GGTS telescope / bottom tube fit issue

[cypresss]

I've just recently begun having an issue with my GGTS (old style) not firing. So, I began to trouble-shoot. Let's just say that I've tried just about everything and finally figured it out...but don't know what to do about it. The fit, between the telescope tube and the bottom tube has a lot of "play" in it. Evidently the threads are not making contact. That looks ridiculous even as I write it but, it is something like that.

What I mean is that when I press the button, the GGTS won't fire. But if I press the button and "twist" the bottom tube perpendicular, something makes contact and it fires. This is difficult to explain, so if it doesn't make sense I'll try to do a quick video. Any ideas?

 

[T-Hefner]

You must not be making contact with the center pole on the bottom cap. Make sure your button is in far enough to the tube that its making contact with center pole. Have ya adjusted your button? or taken it out before? You might have to adjust the button lock nut and screw button in just a lil bit, so that when ya press it, it makes contact with center pole inside tube.

-Tim

 

[imeothanasis]

cyp, your problem has a very easy solution. Clean the internal threads of the first tube with shine cream very well. Do the same on the threads of the telescope. GGTS will fire every time after this.

ps...... I am sure that you have already did what Tim suggest. If not, follow Tim's advices first

 

[cypresss]

That is one of the things I tried. Right now, I only have to push the button about 1 mm and it bottoms. There's still about 1 mm of space between the bottom of the button and the lock ring.

You must not be making contact with the center pole on the bottom cap. Make sure your button is in far enough to the tube that its making contact with center pole. Have ya adjusted your button? or taken it out before? You might have to adjust the button lock nut and screw button in just a lil bit, so that when ya press it, it makes contact with center pole inside tube.

-Tim

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

Pictures please.

 

[mwa102464]

This happen to me a week ago running my GGTS/AVS and it ended up being my Atty that was messed up and shorting my unit, I kept thinking it was the play in my tubes as well but the center pin in my Atty got pushed in to far, CHECK and make sure its not just the Atty by putting on another one. just a thought since it happen to me.!

 

[cypresss]

OK, already cleaned and checked the throw on the button.

Oh, and mwa, I thought attys too. Have tried with 2 each LR and regular.

 

[mwa102464]

I see its an older GGTS Cypress, on you end cap are you running the spring around the center post or do you have a spring in the center post the newer style, to me I think it has something to do with your center post spring, if its the newer style with the spring inside the center post, replace it, or if you don't have one try to get that old spring back to its new condition for the time being and fiddle with it,,,,, if its the older style center post same thing fiddle with your spring and put it back on, also make sure your center post is making contact, take it off along with the plastic piece it is attached to and check it out and put it back together making sure you have good contacts, you definitely are having a contact problem one way or another, you also seem to have one heck of a lot of play I would tighten up maybe just a tad by screwing together just a bit tighter, but bottom line check what I said its a contact issue and could be that center post and or spring

 

[mwa102464]

Also could be in your polygonal nut and that center pin and how its making contact with you AVS

 

[mwa102464]

Cypress, also take off you AVS first and run your GGTS WITHOUT YOUR AVS,,, THIS WILL LEAD YOU RIGHT TO THE PROBLEM, I BET IT WORKS WITHOUT THE AVS ON

 

[mwa102464]

Definitely take off that AVS and we can diagnose without that on, it will be much easier Cypress

 

[cypresss]

I see its an older GGTS Cypress, on you end cap are you running the spring around the center post or do you have a spring in the center post the newer style, to me I think it has something to do with your center post spring, if its the newer style with the spring inside the center post, replace it, or if you don't have one try to get that old spring back to its new condition for the time being and fiddle with it,,,,, if its the older style center post same thing fiddle with your spring and put it back on, also make sure your center post is making contact, take it off along with the plastic piece it is attached to and check it out and put it back together making sure you have good contacts, you definitely are having a contact problem one way or another, you also seem to have one heck of a lot of play I would tighten up maybe just a tad by screwing together just a bit tighter, but bottom line check what I said its a contact issue and could be that center post and or spring

The spring was one of my first thoughts because over the past few days I've had to tighten the GG more and more to get it to work. Mine is the center post with the spring that threads inside of it. I've been looking on VK for a while and they're out of the bottom cap GGTS springs. So, as a test, I removed the spring and had straight contact with the bottom cap post...and still had the same problem. Lots of play, and no way to tighten it down more without damaging the battery.

 

[mwa102464]

Im still betting its your Center pin and how its hitting your Atty, please remove you AVS Cypress, and let try diagnosing this with NO AVS on your unit OK

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

Strange one, can you take a picture of the telescope section. Also try it with a 18650 Batt. Still .... contact?

I remove my 17340's and get telescope play like that. So either the batts are too skinny or it's not screwed up tight enough.

 

[cypresss]

Cypress, also take off you AVS first and run your GGTS WITHOUT YOUR AVS,,, THIS WILL LEAD YOU RIGHT TO THE PROBLEM, I BET IT WORKS WITHOUT THE AVS ON

OK. My instincts tell me something is funny, but you are right about one thing. The GG works fine with the regular top cap (no AVS). The weird part is that the "play" is gone too. With the top cap on, the main body is much longer, maybe 4-5 threads showing on the telescope, and the connection is tight as a drum. There's no wobble at all. With the AVS on, the unit is longer, but the main body is shorter (no threads on the telescope) because of the pin length in the AVS vs the pin length in the GGTS top cap.

Now I have more variables than I did before...

 

[mwa102464]

You had your telescope reversed maybe ???

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

Take the Top off the GGTS and put the AVS on it. Push the .... plug in to make good contact. Then put it all on the GGTS. Still wobble?

 

[cypresss]

mwa and i tried a few things and got it working.

Looks like it could have been either the center pin in the 510 AVS connector was too tight OR the entire unit wasn't tightened down enough. It could've been partially both, because when I run the GGTS with the original top cap, all I have to do is make contact between the batteries, spring and center pin of top cap. When I use the AVS, I crank it down tight, and it fires every time.

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

or it's not screwed up tight enough.

Yeah, good job.

 

[stv888]

the gg man strikes again!!