GGTB fail Cisco 901 win

[alldayvape]

Everything GG put aside what stands above everything else in my mind is the close tank feeding system imeo designed (AVS, AFS, UFS <younameit>S ).)

The new UFS costs another $139 ....and the avs or afs $100? Might be wrong with the latter.. When I did my mod shopping I never even considered the GG.. I'm sure its a fine mod, but it looks to complicated to me and the many parts for sale only made my decision easier to buy other mods. (For example a 901 connector costs $35, an battery extension tube costs $44.. and so on and so on)

 

[Captain Morgan]

Everything GG put aside what stands above everything else in my mind is the close tank feeding system imeo designed (AVS, AFS, UFS <younameit>S ). Honestly once I got mine working to my needs, I can't see myself gettin any mod if it doesn't provide a same principle feeding system (with both air and liquid flow control). And no, bottom feeders don't quite cut it

+1 The AFS is the best feeder system, bar none IMO. I have tried other feeders, plus the MAP and VapeMate, etc., but the AFS is by far the best IMO. I use an AFS V2 on a Prodigy V1 with a resistered Tach Switch for a sweet 5.25v vape under load. This combo hasn't left my hand for the past 7 months, except to try other combos.

 

[perpetua]

Interesting to see the views on the GGTB . . . out of all my mods it's my absolute favourite, so much so I've got it in several finishes . . . with a LR901 atomiser and a 17670 battery, they're a joy to use and faff free.

I don't look at the technical aspects of any mod in fine detail, it's of zero interest to me, how a device performs and the service I recieve from a supplier/manufacturer . . . Imeo and the Vendor I deal with are completely faultless, so will always have my business.



Doubtless I'll be classed as a 'fangirl' but at my age I'll take that very happily.

 

[thedudeabides]

Thanks for the review but I have to respectfully disagree on a few points:

1) Batteries: as stated a few times in the thread, there is no use trying to cheap out on batteries, you trully get what you pay for. Just curious, did you purchase your mod from the Australian supplier? If not, not sure why you are referencing their page for your battery specs. So you found a typo on some international seller's site for a mod you didn't purchase from them, a bit of a shady way to backup an argument.

2) Add-ons: You mentioned the mod required add-ons to function properly. I think that statement was just a tad offbase.

You referenced a battery, I'm not sure how many mods you own but it is pretty common for batteries not to be included with a mod. Furthermore, because some battery manufacturers do not design their batteries to the proper spec (in this example 17mmx67mm), sometimes the mod manufacturer will do their due dilligence to recomend a specific battery. It's a bit weird to blame a mod manufacturer because an out of spec battery will not fit in their mod, shouldn't that be directed at the battery manufacturer?

Magnetic button: it's a "nice to have", not a "have to have" IMO. Does the device require it to function? No. Does it provide additional functionality which someone may want to spend a few dollars to acquire? Maybe. Regardless, one of the strengths of the GGs is their modularity and customization. Think about that next time you are in the market for a car, it would kind of suck to be stuck with a single model with no options I own a GGTS and I don't use the magnetic button upgrade, the standard button works fine for me. As far as I know they both use very similar (if not exactly the same) buttons. Of course you may have gotten a defective button, but you do realize that $72 price tag includes a lifetime warranty (which is rare in the e-cig biz), which you could easily get a new button with...

Copper Spring: Every mod out there has internal resistance, and not many even offer a copper spring as an option (see above regarding options). As far as how the GGs stack up against other mods regarding internal resistance (without any fancy copper spring upgrade), I think if you do a quick search you'll find most people consider them on the very low end of the resistance spectrum.

Also, I think your math may be off:

GGTB: $72 at COV (79.99 - 10% bigbuyer discount)
Magnetic button replacement (although, really not needed): $16
Batteries: $28 at COV

That's $116, not really $130+ and to be honest, even adding the batteries or magnet button upgrade is a bit of an embelishment, since you'll need to purchase the batteries for almost any comparable mod and the switch upgrade as stated above is not a must have.

