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GG4S (monkey style)

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  1. 67style

    67style Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 23, 2014
    Germany
    Ladies and Gentlemans, here comes GG4S



    Once again a Great Mod, enjoy ;)

    GG4S for sealed atomizers (Tilemahos AD, most drippers, some atomizers with air control)

    very small
    it takes the length of the battery so we dont spend even 1 mm more than the apropriate length
    no gaps with any battery/batteries, only the one for pushing the button
    accepts all 18650 and 2x18350 batteries
    0,07 voltage drop with 1,5 ohm resistance
    no plating on any of its components
    direct connection to the battery
    it accepts every 510 atomizer. You don’t care any more how far the center pole of an atomizer sticks out of the 510 threads
    locking mechanism
    soft lock
    adjustable button path only by screwing more the unit
    side venting holes
    easy to push button with palm or finger
    button can be pushed at all angles
    it doesnt fire in vertical position but it still has a soft button
    align unit's engraving to match atomizer's engraving
    very easy and rare cleaning
    its made of only 5 machined pieces
    its made of very big pieces so you can handle them very easy and also you cant lose them
    SS construction that hits almost like a copper one (button is made of brass)
    it accepts kick module with a 18500 battery

    length 76 mm without atomizer and 77,5 mm with atomizer on it
    width 22mm

    price 79 euros






    GG4S for unsealed atomizers (Tilemahos regular, some drippers, many atomizers without air control)

    very small
    it takes the length of the battery so we dont spend even 1 mm more than the apropriate length
    no gaps with any battery/batteries, only the one for pushing the button
    accepts all 18650 and 2x18350 batteries
    0,07 voltage drop with 1,5 ohm resistance
    no plating on any of its components
    it accepts every 510 atomizer. You don’t care any more how far the center pole of an atomizer sticks out of the 510 threads
    locking mechanism
    soft lock
    adjustable button path only by screwing more the unit
    side venting holes
    easy to push button with palm or finger
    button can be pushed at all angles
    it doesnt fire in vertical position but it still has a soft button
    align unit's engraving to match atomizer's engraving
    very easy and rare cleaning
    its made of only 5 machined pieces
    its made of very big pieces so you can handle them very easy and also you cant lose them
    SS construction that hits almost like a copper one
    it accepts kick module with a 18500 battery
    air control
    removable and automatically adjustable center post
    steady on tables in horizontal position

    length 80 mm without atomizer and 81,5 mm with atomizer on it
    width 22mm

    price 89 euros

    About assembling
    1. While we assemble the GG4S, first screw the button center post to the button before put button to the brass body.

    2. First screw the battery (not very hard, only until you feel a nice resistance) and then screw the lock against cap. That way GG4S will stay solid and battery will not compressed at all.

    3. An extra "Side Button Pin" could improve the conductivity but it's not necessary because the volt drop is already 0,1volt with a 0,6 resistance.



    Conductivity issue
    1. Your button center pin became short because of the huge cleaning. You can put a thinner o-ring inside the brass body or uncsrew 1 turn the button center pin. If thats not enough then do the 2 too.

    2. Unscrew 1/2 of a turn the side pin

    3. Watch out your battery. Has to be flat on its negative pole. NOT to be concave.



    Hot button

    1. DONT squeeze the battery a lot.

    2. Clean the center pin, the inside surface of the button and the outside of the brass body where button touches it, with mesh.



