Gotvapes Stallion Hybrid Cartomiser

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Barefoot

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Gotvapes Stallion Hybrid Cartomiser
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I purchased this with my own dollars - the Opinion represented here is solely mine, having had experience of many different types of devices, Misers and Juices, and is in no way necessarily shared by this Site’s Owners, Administrators, Moderators or fellow members - unless they have also tried the product and coincidentally, and independently, come to the same conclusions - which is, quite frankly, unlikely. I present my Opinion here as Honestly as i am able, but do accept that a degree of 'Poetic Licence' may have accidentally snuck in



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Name: Stallion Hybrid Cartomiser - Empty
Type: 510 Top Coil Cartomiser – with filler
Vendor: Gotvapes
Where: USA
Cost: $9.95 for 5 (or 6.69 GBP)
Capacity: 2.2ml Real: with a 510 DT in – 1.8-2ml
Drip Tip/Mouthpiece: Can take a standard 510 DT (see below)
PG/VG: seems to wick well with both – easier with up to 50/50 tho
Fill Method: Find a Spiky Thing is easiest – tho can fill from a bottle
Breaking In: barely noticeable – but a fill before cranking it up a bit helped
Relative Size: longest cart I’ve used – 55mm inc thread
tank-ability: will fit with a bit left in a Big Daddy Tank – slot or punch (best with 3 slots)
Colour: Black sticker – should be removed and cleaned for Tank use
Potential Longevity: should be good as CE type coils tend to last a while
Rebuildable: Unlikely

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The Blurb
GotVapes and RITCHY present the GotVapes STALLION™ Hybrid 510 Cartomiser - a unique, well-performing hybrid that features less filler than a conventional filler carto, holds a whopping 2.2ml of eJuice in a top-coil design with an effective 2.0 ohm performance on a 3.0 ohm coil, thereby causing less battery drain and longer carto life. The STALLION™ is engineered for energy efficiency on the coils by utilizing a design that decreases temperature and liquid loss and provides improved airflow turbulence, all of this contributing to a delightful 2.0ohm effective performance!

The Vape
Vapour Production: Good - Excellent when slotted in a Tank
Flavour: Good enough for me - Slightly muted but better than most cartos and probably as good a Vivi Nova
Throat Hit: Medium – better than an average Top Coil
Texture: I’m liking the texture these produce – and the warmth
Wicking: Good – might need a drop in the top every half hour or so
V range: Excellent for me at 4 to 4.2v - pushing it a bit at 5V for flavour
Shape of the Vape: Liking the shape of this vape – 7.5 'naked' - 9 in a Tank


The Waffle
So a hybrid between a filler-less CE top coil and a filler carto – interesting.
Couldn’t resist trying these as I quite like top coils for the warmth of the Vape, and ordered a 5 pack of empties.

Having watched Chris’s promo vid, it seemed that if I wanted to use a normal DT (with the empty ones) then I could, but with a ‘sacrifice’ of half a ml – to me this was definitely worth it – the alternative being cutting a bit off the bottom of the supplied rubber one – Hm Cherry Vape Pawn or rubber? No contest! LoL

Apparently, if thee buy the filled ones (which are also quite good – with Ritchy’s Liqua juice) then forcing a normal DT will force out some of the pre-filled juice.

So dug out a syringe for 1st fill – somewhere between 1.8 and 2ml – so possibly lost just under half a ml capacity. I made sure that the filler round the coil was wet too and gave it a vape. Not bad at all!

The whoosh of a Top Coil, instead of the crackle of a carto. Flavour is less muted than a Boge, more similar to the Vivi mini, with more TH than the mini. Vapour production is good, especially as thee crank up the V’s.

I quite like Cartos for tobacco juices – the slightly muted flavour and extra TH seem a more ‘authentic’ tobacco-esque experience to me.

The Stallions can be stripped of their label and glue, and then punched or slotted and popped in a DCT or the Big Daddy Tank – with Stallion to spare. I made the holes to small at the first attempt, and performance was OK – it improved quite a bit once I’d made the holes bigger though.

My only real issue thus far is that I seem to need to check that the top round the coil hasn’t dried out too much – but only every half hour or so – so a doddle with a Spiky Thing. This could be down to user error but it’s not a biggy.

Update:
So eventually dug out me 'Dremmel' and stripped another Stallion - this time having read of the benefits on Gotvapes ECF subforum - especially when i mentioned the dry filler round the coil. Slotting and popping in the Big Daddy (or any DCT may do?) has turned the Stallion from Tame to Wild - No drying of the filler round the coil - Clouds of Vapour and a nice warm vape due to the Top Coil. Every now and then hold upside down which remoistens the filler round the coil. 5 days so far and no drop off at all - and tasting better too

Summary
Cons:
Having to check to make sure the top round the coil is damp – even in a tank

These are very long and even in the Big Daddy – leave about half a cm visible

Losing capacity to be able to use a standard 510 DT

The blanks only come in Black – so have to remove the sticker to Tank them

Possibility of Dry Hits if the top dries out too much

Hard to tell when empty as can’t see thy juice level

Can go through juice fast when in a Tank

Pros:
Easy to fill: with a Spiky Thing, syringe or even a long nozzled bottle

Can fit a Standard 510 Drip Tip – tho will lose up to 0.5ml to do so

Unlike some CE2’s show no signs of leakage and metal so tube strong enough

Relatively cheap at less than a quid 50 each

Loverly warmth for a carto – especially if used to cartos in a Tank

General Lack of Gurgliness - Excellent from a Top Coil

When Slotted and popped in a Tank - Truly come into their own!

