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[mrengles]

Who can tell me a bit about US custom?
- What amount can you import without taxes and duties?
- Is it better to leave the invoice out or to put it into the parcel?

You have to provide 3 invoices on the outside of the package. Any amount will be taxed (if done legally). Under $2500 USD will be exempt from needing any type of ITN numbers or declaration with customs. Make sure you are very clear the items are NOT for military use.

You can have the invoice total $1.00 and bill D&T to receiver...

Good Luck.

 

[Teach]

Who can tell me a bit about US custom?
- What amount can you import without taxes and duties?
- Is it better to leave the invoice out or to put it into the parcel?

Hi Uwe,

You might want to check out this Homeland Security ,Customs and Border Protection site that deals with Internet purchases. Might be good to know.

 

[mrengles]

Hi Uwe,

You might want to check out this Homeland Security ,Customs and Border Protection site that deals with Internet purchases. Might be good to know.

Good luck with that. You will be more confused after reading then before. The items you are importing are not restricted in any way. Just make sure to include 3 copies of the invoice on the outside of the package. Bill d&t to receiver.

Your carrier will be able to help fill out the air way bills if needed.

I do this for a living, only with military equipment... I know the import/export laws well and how to ship/receive a package legally.

Don't make it more then it need to be.

Good luck, shipping is the easy part, unless they are coming from north Korea or the middle east.

 

[jayvolt]

yup, I have shipped on both sides of the fence mren has it right. You might want to avoid the use of direct ecig terminology and opt for battery holder or vaporizer assembly but other than that keep it as simple as possible. Customs forms should be available at the carrier and as far as even my shipments from china, I have had no real issues in receiving.

 

[NatureBoy]

Considering this was a co-op and not a business venture, I think it's a mistake to treat shipping these packages as such.

I would keep it simple by using a generic description such as "battery holder", or "flash light extension" etc, and mark them with a low value, such as $25-35, and leave the invoice out.

There's no sense shipping them as though you're a retail business, costing people who receive these packages customs and import fees, taxes, etc.

 

[ukeman]

i'll put "rechargeable flashlight electronics" or something like that.

Considering this was a co-op and not a business venture, I think it's a mistake to treat shipping these packages as such.

I would keep it simple by using a generic description such as "battery holder", or "flash light extension" etc, and mark them with a low value, such as $25-35, and leave the invoice out.

There's no sense shipping them as though you're a retail business, costing people who receive these packages customs and import fees, taxes, etc.

 

[mrengles]

Considering this was a co-op and not a business venture, I think it's a mistake to treat shipping these packages as such.

I would keep it simple by using a generic description such as "battery holder", or "flash light extension" etc, and mark them with a low value, such as $25-35, and leave the invoice out.

There's no sense shipping them as though you're a retail business, costing people who receive these packages customs and import fees, taxes, etc.

It can't be done this way. 3 invoices must be with the package or it won't make it past custom in TENN. Co-op aside you payed for goods, and the manufacture/distributor is supplying them. Know matter how you want to look at it. Not to sound harsh, but if you don't like it, take it up with US Customs.

I mentioned in my first post about a $ value on the invoice, your fees will be cheap. The problem with this, if any package is lost, it can only be insured to the invoice value. Tai Pan would be risking a lot of money.

As far as what commodity code to use or description, they don't have one for e-cigs. It would be a battery holder, electronic components...

A flash light extension would be lying. I'm not about to give bad advise. Tai Pan asked and I told him what and how to do it legally. If he want to be dishonest thats on him.

He will have to do his own homework then.

 

[mrengles]

NatureBoy,

Your in Canada, anyways. You have your own customs to worry about, not US.

You will have your own d&t.

 

[NatureBoy]

I know where I live. It's the same bag of s*** with customs.

 

[Teach]

It can't be done this way. 3 invoices must be with the package or it won't make it past custom in TENN. Co-op aside you payed for goods, and the manufacture/distributor is supplying them. Know matter how you want to look at it. Not to sound harsh, but if you don't like it, take it up with US Customs.

I mentioned in my first post about a $ value on the invoice, your fees will be cheap. The problem with this, if any package is lost, it can only be insured to the invoice value. Tai Pan would be risking a lot of money.

As far as what commodity code to use or description, they don't have one for e-cigs. It would be a battery holder, electronic components...

A flash light extension would be lying. I'm not about to give bad advise. Tai Pan asked and I told him what and how to do it legally. If he want to be dishonest thats on him.

He will have to do his own homework then.

I agree, truth is the best course. good to have someone here who has experience!

 

[mrengles]

I know where I live. It's the same bag of s*** with customs.

Every country has import taxes.

 

[NatureBoy]

Every country has import taxes.

If the package is shipped commercially, which he doesn't have to do. But thanks for the lesson.

 

[mrengles]

If the package is shipped commercially, which he doesn't have to do. But thanks for the lesson.

He can send it as a gift. Your right but would be taking on the risk of shipping 500+ packages on his own. To save someone a few dollars and change.

I don't see how this is fair to Tai Pan at all. He's already taking on tremendous risk organizing this co-op.

And it's not a gift. Items were purchased from him. (at cost, but still a purchase of goods.)

 

[NatureBoy]

He seemed to be leaning in that direction, asking about how much to claim, if or not to include the invoice... it sounds like he's trying to do it the best way to save us extra costs, which is something a lot of us can appreciate these days.

If he claims full value on the form, marks it commercially, etc I'll likely get dinged close to $20 by Canada Customs... hardly a few bucks.

I'm not about to ..... about it either way. Whatever he decides to do is up to him. We have separate opinions on it obviously..

 

[mj64]

I doubt that i would characterize this transaction as a sale. If i ever have to characterize my expense for it I would call it a reimbursement. It is pretty much Tai Pan's call how he characterizes it from his end but I would not think he would want to characterize it as such. That has bearing on whether duty is owed, I believe.

 

[mrengles]

He's can also send them out as samples.

With $0.00 cost. But still has to provide 3 copies of an invoice.

Otherwise customs is going to give him a ruff time.

Invoice must state the items are samples.

 

[VapRon]

"Invoice must state the items are samples"

Thats what I always do. I ship to Germany though. So do not know if that makes a difference.

 

[UpInTheCut]

How would you go about paying the D and T's to receive your item? Where would you pay it at a physical location, online? Would it still get shipped to your address? I don't really know much about import taxs/duties...
-Up

 

[jayvolt]

either way if any of you are comfy with the idea of a lost package with NO WAY TO BE REIMBURSED go the sample route or lie about costs personally I like a little reassurance. I have seen too many packages come from overseas that were mislabeled or had the wrong prices on customs forms to want to risk it. After a few of you lose some cash you might change your tune.

Customs costs should have been thought about BEFORE buying, it is a fact of life when ordering. Sending the item person to person or non commercially might be a little different, but is it worth the risk?

Natureboy I am sure he knew you knew where you were from. He is offering advise based on his experience and it is good info. Again if some people are ok with the risk thats fine, but ultimately tai and the people he is working with are the ones that will be asked to refund, so he is the one that should make the choice.

 

[VapRon]

I am fine with the extra cost.
My shipping experience is anyway only on a private family or friend base. Nothing like this.