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GeekVape Zeus RTA

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  1. Jazzman

    Jazzman Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2013
    High Desert, CA
    I'm finding the Zeus X really easy to wick with no problem keeping up even with chain vaping. I'm running the Zeus X in single coil mode at 35watts and it's a great vape. This leads me to think it is a wicking problem if it takes long to saturate the coil with juice.

    When running single coil there is much less cotton. I'm using 4mm coil inner diameter so I have enough cotton to fill the deck cutouts and it's very easy to wick, and easily repeatable. I've re-wicked a few times already and tried the wick touching the bottom of the tank and just barely going past the juice openings. Both methods were equally as good vaping with no issues. So I'm thinking if yours isn't keeping up with the juice flow it is most likely too much cotton restricting the juice getting to the coil.

    If you are thinking about going to the single coil original Zeus, try setting the Zeus X up with a single coil first just to see if the vape improves for you. I'm very much liking the Zeus X this way and is my favorite RTA right now. Just a really good, flavorful vape that is easy to coil and wick. If you're a high wattage vaper I don't know how this will perform since I don't use it that way, but if you're a lower wattage vaper this is really good and the juice in the tank lasts a lot longer and the batteries do too.
     
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  2. hittman

    hittman ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    It's been my favorite for some time now. I've got six of the original zeus so far. I ordered a zeus x to try but I think it's lost in the mail. I'm in the middle of a paypal dispute right now so can't comment on how good the X works.
     
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  3. hiclass

    hiclass Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 11, 2016
    I don't even bother to try because I don't believe a tank designed for dual coil can also cope well with single coil needs.

    From the photo of Zeus X deck, I doubt a 3.5mm diameter coil can be used easily... because there could be not enough cotton to cover the big juice port.

    The point is, for single coil mode, why should I buy a tank that strictly requires me to use 4mm (or bigger) diameter coil? I might as well buy the original Zeus which is a dedicated single coil tank and at a lower price than the X.
     
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  4. BlackCRX

    BlackCRX Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 20, 2014
    Vancouver Canada
    Actually I bought the Zeus X dual coil because I loved the original single coil so much.
    I am strictly a single coil vaper and I was able to get a 3.5mm 5 wrap clapton (dual 26 core and 26 wrap) with no issues.
    Normally I comb out the cotton for other tanks but since this tank is dual coil, I just fluffed the cotton tails instead of combing them out
     
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  5. Buckeyevapen

    Buckeyevapen Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2016
    Totally agree. I thought the X would be everything the Zues was/is only better, but that hasn’t been my experience yet.
     
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  6. Berkiz

    Berkiz Full Member

    Apr 16, 2018
    Ukraine
    Since I'm a fan of RTA, imo Zeus X is one of the easiest RTA's about wicking (especially comparing to my previous Blitzen RTA). Maybe just a different cotton or different methods give a such result. I actually use Puff cotton which is great for me about price/quality
     
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  7. Buckeyevapen

    Buckeyevapen Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2016
    What setups have you found to be successful? Coil height? Size/make? Wicking style?
     
  8. Fidola13

    Fidola13 Prepper Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 20, 2017
    Boston
    A single coil setup for the Zeus X needs an id of 4 to 4.5 mm to get enough wicking material into the juice wells.

    DJLs suggested this in his review of the X. I agree with him the flavor is just as good compared to the dual coil setup.
     
  9. Fidola13

    Fidola13 Prepper Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 20, 2017
    Boston
    The Zeus X is not a difficult RTA to build. I don’t understand why some people are having trouble with it.

    Do you watch SEVERAL build videos before building it to see which coil size, placement and wicking are suggested.

    I’ve done this with almost EVERY RBA I’ve ever had and I’ve NEVER had a problem as long as I study several videos.
     
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  10. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2018
    Australia
    I've been using various 3.5id single coils in the Zeus x.
    I'm not struggling with wicking at all but I have been having a struggle nailing the vape experience I prefer with it.
    I achieved it a couple of days ago with a fused Clapton and at a wattage that's warmer than I would normally use.
     