Value For Money:
So far I’d say the Stallions offer good VFM – depending of course on durability. As most Top Coils seem to last me at least a week and often 2+, these could turnout to be a real winner.

At the moment I’m a bit torn about which way I prefer them: in a carto tank or by themselves. This is at least partly because I have a preference for a 2mlish capacity, which they have and getting an eGo cone from GV that fits nicely over them – giving the lone Stallion a pleasingly sleek look.

I do like this Hybrid concept, and as a starting point, for me at least I’ve been pleasantly surprised – do far!

Update
Instead of punching holes (tho a few may do?) when slotted with a 'Rotary Tool' the Stallion truly comes into it's own - Clouds of warm Vapour, Good Flavour, Medium Throat Hit and a Good Shape to the Vape - At less than a quid 50 each, and looking like they may last a couple of weeks in a tank without drop off - these could be the best value carto for a Tank - DC's don't give me this much Flavour and i can live without the TH

Slotted and in a Big Daddy Tank - i'd give the Stallion an overall 9 out of 10

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WallyO

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Cheers Bad - loving these now they're slotted - a real WoW! ;)

What's the highest point of your slots. I slot them horizontally. I have one where I slotted near the bottom and middle but left the top alone. it's workink OK but when I take the tip off the upper filler does not look wet but I am not getting dry hits either. Shouild I add a higher slot up around the coil or will that produce flooding?
 

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These Stallions have been, and still are, to my experience, one of the best cartos going. I'm toward the end of the 4th week on two of them, which I converted to tank use after about 2 tubefulls, and these are still godd for th, vape and flavor, cleaning them every 3 tankfills or so. Another 2, in tanks, are going strong usuing my 50/50 swamp-goo juice(homemade). I went to punching 3 moderate sized holes as the 2 bigger holes I punched in the first 2 made getting past the bottom cap a bit difficult due to deforming the casing. I will probably go to slotting, making sure there's no rough edges around the slot.

Properly used and cleaned these seem to have a very good longevity and th, vape and flavor are certainly pleasant.

Rver, on another thread, has several of his well into 6 weeks and still going strong.

All things considered I think these pretty damned good, particularly used in tanks.
 

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I started using the first 2 on July 21 and those 2 still are going well with no sign of failing...I use a saddle valve and after punching thru I give it another 3/4 turn to make the hole larger...so far I see no reason to punch a 3rd hole...but that's just my method and does not mean its correct LOL/ the second 2 have been in operation for 3 weeks (2 tanks) now. In my poinion they are the best carts that I have messed with and I have bouhgt many different kinds in the last year. If you are a cart person, I don't think you could go wrong with these "horses".
 

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I have been going on with the CTO at Ritchy and they follow this forum (our subforum) closely. They are developing their own tank solution.

On the next re-order we are also getting laser-etched stainless.

Barefeet, as always, well organized review and the fact that you loved them, all the better...

Have thee a good day : )
 

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I put horizontal slots in mine. Got a beautiful narrow diamond dremel cut off wheel just for this. Lower one is 9/16 from the bottom and the top one is 7/8 from the bottom. It's working well but on my next one I'm going to try 1 1/8" from the bottom for the top slot. That may be too high though. We'll see. The coil sits 1 1/2" from the bottom.
 

keelalagirl55

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By the way I need a little help, Ricthy is wanting some feedback on placement of holes in a stainless carto if you want them pre-punched...

I'm wondering...and gonna have to try it ;)...if 2 small slots would work well....one on the bottom, and the other on the other side of the carto about half way up.
 

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Well, I haven't slotted one yet, I've only used a couple of pre-filled, and I would have to give them 6 out of 10. I'm not overly fond of these as yet, but in my next order I think will include some blanks so I can tank 'em. Hopefully by the time I order again, they will be stainless and pre-slotted or punched to save me a little work.....
 

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By the way I need a little help, Ricthy is wanting some feedback on placement of holes in a stainless carto if you want them pre-punched...

I put horizontal slots in mine. Got a beautiful narrow diamond dremel cut off wheel just for this. Lower one is 9/16 from the bottom and the top one is 7/8 from the bottom. It's working well but on my next one I'm going to try 1 1/8" from the bottom for the top slot. That may be too high though. We'll see. The coil sits 1 1/2" from the bottom.

I pretty much go along with WallyO's original heights above the bottom. Seems to feed/wick well as long as holes are sized sufficiently.

I think I'd like the SS version fine, but I'd still like to punch/slot mine myself. I'd like that option.

I do hope the man'f'r doesn't "fix" much else. Scary thought.
 

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Dodari--we are getting both in the stainless --so you guys would rather have slotted? I can realistically only get one (slotted or pre-punched) ...


And by the way--no we don't want them 'fixing' anything, even appeal for little less filler, I think we should leave that alone...as these have been out in the wild it doesn't apear to be suffering in the flavor department and they are gettigng good life...
 
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