I think you're prolly a great guy, but I really don't think this is a very accurate reveiw of the mod.

 

[Goldenkobold]

The thedudeabides,
Since you are responding to things from a whole different thread, in this thread I think I will not respond here. If you wish to review the review or have your say fine, but in this thread I have not mentioned anything about an australian supplier. The only thread that I did do so was the one where Imeo asked his fans to come over here and talk about how good this device is.

So lets be honest here, you "are not familiar" with a ggtb. I don't own a GGTS...the one does not reflect on the other.

 

[timato]

Iv e had the ggtb from vaporkings for a few months now. Can't say I use it much anymore but when I did it was used as a 6v only device. I've never
used 17670 batteries and probly never will.

As a 6v device it funtioned as it should like any other PV using 2 tenergy 3v batts no better no worse.
While its finish was a bit classier than my xhaler. I preffered using my xhaler for that reason. Ggtb is easily scratched and scuffed and looks like
crap with finger prints all over. The button never failed but felt rough when compressed and other than
that seemed of decent quality.

Can't say it has me drooling for a TS for more than double the price. But it served it purpose.
I will just vape my tv remote.

 

[rockstarr]

I at one point put alot of money into these products and everything I ever had tarnished very quickly and become a pain in the **s to keep clean.. Also the updates just got crazy IMO, I have a Super T P16 that I have used regularly for 6 or 7 months now and I've NEVER had to clean it, not once, and no tarnish at all.. and guess what, it still vapes as is did on day one... great honest review IMO, Thank You.. timato I like my TV remote also...hehe Also just to add when I was out with my GG, everyone thought I was smoking a wrench...

 

[UKtarget]

Well ive got the Satin finish GGTB, had it since October 2010 when i switched to vaping and it was my second mod after a TS.
This has never let me down and has traveled in my van with me for thousands of miles.
The satin finish is still holding up good and the end caps take me a minute to clean.
The only other mod i used more was a screwdriver.
The reason why these were my two main mods......simple they are sturdy and work.
The screwdrivers been retired now as i rarely use 3.7 anymore but the TB is still in use when im out and about

 

[sahara4evr]

I posted in another forum about your review so I think it's fair to post here. I've had my GGTB for a couple months. It is aluminum so no tarnishing (I couldn't figure out at first why yours tarnished so quickly until I realized we have different finishes) As far as batteries, my trustfire 14500s work fine and are cheap. Also, I've not had to purchase any upgrades or add-ons. Everything works as it should. I'm writing this so that others can get an alternate opinion. I use my GGTB everyday and it works flawlessly.

 

[Goldenkobold]

@Timato,
Your post is very similar to my feelings on the product. It functions like any other PV, my button is rough but functional.

@UKtarget
I do not know about the Satin finish, is that a nickle or aluminum tube?

@ Sahara4evr,
Yes I totally think the aluminum option would have cut down on the maintenance in regard to the daily wipe downs, the weekly TLC and so on. It would not have made this button any less annoying, when it works its great but its a little rough due to the burrs. Today I replaced the spring inside of it with something stiffer, I will see how that affects the button, though for the sake of my sanity I think I will avoid releasing any more videos.
The issue with the 14500, and I said this in my first video, I can not see carrying around such a large mod for a 14500. I am not saying this mod is huge, it isn't but a 14500 or 16340 specific device can be made to much smaller specification, and you can certainly get full kits for that mah for less than a GGTB.

@ Everyone who says there is a lifetime warranty,
Can you point me to this warranty? Outside of a Wikipedia article?None of the US suppliers mention it at all, in fact the newest one specifically says no returns when, for the majority of the site, you get a 14 day satisfaction guarantee. Vapor Kings actually use to offer a GG maintenance package, which makes no sense if there is a full lifetime warranty.

