Giving Up on RBAs and RDAs -- Impossible for me to do!
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Im sorry to hear that youve had a bad experience with RBAs. I started with a Genesis atomizer (the AGA-T) and found it incredibly frustrating. Similar to the good advice offered above I then tried a single coil build with silica on an IGO-L and it worked great and was a great starting point for me. I never went back to Genesis atomizers, but I now strictly use microcoils and cotton wicks with KFLs and RDAs. Its a no-brainer for me now, but thats because Ive been doing it for over a year. If you dont feel like completely throwing in the towel, I too would suggest working with silica or Ekowool, single coils (a microcoil or just wrapping the wick), and a simple and inexpensive rda.
Agreed... I spent years vaping and reading literally hundreds of pages of posts on ECF on all varieties of subject matter including threads just like this one, and up until recently, I wasn't even a member.. Learned gobs of info and experiences from others (not just the OP) and at the very least found the reading interesting..lol
Not woven. I think the fibers get lined up in a high pressure cleaning process, but don't quote me on that.
I separate the pad by opening it like a sandwich and cut that (those) pieces of bread in half against the grain. Then cut a tiny strip along the grain, twist a point at one end (don't twist the whole strip), and pull it through.
Expensive compared to drug store cotton, but the smallest box I've seen has 60 pads. Should last quite a long time, unless you end up using it for its intended purpose
OK, what's this nonsense about setting up a Genisis tank with anything other than SS mesh ??
Can't be done.
Should not be done.
Silica ... I mean it's sacrilege
Sometimes you just gots to close your eyes and move along.
What some people do in the privacy of their own home with their own genesis tank is their own business.
Hello Everyone!
I'm new - just used to read stuff here but I've joined. I'm at my last hurdle....
VTR v2; MVP v2; Aspire Nautilus and Aerotank Mega - but unfortunately down to the last 2-3 'analogs' a day
Lots of leaks, burns, lack or flavour, vapour etc. But I'm persevering
So many responses for this guys problem so quick! Quite a community and it's inspiring
I am actually planning to get a Kayfun Lite Plus very soon - so as not to go off topic
Could you guys perhaps suggest a video that you think is best for a first time RBA builder ??
Perhaps consensus on certain videos being great could sort this problem out for many people
Thanks
I'm new - just used to read stuff here but I've joined. I'm at my last hurdle....
VTR v2; MVP v2; Aspire Nautilus and Aerotank Mega - but unfortunately down to the last 2-3 'analogs' a day
Lots of leaks, burns, lack or flavour, vapour etc. But I'm persevering
So many responses for this guys problem so quick! Quite a community and it's inspiring
I am actually planning to get a Kayfun Lite Plus very soon - so as not to go off topic
Could you guys perhaps suggest a video that you think is best for a first time RBA builder ??
Perhaps consensus on certain videos being great could sort this problem out for many people
Thanks
I can't believe anyone believed this guy in the first place... a little too willing to help leads to gullible people I suppose... anyway there is no way this guy isn't just trolling it sounds so fake and unrealistic I mean seriously 2 years and he comes here to post for the first time... lol yeah right
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Not woven. I think the fibers get lined up in a high pressure cleaning process, but don't quote me on that.
I separate the pad by opening it like a sandwich and cut that (those) pieces of bread in half against the grain. Then cut a tiny strip along the grain, twist a point at one end (don't twist the whole strip), and pull it through.
Expensive compared to drug store cotton, but the smallest box I've seen has 60 pads. Should last quite a long time, unless you end up using it for its intended purpose
Ok then... I might give 'em a try. I figured all the hooraw about organic cotton was a lot of malarkey... till I actually tried it!
I'm delighted with the taste, but eliminating some of the hit-or-miss factor would be a great thing, would save a lot of emptying, rewicking, and refilling. They are a bit expensive... but when I consider the quarter-million I wasted on cigarettes (a very conservative estimate!), $12 doesn't seem so bad. Thx
Andria
So, I guess I'll never have that "great vape" and "great flavor" I'm told I will have with an RDA or RBA . . . too many "secrets" don't want to be shared . . .
whatever . . .
