Yeah I vaped on a metro (trax we call them here) no one really seemed to make a big deal of it.
Funny Story about got the cops called on me for vaping in public
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I just thought it was ironic that the only one whining was the guard, the busses here are usually packed, guess he was envious since I saw the outline of a pack of smokes in his chest pocket... lol
Honestly, I'd hate to be in your situation if it did turn out a bit hairy.
I'm not one to sit around and wait on the cops while some old women draws a crowd to systematically scream at me, then have to explain things to the cops. In all honesty, that sounds like a huge waste of time, not to mention you are not only jepordizing your equipment and yourself but you also have the potential to put a negative mark on the big chalk board against e-cigs.
People can't hate something if they don't know what it is. I've noticed that they can however, even if it doesn't have anything to do with them.
The whole Rachael Ray thing is a good example.
It's the same logic as hating baseballs because you heard someone got hit with one.
Outlaw them.
....ing baseball players.
I'm not one to sit around and wait on the cops while some old women draws a crowd to systematically scream at me, then have to explain things to the cops. In all honesty, that sounds like a huge waste of time, not to mention you are not only jepordizing your equipment and yourself but you also have the potential to put a negative mark on the big chalk board against e-cigs.
People can't hate something if they don't know what it is. I've noticed that they can however, even if it doesn't have anything to do with them.
The whole Rachael Ray thing is a good example.
It's the same logic as hating baseballs because you heard someone got hit with one.
Outlaw them.
....ing baseball players.
I read this with great interest. As I see it, and nobody has yet mentioned this... the OP acted like a scofflaw jerk in the first place by blazing up an analog in a no-smoking area in the first place. He had already angered the woman, and I think justifiably so. He was breaking the law at the outset. Then, when he pulled out his PV, it would appear to anyone that he was trying to goad the woman into a response, a sort of "draw-the-line-in-the-sand" maneuver that was bound to upset her.
Sorry bud, but you were wrong and were being an antisocial jerk . And I don't really give a rip about how bad your employment situation is, and how much you think you have to lose. All that crap doesn't give you a pass on being a polite member of society. Just my POV.
Sorry bud, but you were wrong and were being an antisocial jerk . And I don't really give a rip about how bad your employment situation is, and how much you think you have to lose. All that crap doesn't give you a pass on being a polite member of society. Just my POV.
Although the OP did screw up by smoking an analog first, we all make mistakes! When I was in Saint Petersburg, Russia, I was in a subway station and lite up a cigarette. There were no no smoking signs in the area, only in the tunnel leading into the building. The cops came and were yelling at me and I had no idea about what. When they finally got their point across, I asked where the signs were telling me not to, by pointing around the building and no No Smoking signs. I put it out and apoliogized and the matter was dropped. Didn't itentionally violate their rules, just didn't see a sign in a huge building, that was partially open to the outside.
Recently I was in a sports bar (Denver) on a cold day having a drink, and was stepping outside to "vape" my PV and the bartender told me that I didn't have to go outside to use it, especially when there were only a few people in the bar. When I said that I just didn't want trouble with the police if they happened to walk in, she pointed at a guy in civilian clothes and said ask him! He was a cop that verified that they had received notice not to harrass ecigarette smokers that weren't "vaping" in the smoking area. A couple of the other people in the bar wanted to know all about them, so I spent quite awhile explaining them to them and even let them try them out (had extra cleaned and steriled carts with me). So at least, the word is getting out about them!
Recently I was in a sports bar (Denver) on a cold day having a drink, and was stepping outside to "vape" my PV and the bartender told me that I didn't have to go outside to use it, especially when there were only a few people in the bar. When I said that I just didn't want trouble with the police if they happened to walk in, she pointed at a guy in civilian clothes and said ask him! He was a cop that verified that they had received notice not to harrass ecigarette smokers that weren't "vaping" in the smoking area. A couple of the other people in the bar wanted to know all about them, so I spent quite awhile explaining them to them and even let them try them out (had extra cleaned and steriled carts with me). So at least, the word is getting out about them!
Agree Ciego that it's kind of hard to convince someone that a PV isn't smoking with the smell of a burning analog hanging in the air. The good news is it sounds like son et lumiere has since hung up the analogs, which is very positive.
ImJustAverage you are lucky. Russia would be a particularly good place to not get arrested!
Personally, I vape in outdoor "No Smoking" areas. When someone points out that there's no smoking tsk tsk, I smile wide and cheerfully (clearly enough for others to hear) say, "Great! cuz I quit smoking X number of months ago . . ." while holding up my eGo for them to visually see that I'm NOT holding a cigarette. It's enough to make them stop short to mentally regroup. I usually say nothing more, just pause to observe their wheels churning. Their mental adjustment results in a physical change and pleasant conversation or a head nod then follows. Amazing how many interesting conversations I've had with total strangers about vaping as an option for their friends or loved ones. There's a lot of ex-smokers out there who struggled to quit and are excited about something that could help others they care about. Everyone knows someone they wish wouldn't smoke. In short, for me, the result has always been a pleasant social interaction.
Not all conflict is bad. It's a small crack that I can politely navigate into to create a positive outcome. Drama is bad. I avoid drama. There's rarely a lasting positive result. If I make someone feel small and ridiculous while trying to explain the concept of a PV, they will always associate that negative feeling with vaping and never come around. That being said, a red brick is a red brick. Pick your battles and move on.
There's no excuse for bad manners. Vaping in the aisles at Wal-Mart at midnight or a half empty restaurant after dinner is fine. Blowing clouds of vapor in someone else's personal space without their permission is not. Though it may be legal, it's also rude. People don't react well to rude.
ImJustAverage you are lucky. Russia would be a particularly good place to not get arrested!
Personally, I vape in outdoor "No Smoking" areas. When someone points out that there's no smoking tsk tsk, I smile wide and cheerfully (clearly enough for others to hear) say, "Great! cuz I quit smoking X number of months ago . . ." while holding up my eGo for them to visually see that I'm NOT holding a cigarette. It's enough to make them stop short to mentally regroup. I usually say nothing more, just pause to observe their wheels churning. Their mental adjustment results in a physical change and pleasant conversation or a head nod then follows. Amazing how many interesting conversations I've had with total strangers about vaping as an option for their friends or loved ones. There's a lot of ex-smokers out there who struggled to quit and are excited about something that could help others they care about. Everyone knows someone they wish wouldn't smoke. In short, for me, the result has always been a pleasant social interaction.
Not all conflict is bad. It's a small crack that I can politely navigate into to create a positive outcome. Drama is bad. I avoid drama. There's rarely a lasting positive result. If I make someone feel small and ridiculous while trying to explain the concept of a PV, they will always associate that negative feeling with vaping and never come around. That being said, a red brick is a red brick. Pick your battles and move on.
There's no excuse for bad manners. Vaping in the aisles at Wal-Mart at midnight or a half empty restaurant after dinner is fine. Blowing clouds of vapor in someone else's personal space without their permission is not. Though it may be legal, it's also rude. People don't react well to rude.
The lady had a negative view of ecigarettes because she wanted to have a negative view. Old bat.
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