I find it odd that the US suppliers don't mention it when it would be a selling point. I know provari has a lifetime warranty because it says it when I go to the site to buy it, the same with the Precise line. I know atmos has a 6 month warranty because it says so on the site when you buy it. I know saber touch has a 5 year warranty because it says so on the site you buy it from.The only GG seller I know that lists a warranty is the UK supplier.

 

[sahara4evr]

"@ Sahara4evr,
Yes I totally think the aluminum option would have cut down on the maintenance in regard to the daily wipe downs, the weekly TLC and so on. It would not have made this button any less annoying, when it works its great but its a little rough due to the burrs. Today I replaced the spring inside of it with something stiffer, I will see how that affects the button, though for the sake of my sanity I think I will avoid releasing any more videos.
The issue with the 14500, and I said this in my first video, I can not see carrying around such a large mod for a 14500. I am not saying this mod is huge, it isn't but a 14500 or 16340 specific device can be made to much smaller specification, and you can certainly get full kits for that mah for less than a GGTB.

@ Everyone who says there is a lifetime warranty,
Can you point me to this warranty? Outside of a Wikipedia article?None of the US suppliers mention it at all, in fact the newest one specifically says no returns when, for the majority of the site, you get a 14 day satisfaction guarantee. Vapor Kings actually use to offer a GG maintenance package, which makes no sense if there is a full lifetime warranty.

I find it odd that the US suppliers don't mention it when it would be a selling point. I know provari has a lifetime warranty because it says it when I go to the site to buy it, the same with the Precise line. I know atmos has a 6 month warranty because it says so on the site when you buy it. I know saber touch has a 5 year warranty because it says so on the site you buy it from.The only GG seller I know that lists a warranty is the UK supplier."

I completely messed up the reply with quote function. Anyway...Thanks for the response Golden. I understand your argument about the batteries. I really never thought about the size and cost of a mod in relation to the batteries I use. I simply wanted the GGTB and had the 14500s so that's what I use. As far as the warranty, I've seen it discussed on the GG forum so I knew it existed before I purchased. Maybe someone else can explain it further. By the way, my intent on posting was not to harass you but to offer an alternate viewpoint.

 

[Caddyman]

re: to the lifetime warranty, please see the newly launched official GG website. warranty info is on the service tab

The Golden Greek Ecig | Home of the GG Ecig

 

[Goldenkobold]

re: to the lifetime warranty, please see the newly launched official GG website. warranty info is on the service tab

The Golden Greek Ecig | Home of the GG Ecig

"Every GG product (except those clearly labeled otherwise) has a life time warranty.
This warranty applies to all GG products both brand new and second/third hand.
This warranty covers all situations (user’s fault, manufacturing fault etc) and it starts from the first day that user receives the unit.
The only thing required from the user is to send 10 euros per faulty part to the manufacturer to cover the shipping cost and the manufacturer will ship a new part to the user.
In case of problem with a new unit, first contact the supplier you’ve bought the unit from. Otherwise contact Imeo for details."

So I have this button...and its burred...so I send 14 dollars to Imeo and he send me a new button?

edit: and it appears this covers cross threading as well?

 

[Caddyman]

Its says it covers users fault but I'm not sure. Contact him, although you have a difference of opinion I'm sure he would be happy to take care of you.

 

[Goldenkobold]

Its says it covers users fault but I'm not sure. Contact him, although you have a difference of opinion I'm sure he would be happy to take care of you.

Thanks Caddy,
For the record I don't have a difference of opinion with Imeo other than I think this device is mediocre. I don't think it is a waste of your money I just think, for many people, there may be a more efficient use of ones money based on my experience, perhaps even within the GG line. Imeo has even said there is nothing special about the GGTB if you want something special get the GGTS. This is no way reflects on his entire line of GG's or GG after market parts, and if you want a mechanical mod with a side button located near the bottom, with a locking feature that uses 17670's or can do 6v that looks exactly like this mod...well this is pretty much your pony. However if you just want a 17670/6v mod there are plenty in the same price range with features this one lacks (and a lack of features this one has). There are also plenty with higher/lower mah batteries that are cheaper, and that should be mentioned as well.