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  11. Berkiz

    Berkiz Full Member

    Apr 16, 2018
    Ukraine
    My build is Staggered Fused Clapton 0.4x0.2x0.2 full kanthal (fecral) with 3 mm diametr.
    About coils placement: the distance between the bottom of the coil and the deck is about 1 mm. Also coils are out of the deck for 1 mm.
    Basically that means that the bottom of the coil must be on the level with the bottom line of the airflow, and coils must be placed closer to the airflow (than to the middle).
    About wicking: I cut the cotton strip, then take off the top and the bottom part of this strip and place it in the coil. Then using scissors I cut extra lenght of the strips. At the end using forceps I make the cotton a bit lighter (to not have problems with dry heats) and place the legs of the cotton into the cotton holes.
    As you can see it's a typical and easy way which you can match at least in the half of the wicking guide videos
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  12. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2018
    Australia
    Ive been using the Zeus single and Zeus x exclusively for the last few days and both as single coil attys.
    Both have a ss clapton 3mm id and both at 0.53ohms and TC vaping only.
    The single coil Zeus has become my preference by a long shot. The draw of the X just isnt quite right.
    Funny thing is, the zeus single hasnt been a favourite but after spending a couple of days with it Im not sure why it wasnt up there in my favourite daily use rta's. Its a really good single coil atty! Im really enjoying using it.
    Im going to spend another couple of days with the X and a couple of other top airflow dual coil attys and see if its comes out more favourably. I really want to find its sweet spot and make it work for me.
     
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  13. Fidola13

    Fidola13 Prepper Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 20, 2017
    Boston
    I agree with you @Jebbn the single coil Zeus has become my favorite RTA. I don’t have as much experience with RTAs since I mostly drip but the flavor is so good sometimes I forget that I’m using an RTA not a RDA.

    The only thing I would suggest would be trying the X with a bigger inner diameter coil. DJLs review recommended a 4mm or even 4.5 mm ID.

    I’m using a 4mm id rn and the flavor is good but I prefer the draw on the original Zeus.
     
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  14. Buckeyevapen

    Buckeyevapen Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2016
    Annnnnnnd random flood. Vaping fine for 4 days on dual SS Clapton’s, stuffed with cotton.

    Was vaping. Put it down for about 2 minutes. Tried to take a pull. Totally flooded. Not just a little. Totally.

    WTH.

    It’s like it looses its vacuum and dumps liquid. I’m going to disassemble, clean and put a set of the replacement O rings on.
     
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  15. hittman

    hittman ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Was that on the zeus x?
     
  16. Buckeyevapen

    Buckeyevapen Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2016
    Yes Zues X. My original Zues is my all day fav still. But I want the Zues X to join the party but alas see my previous post.
     
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  17. hittman

    hittman ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I’ve got a Zeus x on the way but am concerned as I hear more complaints of flooding.
     
  18. Buckeyevapen

    Buckeyevapen Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2016
    Well I’m very surprised at my experience. Considering how positive the original Zues has been.

    I haven’t given up on the X.

    On paper it should be an awesome vape. So I don’t get it.
     
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  19. Jazzman

    Jazzman Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2013
    High Desert, CA
    The only mechanical issue I can think of to cause this would be if somethings wrong with the bottom oring for the glass. If that was too thick it could hold the inner chamber a little high and allow juice to enter the chamber. But you would notice that rather quickly and it wouldn't take 4 days. But good idea to try new orings, couldn't hurt.

    As far as wicking, I cut the cotton just a bit longer than most and at an angle with the inner part of the cotton just a bit shorter than the outer part. This is so when the cotton is bent at the shoulder heading towards the deck the ends are even at the bottom. Unless the shoulder is bent tightly (don't) it takes more cotton length due to a longer distance to travel for the outside cotton. I then shove the cotton in the juice well until it is resting firmly on the hard deck of the base. Grab the cotton (gently) at the shoulder and pull it up just slightly so there are only some cotton wisps touching the hard deck and the shoulders are just a bit puffy. Not sure if that helps at all, but it works well and is very consistent both for single and dual coils for me. But like previously stated, if doing a single coil do 4.0mm (or more, I use 4mm) for best wicking results, it really benefits from the increased volume of cotton. I use 3.0mm for duals.

    Good luck with figuring it out. The vape is worth the effort when you get working right.
     
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  20. P3ch3

    P3ch3 Super Member

    Jan 31, 2019
    well, i guess i gotta get a zeus dual for cheap to complete the family, zeus single is an amazing one! and zeus X... is another amazing exponent!
    also, i truly hope people at @Geekvape_Official consider a mtl zeus one! we all want a new former RTA!

    Regards,
     
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