GG's surface imperfections

[imeothanasis]

GG is a very clever product.
GG is a very beautiful product
GG is a full options product
GG is a HAND MADE product!

I have some people asking me about some inperfections on its surface!

Guys, I am not a factory, I work on a lathe and I love my work. I love making the best PV in the world and I am sure that you love it too.
I am trying all the time to bring you the best options, to share with you my best ideas, to ask you what you want to see on a GG, to serve you as you deserve.

But asking me why GG has some very small marks on it or a tiny like hair abrasion is a little crazy to my opinion.

Handmade products are beautiful and we buy them for some reason. If our reason is only the surface then GG is not for all people. Maybe it will be for all people when I will make them in China.

I want you to know that I do my best all the time. So if anyone thinks that GG is not for him he can just pass it.

I will also stop making shiny GGs because of this. I will make them in another way so noone will compalin again.


Friendly

Imeo

 

[imeothanasis]

I also forgot that old GG customers need more parts to use the new AFS. Those parts are 9 and the one of them is a little expensive. I dont want to earn any money from those parts even if its a little crazy to send parts like this but I said it by mistake so I have to keep my promise for one more time. So The AFS for old customers has to be 20 euros more. Its an update from witch I had to earn something but I will not for sure.

 

[Lisaf01]

Imeo, I don't understand what you mean in your second post

 

[mikecyber]

I will also stop making shiny GGs because of this.

Whoa. Please do not let the ignorance of a few ruin the product. Every business in existence has unhappy customers. Why? Because there will always be people who are unhappy. I suspect that the majority of your customers are extremely happy with your product, and do not mind any minor imperfections.

I also forgot that old GG customers need more parts to use the new AFS. Those parts are 9 and the one of them is a little expensive. So The AFS for old customers has to be 20 euros more.

The new AFS is not a revision, it is a complete redesign. I expected my current GG to not fit, and expected to buy a new GG when I buy the new AFS. You have gone above and beyond the call of duty, by finding a way to adapt the current GG's. Charging money for the adapter pieces is the right thing to do.

 

[harpo]

GG is a very clever product.
GG is a very beautiful product
GG is a full options product
GG is a HAND MADE product!

I have some people asking me about some inperfections on its surface!

Guys, I am not a factory, I work on a lathe and I love my work. I love making the best PV in the world and I am sure that you love it too.
I am trying all the time to bring you the best options, to share with you my best ideas, to ask you what you want to see on a GG, to serve you as you deserve.

But asking me why GG has some very small marks on it or a tiny like hair abrasion is a little crazy to my opinion.

Handmade products are beautiful and we buy them for some reason. If our reason is only the surface then GG is not for all people. Maybe it will be for all people when I will make them in China.

I want you to know that I do my best all the time. So if anyone thinks that GG is not for him he can just pass it.

I will also stop making shiny GGs because of this. I will make them in another way so noone will compalin again.


Friendly

Imeo

I also forgot that old GG customers need more parts to use the new AFS. Those parts are 9 and the one of them is a little expensive. I dont want to earn any money from those parts even if its a little crazy to send parts like this but I said it by mistake so I have to keep my promise for one more time. So The AFS for old customers has to be 20 euros more. Its an update from witch I had to earn something but I will not for sure.

The GGs are beautiful so don't let a few people piss on your parade. These things are a work of art and all of us that own them love them. If the people complaining don't like what you make send them on their way. You have a reputation all over the forums of making some of the finest PVs in the industry so don't let a few bad apples spoil your day.


Now what additional parts are you talking about? Can you show us some pictures?

 

[urbanite]

I'm quite happy with the imperfections... hah... this way when I make more of my own on it, they are harder to see

and I sure make a lot of imperfections as I never put my GG in a pouch or anything... just my pant pocket...

 

[imeothanasis]

Mike, Harpo and urba, thanks for understanding what I am trying to do with GG. I am happy that there are people like you that really have the mind to see beyond the surface. When other people will just look their shiny PV trying to make it work, GG users will vape the GG with a shiny smile in their faces!

I am also trying to think my old customers. I always count on them. I take care of them more than the new ones that I dont know who they are until they become friends too.

And I think that any PV out there that the only that can do is bringing problems to its owners, it has to be at least shiny!

There is no need to speak about GG, we all know what I am trying to do with it.

To speak the truth I never liked the shiny style and I had no intention to make GGs like this. I did it because some friends here asked for it. Many others had the opossite opinion. Maybe I will deside on my own at the next batch.