However my button is burred and I do have to clean this thing daily and it isn't exactly cheaper than the competition.

I do not recommend the nickle plated GGTB because of this, and because of the zero supplier side support for the product(in the US). That is not to say the US suppliers don't help their customers, VK did enough videos to fill up a hard drive on how to take care of these things. But the nebulous full warranty from Greece, that no one seems capable of explaining in any detail other than to say it costs 14 dollars and is "full", not withstanding there is no actual warranty from the US sellers. Who knows who will be selling this mod next year there seems to be a supplier shift in any given zone at least once a year, if past events are any hint towards future possibilities. I don't get my mods for free so I have to take into account cost of the mod vs function or unique design features. How could I possibly recommend this thing given all of the issues with it?

I stand by the review, this is a functional but not fantastic product. I annotated some of the information that has come out since this video, including the claim that cloudsofvapor will at some point list what batteries are and are not compatible with this product in the current review, as well as the fact that the aluminum version probably requires less maintenance.

There are people here who support and love this thing, there are at least a few people here who own it and see it as less that spectacular. I just belong to the second camp, its a good camp, we have pie.

Vape on.

 

[Nighteyes]

I figured I would throw my hand into the pile haha. I just picked up an Aluminum GGTB at vapefest from Bruce over at Clouds of Vapor. I do gotta say this is a sick looking device.....BUT, even though it is aluminum...it started to discolor about a day later. Today is day 4, there are dark finger splots from where I normally hold the device. I definitely see this as a regular shine down..a pain yes..but nevertheless, I took the plunge and am still happy with it.

Could I have gotten another device for the money that serves all my purposes, oh most assuredly. This device (as all the GG line) is known as the Rolls Royce of devices. Comparing to cars for a moment..I know some people who put some serious money into a sick slick ride...and religiously pour time and effort into keeping it shiny and aesthetically alluring. I mean, who buys a corvette just to let bird .... burn into the paint job lol. My car gets very little loving in that regard, birds .... on it...I get around to cleaning it eventually haha. it certainly doesn't get top marks on visual appeal, but it gets me to A and B, much like my friend's corvette.

My train of thought is that I could have purchased a mod that I could care less how it looks and bang it around, so long as it vapes well. Instead, I decided on something that of a shiny beauty and I know apples to .......s I am going to have to do a lot more, a helluva lot more to keep it that pristine and eye catching. I feel a lot like my friend now, I have something that will require a LOT of effort to keep up, since it is a beautiful monster that so far vapes very nicely.

I guess what I am getting at is that I my humble opinion I am happy with my purchase and in no way whatsoever am blasting your review. Most people are have a nice pair of shoes that they only wear to certain occasions, yet pay through the nose, while they have their normal day to day apparel to get them through. This is how I view my GGTB, it is my corvette. I have some ego's(inferno), my reo grand, my 016, and my mark mod to get me through and to rotate between.

Ugh...me thinks I made zero sense and I apologize if this seems like random blarble

your review, while critical, was still your honest take on what you purchased. Everyone has their collections and money sinks, but I think I certainly did myself good getting this. Sure its just another device that puts out vapor, and an intensive one considering what one needs to do to keep it a top shape.

I had one guy come up to me at the airport while I was using my GGTB and now he's looking into ecigs for himself and his wife. Could I have gotten the same response using any one of my other devices, maybe, but I like to think it was because the slickness of the GGTB caught his attention and perked his curiosity. Kinda like how you see that one car in the ocean of other cars on the highway that stands out, that also happens to be wickedly expensive and insanely crazy to upkeep but the owner still uses it regardless and enjoys it thoroughly.

Ok, I am done now hehehe, time to clamp my yapper shut! Thanks for the review buddy, now everyone just please get along haha.

