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I don't like the rubber-tipped glass drippers (even on the glass bottles) and here is why....

I used to play with aromatherapy stuff... "essential oils" etc. to make perfume products. The essential oils are crazy strong stuff. Once I got tired of that whole obsession, I still had about 40 bottles of the essential oils which I kept in a sealed box. After a year, I opened the box and just about swooned from the smell, about 1/2 of the rubber-tips had MELTED into a liquid-y GOO (even in an upright position). A few of the bottles had accidentally tipped over and those rubber drippers were in even worse shape...spilling the oils out completely.

When you store your juice in a glass bottle, that's great but remember that those rubber droppers are partly porous and so eventually you could get not only evaporation.. but the rubber melting into your juice. Not good! Especially if they accidentaly tip over, the e-liquid is being exposed to the rubber and will eventally disintegrate the rubber into the juice.

Better option are the glass bottles with the "european dropper" (can find on Google)

I know there are vendors selling their juice in glass bottles, think they are doing us a favor but if they come with the rubber droppers it's honestly not a good long-term thing. Even the time spent shipping is exposing the e-liquid to the rubber drip top (in a laying-down position in the package)

That being said... if you use the juice up really fast, probably doesn't matter much at all.
 

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I don't like the rubber-tipped glass drippers (even on the glass bottles) and here is why....

I used to play with aromatherapy stuff... "essential oils" etc. to make perfume products. The essential oils are crazy strong stuff. Once I got tired of that whole obsession, I still had about 40 bottles of the essential oils which I kept in a sealed box. After a year, I opened the box and just about swooned from the smell, about 1/2 of the rubber-tips had MELTED into a liquid-y GOO (even in an upright position). A few of the bottles had accidentally tipped over and those rubber drippers were in even worse shape...spilling the oils out completely.

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You have to be VERY Careful when dealing with "Essential Oils" with Plastics or Rubber.

They are Usually Extremely Concentrated and Many are Hard Core Plasticizers. Some can be Considered Solvents.

I do Not Use or would Ever recommend that Anyone use of Oil Based Flavorings in e-Liquids.
 

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You have to be VERY Careful when dealing with "Essential Oils" with Plastics or Rubber.

They are Usually Extremely Concentrated and Many are Hard Core Plasticizers. Some can be Considered Solvents.

I do Not Use or would Ever recommend that Anyone use of Oil Based Flavorings in e-Liquids.

So putting anything with real mint would be a no go? My mint flavors that I keep are usually oily, so I assume that they actually contain an oil base derived from mint plants. I could be way off on that one though.
 

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So putting anything with real mint would be a no go? My mint flavors that I keep are usually oily, so I assume that they actually contain an oil base derived from mint plants. I could be way off on that one though.

My Personal Opinion...

Vaping any Oil Based e-Liquid should be Avoided.

The easiest way to Know if a Flavoring is Oil Base is if it Separates in an e-Liquid. If you have to Shake UP an e-Liquid that it is Probably contains an Oil Based e-Liquid.

And if a person just Has to Use an Oil Based Flavoring, It should be stored in a Glass Container. If someone has a Background in Chemistry and knows the Exact Type of Plastic that an e-Liquid Bottle is Made of then He/She could make a Determination as to whether or not the Plastic Bottle is Chemically Stable to store the e-Liquid/Flavoring.

But most of us do Not have Advanced Degrees in Chemistry. So using Oil Based Flavorings in Random Plastic Bottles becomes kinda a Crap Shoot.

I have heard some people say that there is Nothing Wrong with using Plastic because there Flavorings came in Plastic Containers. This is a Fallacy of Total Inclusion. Just because Polypropylene maybe stable in contact with a given Chemical Compound Doesn't mean that Polyvinyl Chloride is.

Look at what happened to Marcella's Bottles in the above Post. Do you want to Vape an e-Liquid that was stored those Bottles?
 

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Look at what happened to Marcella's Bottles in the above Post. Do you want to Vape an e-Liquid that was stored those Bottles?

