GGTS issue with Kick

[R53_Dave]

With a kick installed I'm getting hit and miss firing with my switch. Everything is clean. Contacts, tube threads, battery terminals, Switch pin and battery post..EVERYTHING! I've replaced the switch pin with the brass pin. The batteries are reading 4.2v, so they are fully charged. Kick contacts (all 3) are clean. Nolax applied to threads. Nolax removed. Vasoline applied. Vasoline removed. Make it tighter. Make it looser. Fiddle with the battery spring. I've even replaced the switch with a known good one with magnets. I've tried it all. If the Kick is in, this thing will fire when it feels like it. The lower the battery volts the more likely it is to missfire (not fire at all). @3.7v it's 50/50 on firing and takes a second or two to do it. I've tested this kick in another device and it's SPOT ON! The problem seems to be my GGTS not sending even, clean, power through the mod. Something is causing it to stutter and not be even and constant.

Without the kick the problem does not SEEM to exist. Before everyone says "It's the kick" I will point to this.
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Good old PBusardo is reviewing a knock off here....that has the exact same issue I'm having! He shows on the meter how it's dropping out and causing the kick to misread the voltage. Kick feels low voltage, and it does not pass the power. Sometimes when I press the switch VERY HARD it will help. Pressing harder is not a fix though. This knockoff is acting EXACTLY like my GGTS!

My GGTS switch is slightly off center due to the tube hole for the switch being tapped out of line. It's ever so slight...But it's far from dead on straight. Other than this small defect I can see no reason why I'm having this issue. I really doubt this small thing is the cause, but it's the only thing I can call a defect on the unit.

A friend of mine has a a few GGTS's running kicks, and none have this issue.

I'm at a loss for what to do here. Please help.

 

[imeothanasis]

take a very thin sandpaper (1500) and sand the tube where the spring of the kick touch Dave. Also change the steel pin of the button with the brass one

 

[R53_Dave]

take a very thin sandpaper (1500) and sand the tube where the spring of the kick touch Dave. Also change the steel pin of the button with the brass one

Imeo to the rescue! (You're the best, brother) But.... I replaced that pin for the brass one a week ago. Sanding of the tube where the kick spring contacts it was done shortly after that. (I used 2000 grit though)

This is where you get to have a good laugh at my expense. Enjoy!

Not content to sit on my hands while help was on the way, I pressed on. I removed the switch and battery spring. I then bridged the circuit to find it worked flawlessly, even with a battery putting out only 3.5v. Knowing that it was either the switch or the spring at this point, I went straight for that spring because I've already replaced the switch with an entirely new unit. I pulled it out (for the 100th time) and said to myself "Let's reverse it and see what happens". When I turned it around, and gave it a good push/twist, the light went off in my head.....I then hear Nelson from the Simpsons yelling "HA HAA" at me.... and I wanted to jump out of a window.

It would seem my battery spring came installed backwards..... It works flawlessly now! In my defense, the spring came installed this direction, so I never questioned it. I should have known to try turning it around weeks ago. (and about 50 failed fix attempts ago too)

Just to clarify, the spring goes into the brass housing BIG end first? The smaller end is what is suppose to be touching the battery? If not, this is for sure how it wants to play. It no likey the spring in small end first.

Off to the shower now to get all this EGG OFF MY FACE!

GGTS = 100%
Owner = Uber fail!

Thanks Imeo! I'll try to be less ......ed from now on.

 

[SSG]

Imeo, where do I get the brass button pin? I don't see them listed on COV.

 

[imeothanasis]

i am very glad that you make it work as you want it Dave!!
Spring is a two way spring. Its made like this so all batteries can fit on the GGTB even those 123A batteries that are 2mm bigger than normal. Its a simple invention that I did 1,5 year ago. So if you see that spring works as you want in the opossite way than it was installed then all are ok buddy

Imeo to the rescue! (You're the best, brother) But.... I replaced that pin for the brass one a week ago. Sanding of the tube where the kick spring contacts it was done shortly after that. (I used 2000 grit though)

This is where you get to have a good laugh at my expense. Enjoy!

Not content to sit on my hands while help was on the way, I pressed on. I removed the switch and battery spring. I then bridged the circuit to find it worked flawlessly, even with a battery putting out only 3.5v. Knowing that it was either the switch or the spring at this point, I went straight for that spring because I've already replaced the switch with an entirely new unit. I pulled it out (for the 100th time) and said to myself "Let's reverse it and see what happens". When I turned it around, and gave it a good push/twist, the light went off in my head.....I then hear Nelson from the Simpsons yelling "HA HAA" at me.... and I wanted to jump out of a window.