I would suggest continuing to practice with your Igo. That was my first RDA & it's one of the easiest to build on. It does take some work trying to figure out just where to put your coil in relation to the air hole to get good performance. But once you figure it out on 1 easy device you will be able to move onto something else if you want.
But no one says you HAVE to use a rebuildable. There are plenty of products out there that you don't have to rebuild yet will give you great performance. And there are many vapers who don't delve into rebuildables yet they're perfectly happy. So don't worry about it if it's not for you.
Since the OP seems like he was trolling and never responded back. I will now give him a bit of useless info for him, that may or may not motivate him to succeed.
Literally.......my 12 year old daughter makes coils for her mother if I don't have time to do it. That's how easy it is. I find it therapeutic to sit down for 15 minutes, forget about my stresses and wrap a few coils. I can tell you that I did get better with small muscle movement as I made more and more, so you will get better with practice.
Make yourself your favorite drink, grab your tools of the trade ( tweezers, clipper, screw driver, etc.) and sit down in a well lit area, and relax and take your time and have some fun with it. Good luck
Literally.......my 12 year old daughter makes coils for her mother if I don't have time to do it. That's how easy it is. I find it therapeutic to sit down for 15 minutes, forget about my stresses and wrap a few coils. I can tell you that I did get better with small muscle movement as I made more and more, so you will get better with practice.
Make yourself your favorite drink, grab your tools of the trade ( tweezers, clipper, screw driver, etc.) and sit down in a well lit area, and relax and take your time and have some fun with it. Good luck
Idk about that readyxwick works great for genesis style tanks great flavor the cleanest out of any wick I've tried by far IMOOK, what's this nonsense about setting up a Genisis tank with anything other than SS mesh ??
Can't be done.
Should not be done.
Silica ... I mean it's sacrilege
Mine is a bit different. I ventured into this rebuilding stuff couple of months ago. My purpose was to give up the cartomizers, which I used for 2+ years. I bought Kayfuns, RSST, Protanks, and the materials associated with them. I was able to make standard things work, ie, no burnt taste, no gurgling... They all work, except the Protanks were working inconsistently, and the RSST worked, but not the type I would prefer spending much time on. I settled with the Kayfuns. Long story short, after several weeks I have set them all aside in favor of inexpensive clearomizers...My first experience with clearomizers was both good and bad, mostly bad, and forgot about them after using three of a set of seven many weeks earlier. I thought why not try a different brand? And so I'm back with clearos. So far so good.
"Great vape" and "great flavor" are subjective terms.
You really do get the best flavor in my humble opinion with RDA, RBAs. What exactly is your issues and perhaps we can help you? I've been building now for around a month and a half and it's been working out fabulous. In fact I've been winding different types of coils and just built a successful tiger coil. For me I like to tinker and I'm very used to working with small things as I did dentistry for over 25 years. There are certain tricks you can use to help you out. Like building a micro coil. You can wind it around a 3/4in. Drill bit, pulse it hot and condense it more with tweasers. Make sure your coils don't over lap each other. If your winding a tradition coil on silica you can stick a pin into the silica to make it rigid while you wind then remove the pin when your done. This helps me a lot. What exactly is the problem with your build? Maybe we can help. Don't give up. It does take practice especially if your not used to working with small things. I know you can do this successfully.try a few winding tricks and check out some you tube videos. You tube really helped me.is it that your not reaching your desired ohms? What exactly is happening? Please don't give up. I know you can do it! Best wishes
Just send me all your RDA's and ill build them for you if you let me keep a kayfun =X
Don't forget the reading glasses, and magnifying glasses of various types. A lot of us "old smokers" really are, or getting there way too quickly! Those parts are all so danged tiny. But you're right, it gets easier the more you do it. At first, I was extremely "bull in china shop" clumsy, and my coils still don't always *look* great, but they usually do what they're intended to do.
