FDA Godshall meets with White House OMB/OIRA again urging rejection of FDA deeming ban on vapor products

[zoiDman]

PETA has battled with the FDA many times over Animal Testing used in Regulations and Product Approvals.

PETA’s Regulatory Testing Department

 

[nicnik]

Yeah, true that.

And I wouldn't doubt that the FDA is relying on Bill's info to defend against any lawsuits from ANTZ, who are enraged that "the rules doesn't go far enough".

 

[skoony]

FDA doesn't quite have enough facts to actually propose a Rule in good faith.

It's been a long time since I read a sentence referring to a Government agency and
mentioning good faith. Come to think of it, I don't have any recollection of that ever
occurring before. I am not saying it never happened, I just don't recall.
Regards
Mike

 

[Endor]

FYI, OIRA just posted on the calendar that two additional meetings occurred in January:

1/5/16 with the Cigar Rights of America (CRA)
1/15/16 with TVECA.

So apparently they are still meeting with stakeholders, at least as of last week.

Also of note, and I have no clue what this means, the 1/5 meeting with CRA (where I'm sure they were discussing the premium cigar options) was attended by four OMB/OIRA folks and no FDA, where the TVECA meeting was only attended by one OMB/OIRA representatives and 2 FDA reps.

 

[curiousJan]

FYI, OIRA just posted on the caIendar that two additional meetings occurred in January:

1/5/16 with the Cigar Rights of America (CRA)
1/15/16 with TVECA.

So apparently they are still meeting with stakeholders, at least as of last week.

Also of note, and I have no clue what this means, the 1/5 meeting with CRA (where I'm sure they were discussing the premium cigar options) was attended by four OMB/OIRA folks and no FDA, where the TVECA meeting was only attended by one OMB/OIRA representatives and 2 FDA reps.

There are more than a few meetings not shown as "Completed", including CASAA. I'd guess this reflects information, such as attendees and their provided documentation, not entered into the system yet.

Things that make ya go Hmmmm ...

 

[DC2]

Things that make ya go Hmmmm ...

Well, CASAA did provide a boatload of information so recording all that may take awhile.
On the other hand, the cigar folks probably just passed out a few cigars and poured a few drinks.

It's possible most of what they discussed...
Was the kind of stuff you don't put into official records...

 

[EBates]

The way our govment 'works' just warms your heart, don't it. Which ever way the Money goes, so goes the govment.

 

[choochoogranny]

When "we the people" want the government to do more,.......the government gets to call the shots and hang your rights and freedoms.

 

[FishingBuffalo]

I find it questionable that Bill's meeting, Smoke Free Tennessee, and Casaa were not shown as completed.

 

[DC2]

I find it questionable that Bill's meeting, Smoke Free Tennessee, and Casaa were not shown as completed.

Would you like a Cohiba and a nice pour of Hennessey?

 

[Katya]

I find it questionable that Bill's meeting, Smoke Free Tennessee, and Casaa were not shown as completed.

Maybe they are still going through the mountain of documents that Bill and CASAA have submitted...

 

[zoiDman]

I find it questionable that Bill's meeting, Smoke Free Tennessee, and Casaa were not shown as completed.

It might be that the OMB/OIRA has requested Additional Information from both of these Meetings.

 

[FishingBuffalo]

I hope they got more proffesionalism than they thought. I looked at some of the handouts and was amazed at the level of documents provided. OMB probably did not expect vapers to have such vocabulary.

 

[LaraC]

The "American e-liquid Manufacturing Standards Association" had a meeting on December 18 at 3:00 p.m.

AEMSA's handouts provided a lot for OIRA/OMB to digest. FDA sent one of their attorneys (Jennie Gross) to that meeting:

View EO 12866 Meeting

 

[Katya]

I hope they got more proffesionalism than they thought. I looked at some of the handouts and was amazed at the level of documents provided. OMB probably did not expect vapers to have such vocabulary.

Did you see those "handouts" from AEMSA? Right on! Very professional.

Azim is a good man! Thank God for lawyers!

 

[inspects]

Did you see those "handouts" from AEMSA? Right on! Very professional.

Azim is a good man! Thank God for lawyers!

Those were a good read...!

 

[Marina2]

It was nice to see the opinions of over 10,000 ecf members make it's way into these handouts.

 

[MyMagicMist]

They're concerned that vaping will cause smokers to become extinct, so they're lobbying to have smokers declared a protected species.

ROFL

Thanks for the chuckles. Kind of needed them.