Lisa, the older customers need the new connector-collector-CR system to attach on it the AFS. Lets say that its the new GG cap that is needed.

 

[Zaiden]

Let me put my thoughts out there on all of this. I personally don't like the shiny GGTS. I have the older model and my friend has the shiny one...and I much prefer mine over his. However, I honestly don't care that much about how it looks, instead I focus on how it performs. I would MUCH rather see a top-end model..above and beyond what the current GGTS is today. If money was no object, what could you come up with Imeo? I know I'm not the only one who really says that money is no object if it exceeds all my expectations and lasts me a lifetime. I would like to see a certain metal used that almost never tarnishes and other top-end improvements/enhancements. This along with accessories such as a custom made battery with huge MAH rating, custom built atomizers with replaceable coils to change voltages on the fly and so on.. Instead of talking about imperfections, let's discuss the ultimate GGTS and put a price on it. My wallet is already out and waiting. We could jump on the High Definition bandwagon naming convention. LONG LIVE THE GGTSHD!

 

[imeothanasis]

Let me put my thoughts out there on all of this. I personally don't like the shiny GGTS. I have the older model and my friend has the shiny one...and I much prefer mine over his. However, I honestly don't care that much about how it looks, instead I focus on how it performs. I would MUCH rather see a top-end model..above and beyond what the current GGTS is today. If money was no object, what could you come up with Imeo? I know I'm not the only one who really says that money is no object if it exceeds all my expectations and lasts me a lifetime. I would like to see a certain metal used that almost never tarnishes and other top-end improvements/enhancements. This along with accessories such as a custom made battery with huge MAH rating, custom built atomizers with replaceable coils to change voltages on the fly and so on.. Instead of talking about imperfections, let's discuss the ultimate GGTS and put a price on it. My wallet is already out and waiting. We could jump on the High Definition bandwagon naming convention. LONG LIVE THE GGTSHD!

Thats what I am talking about Zai! The new inventions! And if I really had no problem with money and time and you hadnt this problem too, I would have done many things that I have in mind. I already had 2 new ideas today about GG but how easy is for me to make them real? Its not easy at all if you think that I work 23 hours a day to assemble the first 100 units, to package them, to try not to forget anything to my sellers, to check all of them if they work properly, to start assemble the next batch, to make some more parts on lathe that I forgot, to send them to laser, to shine them, etc.


If money was not a problem , GG would be different. Not too much different but it would had some more options like a removable button. It looks easy and cheap but its not. I had made it in past but cost didnt let me produce it. I had other ideas too, like a battery as you said. I talked to Siemens for it and they told me that they need more than 100.000 euros to make something special for me. Also a German factory told me that they can make bartteries for me but I had to buy 1.000.000 of them.
I wanted to make my own voltage regulator, my own semicontactor metal, my own atomizer without a resistance, and some more things. But money are the biggest limitation. Time of course would be not a problem because you can buy time with money!


Thats why I dont bother myself with surface. I dont want to spend my time to useless things. GG has an already shiny surface and its more than ok. If I had spend my time for the surface then GG would be still a simple battery holder as all the other PVs. Maybe the best one without wires but still a battery holder

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me Zai and I want to send again a big thanks to Mice, Harpo and urba for the big support

 

[grimmer255]

The GG is not painted so little marks is normal when assembling and 99% of any gashes that are made can be buffed out. Just takes a little rubbing and some elbow grease to work it out. And Imeo just doesn't have to the time to buff out the GG's.

Keep doing what you are doing Imeo, and don't worry about it. Some people just has to have everything so perfect. And in time with using the GG they will realize that scratches is just going to happen.

 

[Zaiden]

Imeo, I think you might be underestimating your customers. I think if you took a poll, nearly everyone here would have no problem with extra costs if it meant a better GGTS. Put together your thoughts and everyone on this forum can throw in ideas to improve upon them. Take the final list and get a price. I can guarantee you will have people that will spend the cash. I'll even do a non-refundable pre-order so you know that I will be buying the GGTSHD. Cash upfront will give you the motivation and guarantee that everyone will be buying these new units. So, what do you say? A poll and specific thread should be in order to make this happen.

 

[yaks1974]

IMO the minor imperfections introduced during the 'hand made' manufacturing process make each GG unit individual and unlike mass produced units no two are the same. Imeo, I don't really care about shiny or dull, if it's adding too much to your production time leave them dull or make a small batch shiny charge extra for them. Imeo, I know your a perfectionist but you are not a machine and your family needs some of your time as well. As for the people complaining, it's impossible to please everybody, the GG speaks for itself anyway!

