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GG4S (monkey style)

Discussion in 'The GG' started by 67style, Dec 11, 2014.

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  1. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    i am sorry that I am still not ready Black. I had a lot of problems with Proteus electronics. I am solving them slow. When I will be ready I will announce it on a new thread. You will not miss it
     
  2. blackwater

    blackwater Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 19, 2011
    NH
    Ok. Thanks Imeo.
     
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  3. BTHUNDER

    BTHUNDER Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    IMEO ... I am not sure - but is there a way to solve the problem of some flathead batteries that don't connect that well in GG4S ?? as always - thank you for your ideas !!! Hope you guys out there had a safe transition into an even better - greater new year !!! Have a good one !!!
     
  4. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    what is the issue exactly my friend BT?
     
  5. BTHUNDER

    BTHUNDER Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I think that there is too much plastik on the + side pole ... I experienced that "it feels" like I have to press the button harder (as I found out later) ... I took everything apart many times cleaned the threads with zippo - white gasoline ... and the rest as shown by you with mesh - I tried to screw the screw in the button not as much to make it stand out more ... but it didn't get better sometimes it even did not make contact ... until by chance last time I took another battery where in the same GG4S it worked just great ... so i checked all my batteries ... and some seem to have more or higher plastic on the +pole - ... can you actually rasp it away a little with mesh - does that make sense or do you have any other ideas ? or should i just recycle the battery and get a new one ?

    in any case - THANK YOU again my friend ... !!!!
     
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  6. gekka

    gekka Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2015
    Germany
    Maybe you can change the top O-ring with a thinner one. Or you buy the GG4S AD Atomizer Cap. Then you have a pin with better battery contact.
     
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  7. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    The solution that gekka provided is good BT. But first, can you please tell me if you clean the brass body where button come in touch with it?
     
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  8. BTHUNDER

    BTHUNDER Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I will try to find a thinner O-ring ... but I guess since I have both the AD and non AD version ... I have the problem on both versions ... so it must be something different ... and the funny thing is that it doesn't happen with another battery ... (the problem occurred with a purple efest and it worked with a green sony konion - both Flat)

    IMEO ... I clean the brass body always on the outside with mesh - as you showed it in your video ... or did you mean to clean it inside ... I also clean the button out & inside as you showed us as well as the screw ...

    THANK YOU guys ... I hope I don't bug you too much ... but I thought maybe somebody else might experience a similar problem and this could help solve it ...:glug:

    and since I am in asking mode here - i might stretch my luck :) :) :) IMEO do the Tilemahos V2 or V2 plus tanks 21mm fit on the tilemahos V1 ???

    and by the way IMEO ... did I mention that I L-O-V-E the GG4S & Tilemahos combination ??? Have a great evening !!!
     
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  9. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    Thank you BT! Enjoy the combo buddy :)

    No, the tanks are not interchangeable because of the refiling cap and mouthpiece. But I think that if you change the refilling cap and the mouthpiece too then it will fit

    As for GG4S: Is the side pin screwed well?
     
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  10. gekka

    gekka Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2015
    Germany
    Or Bthunder you may have a round battery. Can you check that?
     
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  11. NandyDC

    NandyDC Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Aug 25, 2009
    San Juan, PR
    Talking about the GG4S and batts my problem is the opposite as BThunder, with some batts the mod fire with out pressing the button. Recently I got some Orbtronics SX33 and are useless with the GG4S because of this. The Sony VTC4 and Samsung works perfect for me.
     
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  12. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    Recently I bought the same batteries Nandy and I noticed the same thing on one of them. I looked better and I saw that the negative pole of the battery was sticking out of the plastic that negative pole has around. Thats a problem because battery sits lower on GG4S. The solution is a fatter o-ring. It seems that orbtronic batches are not the same all the time
     
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  13. mclhead

    mclhead Full Member

    Mar 16, 2013
    long island, ny
    Hey, Bthunder...I was having the same issue and tried all the solutions noted above with no luck. I ordered a new center bottom-contact screw to see if it would make any difference.

    The replacement screw was longer on the threaded portion, and the head was longer also. Maybe we're the two unlucky customers who got bad negative contact screws. Order a replacement screw, it may do the trick.
     
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  14. mrZoSo

    mrZoSo Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 24, 2014
    GA, USA
    I too had the same issue a little while back. My older Orbtronics flat tops worked fine. I got a couple new ones and the GG4s would fire without pushing the button. Seems like Orbtronics has changed something with there production or cells they use. The negative side is now flush with the plastic sleeve and the outer corner is more rounded. See the picture here - GG4S (monkey style)

    Fatter o-ring is the solution. I used these in my GG4S's and it works fine now with the new Orbtronics flat tops.
    GG4S (monkey style)
     
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  15. gekka

    gekka Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2015
    Germany
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  16. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    Its not that mc. Its the fact that center pin got shorter from cleaning. Thats why the new screws are longer now. The last much more now :)
     
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  17. BTHUNDER

    BTHUNDER Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    THANK YOU IMEO & all you guys out there trying to help ... I guess I have to try some more things now ...

    @gekka ... what do you mean with "round" battery ??? this problem occurred with the regular purple efest 18650 / 35A flat-top cells ...

    @mrZoSo ... which size of O-ring would you suggest ??? does anyone of you guys have a source of where to purchase spare O-rings ???

    @mclhead ... yes I will also try to order some new spar pins and screws ... just in case :)

    @imeothanasis ... IMEO ... of course I screwed the sidepin tight ... I always doublecheck ... I guess I will put everything apart and try again ... as well as try to get some different sizes of orings to try ... AND ... to be on the safe side :) get some new batteries as well :) :) :)

    THANK YOU everybody very much for trying to help ... as my german friend @breminator always says ... you never walk alone ... and that's what I really appreciate and what I am grateful for in the GG family ... CHEERS guys :) !!!
     
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  18. BTHUNDER

    BTHUNDER Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    ahhhhhh ... i need to tell my girlfriend that "I was cleaning too much" ... I can hear her laughing already :) :) ... but that could be ... maybe I was cleaning too intensive :)

    gee ... I need to check vassilis site for spares :) :) :) :)
     
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  19. imeothanasis

    imeothanasis Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2009
    Athens, Hellas
    thats exactly how my orbtronic is Mr. I had the same issue. My thought is an o-ring that is 2mm in width but smaller in internal diameter than GG4S tube (GG4S tube is at 18,6mm, so we need an o-ring at 14mm internal hole and 2mm in width). That way it will have room to expand when battery is inside and battery will be able to push it more.
     
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  20. gekka

    gekka Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2015
    Germany
    I had a batch of no-name batteries where 2 of 10 batteries doesn't work. The negative pole was not flat, so the pin makes only contact in a very small area.
     
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