    Stuck button
    Unscrew 1/2 of a turn the side pin



    Use the lock option
    1. Lock GG4S by keeping the button and screw the lock

    2. Unlock GG4S by keeping either the button or the atomizer cap and unscrew the lock



    Tips and Tricks
    1. If you want to hear a nice "click" when you push the button, put the spring upside down

    2. If you like a shorter button path, put a 16x1,6 o-ring instead of the 17x1,5 that GG4S carries
     
  2. Laniere

    Laniere Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    Prato - Italy
  3. zuTma

    zuTma Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 22, 2010
    Croatia, Zagreb
    I like it :) Only sorry he couldn't make that second button to work but regardless, this looks like one very good mod and with very small drop :) easy to maintain too and so damn small!
    ETA? :D
     
  4. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    Thank you very much 67 for posting the video. It took 3 hours to upload and I couldnt wait, so I went to sleep lol

     
  5. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    thats a critical picture Lan! Thank you for posting it! :)
     
  6. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    Thank you Zu, I am glad you like it. I really believe that I did my very best here. As for ETA, I will be able to tell you tomorrow :)
     
  7. zuTma

    zuTma Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 22, 2010
    Croatia, Zagreb
    Like is small word here ;) I can't wait to have it!
    I couldn't hear on video, any plans for 18350/18500?
     
  8. JMBH

    JMBH Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 2, 2014
    Madrid , Spain
    Great Job Imeo ! I really like it ! PERFECT compact front button mod. I will get it with the AFC cap so i can use my standard penelope's and tilemahos . Also like the way you showed in video brass combination AFC ring and button . Just guessing .. it won't be difficult to adjust the main brass tube to fit my favorite 18500 bat . right ? or maybe u will make them ?:) :thumbs:
     
  9. Aal_

    Aal_ Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 5, 2012
    Greece
    Congrats imeo, that seems like a big winner! I can't believe the voltage drop. Great engineering!
     
  10. Yaya

    Yaya Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Imeo, you did not say if will be VIR compatible. That would be a great thing.:2c:
     
  11. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    its so small that if we make it for 18350 battery you will not be able to keep it in your hands Zu lol. You will cover with your fingers the holes of the AD control or the holes of the atomizer AD control. But we can make it for 18500 if you agree
     
  12. zuTma

    zuTma Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 22, 2010
    Croatia, Zagreb
    I agree. let's do it :)
     
  13. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    Thank you JM:)
    for 18500 battery we need a new brass body and a lock. Or a plastic fake battery like the one we made for GGTB, 4-5 years ago
     
  14. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    Thank you Aal:)

    yes, I do believe that this is the king of the front button mods!
     
  15. Runju

    Runju Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 22, 2012
    Norway
    when can we buy this?
     
  16. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    Also I forgot to mention that AD ring has 4 cuts around it so GG4S doesnt roll on tables
     
  17. Frillo

    Frillo Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 3, 2013
    Roma
    I love it :wub::hubba:

    I'm using only 18350 for keep my devices smaller, but this is too small ...
     
  18. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    All the features of GG4S are below.

    very small
    it takes the length of the battery so we dont spend even 1 mm more than the apropriate length
    no gaps with any battery/batteries, only the one for pushing the button
    accepts all 18650 and 2x18350 batteries
    0,07 voltage drop with 1,5 ohm resistance
    no plating on any of its components
    direct connection to the battery or not
    air control or not
    removable and automatically adjustable center post
    locking mechanism
    soft lock
    adjustable button path only by screwing more the unit
    side venting holes
    easy to push button with palm or finger
    button can be pushed at all angles
    steady on tables in horizontal position if you buy the air control version
    it doesnt fire in vertical position but it still has a soft button
    align unit's engraving to match atomizer's engraving
    very easy and rare cleaning
    its made of only 5 pieces
    its made of very big pieces so you can handle them very easy and also you cant lose them
    SS construction that hits almost like a copper one
    price 79 euros




    length 76 mm without atomizer and 77,5 mm with atomizer on it
    width 22mm
     
  19. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    very soon Run. I wanted to surprise you this time, so I didnt make the video 2 months before sales but only 1 week before. That means that e-smokeguru will have it on his store in 1 week or less and Gino and Rob in about 15 days or less
     
  20. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    no it will not my dear. Its made to be only mechanical and I based all my thoughts on making the best mech front button available. I didnt want to add length to make it compatible with VIR.
     

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