ask to enter... if they haven't given me 24 hours (the law here at least) then i can refuse them access to my home... even if they suspect that i've been committing illegal acts.
so if a bar "owner" is renting the space... they do have the right to eject you for no stated reason at all... The law states that they have the right to refuse service to anyone... the law also allows for you to sue them if they have ejected you and violated your basic human rights...
so, essentially, if a bar owner was a homophobe and decided they didn't want you on the property because you are gay they can legally eject you citing their right to refuse service to anyone for any reason and give 'no reason" and sadly the law applies... however, you can sue them for doing so on the basis of sexual orientation and you would win in court if you can show that the only reason was because you were gay, but if the police are called to enforce it because you refused, the police will still have to remove you from the property, even if they disagreed with it...
i've seen it done... the law is touchy... but they still can do it, even if they'll loose in the long run...
Just because I like plaaying devil's advocate... That's the thing, I wasn't asked to leave by the bar owner. I was spoken to by the manager. Now, if the manager's job description entails them to act as owner while the owner is away, ok maybe they win that one in the end. I don't claim to know about the finer details on that one.
The same sort of thing happened to me in a club, and right before the the bouncers tried to throw me out (for something completed unrelated to vaping), I simply said "if you don't get the owner here so I can speak to him, I'd be very careful about tossing me out the door." They stopped right in their tracks and looked at each other because they knew that I knew what I was talking about.
Most people don't believe that story, but I tend to stand up for my rights. It helps that I'm not a small guy and it's obvious I can hold my own if things ever came down to it.
... bar managers act on behalf of the owner when the owner is off the premises. He does not have the responsibilities of the owner but does have his authority, That is why managers are hired. Pfft!
And thus my earlier point is to let any manager be aware, you will be discussing the scenario with the owner. The owner then can refuse or allow...His/her choice. But it puts the flunky manager on alert, you will be discussing his actions with ownership.
Slows em down a little.
Face it. Some folks just downright hate smoke, and relate e-cigs to them. It's ignorance, but it's what we will have to stand against.
Slows em down a little.
Face it. Some folks just downright hate smoke, and relate e-cigs to them. It's ignorance, but it's what we will have to stand against.
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About 10 minutes later two cops come in the door. One of them is puffing away on a 510 as he walks up to her. I swear, that manager's face dropped like a STONE. I felt so bloody vindicated it was unreal.
Hmmmm. Has anyone ever seen an officer smoking on duty? I thought smoking on call was a big no-no. I imagine vaping would be considered the same thing...
While its good that you're standing up for yourself I tend to avoid confrontation when it comes to this. When i'm in plain sight of other people I dont vape where others can't smoke. That being said, I vape in my office all the time when nobody's around, but when i step out of my office and go around the cubicles i dont have a trail of vapor following me.
I've had a few people walk into my office while vaping and its just a pain in the ... to explain what it is every single time. The first time it happened it was our HR person and it was a pain in the ... to explain it to her.
My $0.02
I've had a few people walk into my office while vaping and its just a pain in the ... to explain what it is every single time. The first time it happened it was our HR person and it was a pain in the ... to explain it to her.
My $0.02
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