Andria
My coils don't always look like the pictures we see but they work and that is all that matters to me. I love my kayfuns. Spent the last year and a half building my novas so it's a bit of a step up but not hard at all. I'm not into the subohm craze so 1.8 or thereabouts works for me.
This thread is underlining a problem I've been seeing a lot around here lately.
Not everyone wants to or can rebuild - for a variety of reasons. So why do so many people have to jump on or get downright rude to people who don't or can't.
It is one thing to try to help someone who is having problems. It is another thing entirely to get snarky and rude because someone else does not have the same abilities or desires that you have.
So feel free to try to help and offer suggestions, but stop the constant "you have to have this" or you must do that" posts.
No, folks, you don't need a particular type or brand of equipment to be a successful vaper. It does not have to be an all consuming hobby. So why not stop the snark and insults, or save them for the FDA or your local politicians (of either party) who want to outlaw this great alternative to smoking.
Not everyone wants to or can rebuild - for a variety of reasons. So why do so many people have to jump on or get downright rude to people who don't or can't.
It is one thing to try to help someone who is having problems. It is another thing entirely to get snarky and rude because someone else does not have the same abilities or desires that you have.
So feel free to try to help and offer suggestions, but stop the constant "you have to have this" or you must do that" posts.
No, folks, you don't need a particular type or brand of equipment to be a successful vaper. It does not have to be an all consuming hobby. So why not stop the snark and insults, or save them for the FDA or your local politicians (of either party) who want to outlaw this great alternative to smoking.
Usually I would say stick at it, but after 6 months!? XD
I don't understand why it's difficult for you. With an RDA you just wrap 28 gauge around a small drill bit 8-9 times. Put it on your device and get it red. Squeeze tight with tweezers. Put some cotton in it. Vape. (check ohms) But anyway..
Buy pre wrapped coils, use cotton as you wick, and a RDA. When it comes time to change the wick, just pull it out and put in some fresh cotton. Heating up the coil and running it under water cleans it. I've been using the same coil, on the same RDA, for more than 4 months.
I don't understand why it's difficult for you. With an RDA you just wrap 28 gauge around a small drill bit 8-9 times. Put it on your device and get it red. Squeeze tight with tweezers. Put some cotton in it. Vape. (check ohms) But anyway..
Buy pre wrapped coils, use cotton as you wick, and a RDA. When it comes time to change the wick, just pull it out and put in some fresh cotton. Heating up the coil and running it under water cleans it. I've been using the same coil, on the same RDA, for more than 4 months.
This is your original post. You want to be sucessful at building an RDA or RBA, but you were not. The reason you tried was because you heard the flavor was better this way. You have been vaping for quite some time so I assume you are already getting some satisfaction out of vaping. Some of us are willing to help you but we needed some more info. There is no "secret" to this. Regardless....you do not have to use a rebuildable to have an enjoyable vaping experience. You have obviously proved that. If you do want some help...PM me...I'll give it a shot.I've been a straight up vaper for 2 years now. . . protanks, evods, ce4s, LR attys, cartos, you name it.
I've been told that flavor and vapor and overall performance is better with RBAs and RDAs. . .
Spent over $300 on 2 Kayfuns 2 Smoktech RSSTs with air flow caps, Ithaka, UDB, Caterpillar, IGOs, etc . . .
Watched countless videos on wrapping coils, rolling mesh, etc . . .
AFTER 6 MONTHS OF PRACTICE AND TRYING, NONE OF IT WORKS AT ALL . . . ITS NOT AS EASY AS THEY CLAIM . . . IT IS A TASK AND A BURDEN . . . NOT ONE SUCCESSFUL COIL
Ridiculous if you ask me . . . waste of time, waste of money . . .
So, I guess I'll never have that "great vape" and "great flavor" I'm told I will have with an RDA or RBA . . . too many "secrets" don't want to be shared . . .
whatever . . .
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