It would seem my battery spring came installed backwards..... It works flawlessly now! In my defense, the spring came installed this direction, so I never questioned it. I should have known to try turning it around weeks ago. (and about 50 failed fix attempts ago too)

Just to clarify, the spring goes into the brass housing BIG end first? The smaller end is what is suppose to be touching the battery? If not, this is for sure how it wants to play. It no likey the spring in small end first.

Off to the shower now to get all this EGG OFF MY FACE!

GGTS = 100%
Owner = Uber fail!

Thanks Imeo! I'll try to be less ......ed from now on.

 

[imeothanasis]

I think Bruce didnt order those pins SS. Its my fault, I didnt list them on excel sheet that I send to him

Imeo, where do I get the brass button pin? I don't see them listed on COV.

 

[Bishopheals]

I need those brass pins myself.

 

[digunderground]

I had issues getting the Kick to operate at first too, It would fire ** most of the time in my SS GGTS. I found that the brass button pin fixed it immediately, I haven't had ANY issues since.

I didnt try reversing the spring (mine was installed small end down), I'll have to try that. I think all of this is due to the fact that the Kick needs a REALLY good connection or else it wont work well. The SS GGTS is Stainless Steel which is not the best conductor so I think the KICK just needs a little help (brass pin etc) But I wouldnt have it any other way, The SS GGTS is impeccably machined out of high grade SS and I cant think of a better material.

This might be a figment of my imagination, but the Kick seems to work best in the GGTS when I have my hand fully wrapped around the tube. IE: not just my fingertips in contact with the tube, instead my whole hand making contact on the tube top to bottom pressing the button with the inside of my palm near my pinkie finger.

Regardless.. Thanks Imeo for making such an awesome product it is truly the best made mod I have ever used, and my pleasure to vape on.

 

[kurtus]

Got an all stainless ggts in the mail and planning to kick it too, I'd love to get one of these brass button pins too.

 

[dspin]

I need those brass pins myself.

Me too, brass rules

 

[FunkyVapes]

Toss me into the mix as well. I'd love to get the kick working

 

[Bishopheals]

heres my vid on kick and ggts.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/325850-ggts-kick.html

 

[Jagellpuff]

take a very thin sandpaper (1500) and sand the tube where the spring of the kick touch Dave. Also change the steel pin of the button with the brass one

I just got a SSGGTS and a Kick is on the way, will it work with the STD switch in a SSGGTS?


Jeff "Jagellpuff" via iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[digunderground]

I just got a SSGGTS and a Kick is on the way, will it work with the STD switch in a SSGGTS?

Jeff "Jagellpuff" via iPhone using Tapatalk

It worked fine for me with the std switch, just sometimes wouldnt fire. Since I switched the pin its been flawless. With the SS pin, I found it really (seemed) to help if I wrapped my whole hand around the GGTS when hitting it. Only reason I can think of is maybe helping the kick to sense a better ground?

 

[Supacrazyguy]

I just got a SSGGTS and a Kick is on the way, will it work with the STD switch in a SSGGTS?


Jeff "Jagellpuff" via iPhone using Tapatalk

no need to get ahead of yourself , wait , try and decide

 

[cypresss]

Remove the spring altogether.
The Kick has short-circuit and over-discharge protection built in. I had the same problems a while back, but without the spring, it fires every single time.

 

[digunderground]

Remove the spring altogether.
The Kick has short-circuit and over-discharge protection built in. I had the same problems a while back, but without the spring, it fires every single time.

I tried that solution and ended up making the bottom of one of my AW's a "dome" now it fits looser in some of my other mods.. Just dont over tighten if you do this.. i might have been screw happy

 

[VPDownunder]

Me too, brass rules

Totally agree, I have a new flat top button and the first thing I did was rip the SS pin out of it, toss it and wack in my original aluminium edition brass button pin. TBH I just don't understand Imeo ever changing them to SS.

 

[SSG]

I am really looking forward to getting that brass pin. I just received my SS bottom cap with the brass post and it seems to be firing so much better than with the brass bottom cap and SS post. It may just be me but it also seems to be hitting a little harder. Lovin' it.

 

[imeothanasis]

I am really looking forward to getting that brass pin. I just received my SS bottom cap with the brass post and it seems to be firing so much better than with the brass bottom cap and SS post. It may just be me but it also seems to be hitting a little harder. Lovin' it.

with a brass pin on the button will be even better SS. And the best thing is that brass can be cleaned with a pencil rubber (no sandpaper any more)