Germany modifies smoking ban

[emcee child]

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The fact that pot got mentioned on this thread .., i was wondering can one vaporise THC with an eciggy? anyone tried it? thanks.

These kind of questions are against forum rules mate.
please check the rules before posting.

 

[Mr.Darcy]

if people dont approve of it,than what i want to know is-why bump it up again?
its a month old...

 

[Kate]

Lol, you made me laugh Darcy, that was exactly what I was thinking.

 

[emcee child]

if people dont approve of it,than what i want to know is-why bump it up again?
its a month old...

Didn't read the date.. my bad.. also if it's over a month old.. why wasn't it taken down by a mod?

 

[katink]

Well, to give an answer: it has been tried in my country, and answer that came out of it: no way, not possible. Thank the good lord for that, we have enough silly arguments against e-smoking going around the world as it is. (And now indeed: please let this thread go down again...)

 

[smoking gnu]

Hi does anyone know where to get empty classic carts from? I’m going to have a go with some juice and thought it would be nice to have some clean carts. Or is it possible to clean old carts?

 

[Denni]

Hi does anyone know where to get empty classic carts from? I’m going to have a go with some juice and thought it would be nice to have some clean carts. Or is it possible to clean old carts?

Off topic, but here goes: e-cigs.co.uk (Simon/Smokster) sells empty carts. You can rinse and reuse old carts (refer to relevant threads) or simply top up your existing carts, exchanging them before they get clogged. I wouldn't rinse mine out with tapwater again (limescale), but I'll squeeze the juice out of the old wool to try new flavours.

Be careful as nicotine may be absorbed through the skin.

 

[m1sterlurk]

We actually have a pretty rational smoking "ban" in my city.

Smoking is allowed only if the restaurant or bar is 19 and up, unless they have a completely seperate room for smokers (completely walled off from rest of building except for doors).

 

[Taelon]

The ruling upheld a complaint by the owners of two small bars in Berlin and a nightclub operator [...]

The Constitutional Court said the rules must be redrawn by the end of 2009 and that, until then, smoking must be allowed in bars and restaurants of less than 80sq ft. As most of Germany's regional states have similar smoking laws the ruling is likely to set a precedent.
©2008 Johnston Press Digital Publishing

This is one of the worst rulings ever from this court which inhibits the fight against cancer and counterforces the needed education against poisonous smoking killing 100.000s every year, because of the claim of the nightclub prostitution mafia 8-o and idiot pubs (Don't confuse with British pubs, only the absolute lowest class of Germans (which need education about poisonous tobacco at most!) goes for a drink (to get drunk) there, they're really ugly wholes) ? really scandalous! But we're used to that "care" for the lowest class Germans from the BRD governments since ever

My country is one of the most overregulated in the world but if it comes down to reasonable things todo like a 55MPH speed limit on German highways or fight against smoking, regulation always fails completely and it shows up how disadvanced according to international justice standards the BRD Mid-Age (still based on many NAZI laws) justice system is. All claim charges against Tobacco Companies failed here, lousy. U.S. Justice System is much more civilized and advanced.

Hopefully the Non-Smokers Lobbies and Doctor's will have this awful ruling broken by EU courts soon. Germany violates the EU anti-smoke ruling again and again.

 

[devonschmoker]

In CA at least, they can set up a ventillated room, BUT it has to be an entirely owner-operated establishment, since they can't "make" employees work in that environment. There's only 1 cigar room in SF that I am aware of.

I was in a night club in downtown SF a few months ago and I was standing in a smoking room that was quite large, the club was very large too. I doubt it was owner op. Did they change the laws since october?

Also 80Sq Ft is VERY small. It is smaller than my bedroom! the room in question is 8' X 10' an avrage bedroom is 12' X 10'.

 

[leaford]

I was in a night club in downtown SF a few months ago and I was standing in a smoking room that was quite large, the club was very large too. I doubt it was owner op. Did they change the laws since october?

Also 80Sq Ft is VERY small. It is smaller than my bedroom! the room in question is 8' X 10' an avrage bedroom is 12' X 10'.

Well, there may be something I don't know about the smoking laws, it has been known to happen from time to time that I'm wrong.

But I think it's more likely that they were violating the law, as several bars I know of do, since any loophole that allowed clubs to operate a smoking room would be likely to have made the news at some point.

 

[D245064j]

Shame we could not get this in the UK then my local would still be open

 

[breno]

Small bars exempted from ban on smoking

31 July 2008

GERMANY'S highest court ruled yesterday that small bars and restaurants should be exempted from regional smoking bans.
It said the bans were unconstitutional because they "seriously interfered" with the livelihoods of these businesses.

Smoking bans came into effect individually in most of Germany's 16 federal states at the start of the year.

The fact that the laws allow bars and restaurants to create closed-off smoking areas in effect put small establishments that lacked the space for these at an unfair disadvantage, the court said.

The ruling upheld a complaint by the owners of two small bars in Berlin and a nightclub operator in the state of Baden-Württemberg, who argued that the legislation had put their businesses at risk.

The Constitutional Court said the rules must be redrawn by the end of 2009 and that, until then, smoking must be allowed in bars and restaurants of less than 80sq ft. As most of Germany's regional states have similar smoking laws the ruling is likely to set a precedent.

Last Updated: 30 July 2008 10:52 PM
Source: The Scotsman
Location: Edinburgh
©2008 Johnston Press Digital Publishing

Ha ha oh the irony, you fought against the Germans so you would be free.
They lost and they are free you won and you lost you freedom.

Sweet isn't it?

Where did it all go wrong? 8-o

 

[ProtoType]

Ha ha oh the irony, you fought against the Germans so you would be free.
They lost and they are free you won and you lost you freedom.

Sweet isn't it?

Where did it all go wrong? 8-o

Well USA and the allies fought for the freedom of the Jews and the other targeted minorities in Germany. Also, it wasn't in our best interest to let Hitler and Stallon rule the world.

But I definitely understand your point. Pretty funny.