 

[Goldenkobold]

Thanks for the comment Nighteyes,
I hope you continue to enjoy your GG
I think Schlitz video pretty much sums up my view on the GGTB

It's to temperamental to have as an out and about unit. I have released, and smokey has released a button fix video for this mod to stop the grinding noise if you are having that issue.

I do know on day 4 I liked my ggtb a lot more than on day 24 but I hope you continue to enjoy yours, aluminum should be easier to keep clean and it has a certain aesthetic charm when fully polished.

I figured I would throw my hand into the pile haha. I just picked up an Aluminum GGTB at vapefest from Bruce over at Clouds of Vapor. I do gotta say this is a sick looking device.....BUT, even though it is aluminum...it started to discolor about a day later. Today is day 4, there are dark finger splots from where I normally hold the device. I definitely see this as a regular shine down..a pain yes..but nevertheless, I took the plunge and am still happy with it.

Could I have gotten another device for the money that serves all my purposes, oh most assuredly. This device (as all the GG line) is known as the Rolls Royce of devices. Comparing to cars for a moment..I know some people who put some serious money into a sick slick ride...and religiously pour time and effort into keeping it shiny and aesthetically alluring. I mean, who buys a corvette just to let bird .... burn into the paint job lol. My car gets very little loving in that regard, birds .... on it...I get around to cleaning it eventually haha. it certainly doesn't get top marks on visual appeal, but it gets me to A and B, much like my friend's corvette.

My train of thought is that I could have purchased a mod that I could care less how it looks and bang it around, so long as it vapes well. Instead, I decided on something that of a shiny beauty and I know apples to .......s I am going to have to do a lot more, a helluva lot more to keep it that pristine and eye catching. I feel a lot like my friend now, I have something that will require a LOT of effort to keep up, since it is a beautiful monster that so far vapes very nicely.

I guess what I am getting at is that I my humble opinion I am happy with my purchase and in no way whatsoever am blasting your review. Most people are have a nice pair of shoes that they only wear to certain occasions, yet pay through the nose, while they have their normal day to day apparel to get them through. This is how I view my GGTB, it is my corvette. I have some ego's(inferno), my reo grand, my 016, and my mark mod to get me through and to rotate between.

Ugh...me thinks I made zero sense and I apologize if this seems like random blarble

your review, while critical, was still your honest take on what you purchased. Everyone has their collections and money sinks, but I think I certainly did myself good getting this. Sure its just another device that puts out vapor, and an intensive one considering what one needs to do to keep it a top shape.

I had one guy come up to me at the airport while I was using my GGTB and now he's looking into ecigs for himself and his wife. Could I have gotten the same response using any one of my other devices, maybe, but I like to think it was because the slickness of the GGTB caught his attention and perked his curiosity. Kinda like how you see that one car in the ocean of other cars on the highway that stands out, that also happens to be wickedly expensive and insanely crazy to upkeep but the owner still uses it regardless and enjoys it thoroughly.

Ok, I am done now hehehe, time to clamp my yapper shut! Thanks for the review buddy, now everyone just please get along haha.

 

[emonty]

I used to have all GG's, loved them but turned away, fully agree: overpriced, all day maintenance, too many parts that fail, many other better and cheaper options make the GG lost the game big time!!!

 

[hairball]

I have an all brass GGTB. Yes, I like the mod except for the tarnishing. I haven't had issues with burs either. Pretty much, I polished it and put it away in a soft case just in the event of a ban. If it weren't for the tarnishing, I would use it daily. However, I would take my Prodigy over it any minute of the day...even my little Icon which was my first big PV for me.

 

[RippleInStillWater]

I used to have all GG's, loved them but turned away, fully agree: overpriced, all day maintenance, too many parts that fail, many other better and cheaper options make the GG lost the game big time!!!

Don't have a clue what you're talking about -- I load the tank and am set for 2 days, clean every couple weeks (like you should all mods), and have never had a part that failed on the half dozen I own. I sold the cheaper options because the vape was inferior!!!