 

[Stormynights]

All of my GG items are perfect. I am sure my next ones will be too.

 

[keon718nyc]

I love my GG's! Don't matter what they look like becouse they work like the beasts they are. I use my #5 GGTS all day and night. My other ones sit staring but happy and shined. I collect my GG's. Have over $1000 invested in them and i dont care if they come covered in black i will continue to purchase all Imeo's products even if im broke and down to my last penny!

 

[littlewierdo]

So, Im just curious, if you didnt have to shine or buff them, this would be alot less labor involved which would make it faster to produce and lower the price, right? Do you happen to have a unit that has not been polished or engraved that has all your latest enhancements that you could take a quick picture of? I would buy it!! I personally dont like polish as I hate fingerprints and the units usually end up too smooth making it easier for it to slip out of my hand while driving.

Seriously, I would buy a non polished unit if you have one that is all pimped out with all your latest innovations.

I say bring it!!

 

[ggero]

I think some people have no understanding about the Imeo`s work ... Some of them maybe are jealous, some of them maybe want to make troubles and some of them want to have the best vaping machine at the market with as less as possible money ( if its possible without money !!!) ...
Do you know how difficult is for someone who works almost alone to make changes to his production line because someone wanted something different from the original plan ? You think that Imeo is a huge factory with 100 workers ? ... I know that he tries always for the best to pleased every old or new customer but .... all things have a limit ...Ok...Imeo is been paid for the job..But who can pay the hours he spend for thinking and producing ?Or the time that he does not play with his little kids because he is at the ECF looking for customer problems.....You can easy say that it is his choise ...

I would like to have a magician for my own and ask things from him...Hei little magician...Please make this think for me .....please make that think for me ...Make it for me and If I like it I will buy it ..If not, I do not care ...Who cares anyway ?

In conclusion I think that the GG is the best pv at the market..If you like it, buy it ..If not... do not buy it...!!!
I want to say a BIG THANKS to Imeo for what he has done so far ..For me they are enough ...Imeo you are doing a good work...Do it as you know


p.s. Sorry for my huge post

 

[emonty]

Imeo,

you and your family shine and should enjoy the ride!!!
I am happy that you will forget about this shining, think of your health!
Shiny stuff in this world is for people who are dull ;-)

 

[clyde2801]

Huh. I didn't know gg's were hand made, and didn't realize what was involved in their manufacture. Being self centered, I almost thought Imeo was talking about ME since i did quibble a bit about my first ggts in my first review due to the ridges in it (which a jeweler friend buffed out). What I didn't like about it was that they caught dirt, etc., easily. A minor scratch or imperfection, piffle on that.

I didn't think there was anything wrong with his first design of the AFS for GGTS. I'm liking the crap out of it right now, heh-heh. I've got four or five 3rd gen mods right now, but the ggts-afs is what I always come back to. What appears to be impressive about the production model is that he didn't just slap a smaller collection tank on it, but reworked and improved the design in a very short period of time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like imeo's being a little bit defensive about charging extra for the additional parts to bring prior versions of the ggts up to the newest model. If he is, he shouldn't be. The new parts allow for additional functionality, like an adjustable draw. This would be an upgrade to the existing model. I'm happy to be given the choice to pay extra for the new features; other manufacturers would have expected me to just buy a whole new model. Both of my existing ggts'es work exactly as advertised when I bought them.

Finally, I can't believe Imeo spends so much time on the boards; it's almost like I can post his name three times in a thread and he instantly appears like Beetlejuice. It's also become a sort of tell...I can tell when he's working on something in the lab if he hasn't responded to every thread here when I pull the forum up on the browser. Though my understated western Oklahoma upbringing* makes me think that some of us lay on the praise a bit thick for our Greek friend at times, I have to acknowledge that he's earned it.

Imeo strives for perfection to the point where his customers expect it. I'm looking forward to seeing the results of his latest labors on the VaporKings website.

*It's just something about where I grew up in western Oklahoma, we're just really understated. A couple of times I took top honors in state scholastic competitions, and the stated opinion was "Huh, not bad.". My farming and ranching relatives would get a blue ribbon steer at the state fair, and receive the praise "Nice steer.".

 

[sadtranz]

Hi Imeo

Can alway's go back to first batch with lovely grooves and call it the Anubis

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

Yep, most of us are very happy with our GGTS and AFS. That does not and should not mean however that we can't request improvements. Up to Imeo if he actions any of them though

I'm lining up for more anyway!!!!