Good point. I guess the dropper tops are out. How crappy would it be to wake up one day and your droppers are melted into your juice?
It already takes a week for me to get stuff, and then you would have to wait even longer for another bottle plus time to let it steep depending on what it is.
I could see where that would be problematic. I could always have a meal or plastic top on the bottle and just keep a dropper on hand for when you want to use it, or transfer it from one of my glass bottles. The European dropper bottles did look kind of cool though. Definitely different.
 

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Maybe a Question you should ask yourself is "Do I Really want to Vape an e-Liquid that Melts Plastics?"

Thats also true, the juice that was in question in the first place does taste a little off. The first time I had it, I went through it quickly and didn't notice anything. After letting it sit for a while it had a strange taste.
I think I found a replacement it, I am going to see how HHV bladerunner works out for me. Mint and vanilla was a good mix, but not if it could possibly have adverse affects due to eating my bottles.
 

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Maybe a Silly Question, but do you freeze your liquids? Can you freeze liquids in the glass bottles either amber or blue glass as shown?

I don't, but I am sure that if you left room at the top of the glass for the liquid to exapnd you should be fine. I wouldn't see it as being much different than throwing a brand new bottle of vodka into the freezer for a few days, so it probably wont hurt.
 

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I always leaned towards glass bottles, but now I see people writing about the rubber in the cap being a risk? sounds too complicated...

Now I have stored and transfered perfume and perfume oils in many types of plastic bottles, some seemed to last for months, but I have seen some that melted within a week. I am sure e-liquid would not degrade plastic at the same rate (save for potent flavors)...but it seems that plastic is safe for a couple of months, or so I think.

Now to those considering freezing e-liquid, again, speaking from a perfume background, that is not a good idea. Exposing a chemical compound which you do not understand completely to extreme temperatures on both ends of the spectrum can ruin it. Putting them in a fridge is more reasonable (I know many people who bought some of these small, wine fridges, for perfume, some had a glass door which looked pretty cool), but freezing them might ruin the flavor. But again, this might not apply to e-liquid, so do not take my word on it, just keep in mind extreme temperatures is always a risky idea, cold is better than hot for sure though.
 

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I always leaned towards glass bottles, but now I see people writing about the rubber in the cap being a risk? sounds too complicated...

Now I have stored and transfered perfume and perfume oils in many types of plastic bottles, some seemed to last for months, but I have seen some that melted within a week. I am sure e-liquid would not degrade plastic at the same rate (save for potent flavors)...but it seems that plastic is safe for a couple of months, or so I think.
I haven't considered the bottle tops? I don't lay my bottles down:facepalm:, as far as plastic is concerned, do you really want BPA (CH3)2C(C6H4OH)2 to leech into your juice? Here in the UK we've had many issues regarding BPA and it's safety, there is a huge movement to enforce its removal. Now, most Baby Bottles and Toys (teething apparatus) are BPA Free, but still no change on canned foods etc. sadly. For me it's Not worth the risk.:|

I don't, but I am sure that if you left room at the top of the glass for the liquid to exapnd you should be fine. I wouldn't see it as being much different than throwing a brand new bottle of vodka into the freezer for a few days, so it probably wont hurt.
I use glass bottles to store my Nic -in the fridge, and have the little amber ones for juice, I was wondering if freezing required Special glass. If anyone has tried it with these types of bottles, or if there are specific freeze-able ones?
 

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Maybe a Silly Question, but do you freeze your liquids? Can you freeze liquids in the glass bottles either amber or blue glass as shown?

I would Not Suggest putting a Dropper Top Bottle in the Freezer. Or Any Boston Style Bottle for that matter. The Dropper Tops are Not Meant to be Frozen.

If you want to Freeze your e-Liquids or Nicotine Base, I would Suggest a Straight Walled Jar with a Standard Lid like this...

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Cobalt Blue Glass Jar 4 oz w/ Std Black Lid
 
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