Go Big? or Go Home?

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Deschain

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The 510 is a great starter model, mine got me off smokes, so I have a lot of love for it, but the KR808D-1 is also winning over a lot of people here...

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The problem with a big mod is (as somebody else pointed out) that you might feel a tad uncomfortable using it in a bar or on the street.

That said, if you take to e-cigs, you will probably be looking to get one eventually, but I still think a good "generic" e-cig is best to start with.


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I would have to suggest the 510 as well. I started out with the M401 and I love it but the atties die to quick for me. Soon after I got the M401 I found a used 510 setup here in the classified and got it. I have yet to kill an atty and I have put them to the test. Same one I started with I'm using on a 5 volt mod I did and it's still going strong. I have alot of faith in the 510 atties. You can't go wrong with it as your starter, the price is right, durable,and upgradeable(several mods).
 

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hey everyone, newbie here.

I've been researching through the forum for a good while and am learning every day. and I'm sorry if this question has already been asked but as a newbie would you recommend i get a starter kit like the Joye 501 or go straight to the mods for my first (i.e the chuck, silver bullet etc.)?

If you wish to follow the journey of many vapers on this forum, buy a 901 or 801 and experience a vaping device as it was originally designed. Note the things you would like to improve (i.e. throat hit, vapor production, battery life, etc.) and use that as a starting point for purchasing a new device.

Lots of folks are very satisfied with super mini devices (M401), mini devices (DSE901) or penstyle devices (SLB801, BE112). If so, stick with what works for you in your situation.

A very big plus for any custom battery pack device is that you can use longer-lasting batteries than typical screw-in batteries for atomizers you want to run at 3.7 volts (a voltage that screw-in batteries generally supply). This is fantastic as you are not needing to constantly recharge batteries throughout the day, rather, you can often operate your atomizer for a full day on one battery that is available from many sources.

Another plus for using a modified, custom device is that you can often use different atomizers on the same battery pack with the purchase of inexpensive adapters. If your device came with an 801 adapter, you could buy an 801>901 adapter and use another atomizer on the same battery pack. No need to keep buying starter kits. Cool, huh?

If you wish to experience high-voltage vaping (HVV), many commercially available battery packs can run at 3.7 and 6 volts. You may need to purchase an optional adapter to be able to vape at high voltage. For me, I prefer a device that feeds 6 volts to my atomizer. There is a lot of versatility in custom battery packs. You need to decide how much versatility you want.
 
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oldtechno

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I'd recommend the JOYE 510 (no box version) from Cignot.com

You get;
2 atomizers
2 batteries
5 factory filled cartrides (usually marlboro low,med,high nicotine assortment)
1 charger

for $35.00

If you go that route, I'd advise getting 24mg smoke juice, and some mixing juice to cut it down some (it's cheaper that way)

WELCOME ABOARD!
 

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If you wish to follow the journey of many vapers on this forum, buy a 901 or 801 and experience a vaping device as it was originally designed. Note the things you would like to improve (i.e. throat hit, vapor production, battery life, etc.) and use that as a starting point for purchasing a new device.

Lots of folks are very satisfied with super mini devices (M401), mini devices (DSE901) or penstyle devices (SLB801, BE112). If so, stick with what works for you in your situation.

I agree with the Chef :thumb:

I started with a 901/RN 4075 , Ok after the initial WOW it did start to drive me nuts.

But if I had to do it all again I would do exactly the same thing as it is an excellent device to learn with.

Walk before you run ;)
 

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Can only speak for myself, but the guy who initially showed me his e-cig said he had tried two other brands / kits and the V4L (his opinion) was by far the best. So I ordered the "Ultimate Ultimatuum Kit" ($89.95 + shipping) and have been extremely pleased. Haven't had an analog since the kit arrived.

2 metal carrying cases (one is a portable charging case)
2 batteries
6 cartomizers (disposable or refillable)
3 5ml bottles assorted juices
1 passthrough (plugs into USB for vaping at your computer)
1 wall charger
 

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In my opinion, this is what a new guy has to deal with:

1) the insane minions of the V4L cartomizer crowd (thousands of them will approach you)
2) The cult of <place mod name here> approaching you.

As a user of everything imaginable, and an unlikely poster in these kinds of threads, let me tell you how it actually is.


Get a 510 kit. Any 510 kit that has the name "joye" associated with it. If for some reason the battery life boggles you, even after having your PCC revelation, get the CHEAPEST 3.7v 510 atomizer mod you can find.

There's a rather large subset of us I like to call "the lost". We are the people that have experienced high voltage vaping. Don't be one of us if you can help it. Stick with a 510 at 3.7V for as long as you can. You will find that there are plenty of inexpensive mods (protege, mini-chuck, mini-t, GG-Mini, Janty Stick, etc) that you can employ to increase your battery life for a 510 at low volts. If you DO cross the boundaries and enter the heaven/hell that is high voltage vaping, PM me. I wont' steer you wrong. Nobody on these forums could say otherwise.
 

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I think after you've made the "kit" decision, the next would be the e-liquid (flavors, strengths, etc.).

It's been a week of vaping (and COMPLETELY off analogs BTW) and now I'm just trying to find my balance of strengths (26 mg was too strong to start - but I'm finding the lesser mg too weak right now)...

Flavors are daunting.... and absolutely subjective. Got a sampler pack from Besteciggy (10 - 3ml flavors for $10 + $5 shipping) that I'm trying out now - but its tough as I think I'll need as many attys as flavors!
 

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If you wish to follow the journey of many vapers on this forum, buy a 901 or 801 and experience a vaping device as it was originally designed. Note the things you would like to improve (i.e. throat hit, vapor production, battery life, etc.) and use that as a starting point for purchasing a new device.

I wholeheartedly agree and offer only this on top of chef's advice: Just pick something and go, if you get a 901, 801 or 510 starter kit you will end up not regretting in in the long run. It will unequivocally determine whether vapeing is doable for you or not. From there you can figure out what will make you happy with vapeing in the long run.



In my opinion, this is what a new guy has to deal with:

1) the insane minions of the V4L cartomizer crowd (thousands of them will approach you)
2) The cult of <place mod name here> approaching you.

As a user of everything imaginable, and an unlikely poster in these kinds of threads, let me tell you how it actually is.


Get a 510 kit. Any 510 kit that has the name "joye" associated with it. If for some reason the battery life boggles you, even after having your PCC revelation, get the CHEAPEST 3.7v 510 atomizer mod you can find.

There's a rather large subset of us I like to call "the lost". We are the people that have experienced high voltage vaping. Don't be one of us if you can help it. Stick with a 510 at 3.7V for as long as you can. You will find that there are plenty of inexpensive mods (protege, mini-chuck, mini-t, GG-Mini, Janty Stick, etc) that you can employ to increase your battery life for a 510 at low volts. If you DO cross the boundaries and enter the heaven/hell that is high voltage vaping, PM me. I wont' steer you wrong. Nobody on these forums could say otherwise.

You forgot #3 the 510 cult... The 901, 801, 510, etc.. all have their plus and minuses....
 

maxxdog

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Howdy,

Everyone has made good points. I too suggest starting with a kit. I like the 510. With the kit you get everything that will allow you to start and allow you to find out what you like and don't like without the expense of the mod. I just ordered my first HV mod. I can't wait to try it.:D

I'd rather spend $50 and find out that vaping isn't for me than $60-100 on a mod plus all of the additional accessories.
 

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Definitely start with a starter kit. Personally, I love my 801 -- it's not big enough to turn any heads on the street, but my smoker friends all cooed over it and wanted to try. Plus, I've heard the batt life on the 510s is tolerable at best. My battery will go go go, pretty much all day. Carts are sort of a pain on this thing, but I've started dripping and it's low-hassle.

If you've ever thought you'd look cool using a cigarette holder, try one out ;) I certainly wasn't disappointed.
 

just-a-nobody

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Howdy,

Everyone has made good points. I too suggest starting with a kit. I like the 510. With the kit you get everything that will allow you to start and allow you to find out what you like and don't like without the expense of the mod. I just ordered my first HV mod. I can't wait to try it.:D

I'd rather spend $50 and find out that vaping isn't for me than $60-100 on a mod plus all of the additional accessories.

That's why I recommend the Bartleby, it costs less than what I paid for my first kit, and it has the passthrough, which doubles as the charger, along with two 14500, 3,7 volt batteries. In most kits, you will have to buy the passthrough separately. Also, this puppy puts out twice the vapor than the standard 510, but then, you will have to buy the amotizers searately, which is still cheaper than buying a passthrough. Plus the batteries last a lot longer than the 510 and the 510 mega battery.

As far as bulkyness, yes, it doesn't look like an analog, but it is compact enough to fit in your shirt pocket. It also has a on/off switch which is great for carrying around in your pocket.
 
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