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Cranky99

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Ahlusion's gonna quit online sales some day huh, I wonder long you can store the tobaccos before they go bad....guess i better start stocking up on some since i won't like it as much without my strong flavor customization.

I was just thinking how this completely changes them. Much of the appeal is how they mix for each customer. Wonder how many people won't like it after this change.
 

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I was just thinking how this completely changes them. Much of the appeal is how they mix for each customer. Wonder how many people won't like it after this change.

It truly does...however in said message Wlad says unless it is on ahlusion.us then it is not from them SO until on their site it says no longer filling orders then I have to disregard such information. Aaaaand I'll be royally effed because it's all I really order now.
 

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I was just thinking how this completely changes them. Much of the appeal is how they mix for each customer. Wonder how many people won't like it after this change.

I know that my shipwreck tastes a lot better (for me) with the customizations I asked for-it's ok without it but so much better with extra coconut and bolder flavor

I wonder how long it will be before they stop online sales

That email is gonna start a surge of panic and paranoia in the ahlusion loving community, lol
 

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I was just looking at the description, it mentions "Nuanced and light", did you try it in your taifun? I forget-I suppose you did. Well, let it rest for a few weeks and see what happens i guess....

Have you tried it? I did not try it in the Taifun yet because I am not 100% confident with it yet and don't always get it back together right and sometimes lose all my juice on my desk. Did not want that to happen to something I only have 15 mls of
 

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Have you tried it? I did not try it in the Taifun yet because I am not 100% confident with it yet and don't always get it back together right and sometimes lose all my juice on my desk. Did not want that to happen to something I only have 15 mls of

I don't have it. I do have the route 2 blend though which is nice, it's not bold but not mild either, decent blend but i wouldn't reorder that one.

I'd like to find a really nutty vape (without banana). So far Vapor Trails NW's Teddy Pear is the best nutty vape i've had. I could vape that stuff all day, it has a nice complexity. I know the site doesn't look very gourmet but they have some really good stuff.
 
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Chanel,
Normall I agree with you, but you are way off base here.
This has nothing to do with how an owner wants to run a business. It has to do with presenting your product so that first time customers enjoy the product.

You almost sound snobbish about it. Please, just stop..........
Nobody wants a bad buying experience, and if a business owner can make an easy change to insure a good buying experience, then they should.

I refuse to argue about it, because saying a guy isn't vying for business is insanity. Sure, Wlad may be running at capacity now, but if enough customers virally discuss a bad experience during purchase, it spreads like wildfire.

Just because YOU get it, when ordering, doesn't mean the other 98% do. We discuss things here, the masses don't. So, when you use phrases like "He could care less if folks approve", I just wanna puke. :)

Why wouldn't he want to make the buying experience as good as possible with one small tweak to default to the most recommended VG/PG ratio for a flavor?

I just can't believe Wlad would say something like that. Guess I'll just email him this page of the thread, and get it from the horse's mouth. :)

seems like you have a bit of an ax to grind with ahlusion, a business thing more than a vaper thing? just curious....
 

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Soo mid vape just now POOF. Good bye taste buds. UGHHH. Silly pollen you're driving me BONKERS :grr:

yeah vaper tongue here for two days now, been vaping up all my little sample bottles, unicorn poop is gone, almost done with VV's cherry marshmallow (a nice vape-creamy and smooth, if there was a little more cherry strength it'd be perfect).


He's banned now. Again.

i didn't realize...well he'll be back i bet
 

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I disagree there Chanel.
It's beyond me why a website doesn't optimize their OWN site for maximum usability and customer satisfaction.
Think how many customers they lost after one time purchases, that just took the default mix ratio that appeared for a flavor?
Those flavor pages are all script/template driven, so it would take very little programming time to database the suggested blend ratio for each flavor, and then default the dropdown from the flavor/product database.

Shame on 'em! :)
If we're still talking about Ahlusion, I get the impression that they don't care too much about their customers. From their sample stinginess and the way they word some of what's on the site ("Lemon Cake is not offered as a sample and NEVER WILL!") to what you pointed out here with the ratios not being defaulted properly. They are apparently aware that this has caused issues and their reply was basically "we know there's a problem but there's nothing we can do about it right now so you're S.O.L. if you don't happen to read the paragraphs below the product" (it may have been a separate issue regarding the fact that you can't see the reviews for the juices unless you log on but it's the same kind of issue... web site related)
 

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yeah vaper tongue here for two days now, been vaping up all my little sample bottles, unicorn poop is gone, almost done with VV's cherry marshmallow (a nice vape-creamy and smooth, if there was a little more cherry strength it'd be perfect).


i didn't realize...well he'll be back i bet

Mine has never been so bad that I can literally taste absolutely nothing, but that's how this is. Nada. Zilch.
 

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Chanel, it's really just about running your business with "Your" customers in mind.
I owned a tech company for 15 years during the Internet start up through last year, and it always irked me to see web sites not optimized with their customer's best interest in mind.

Nobody is questioning that Ahlusion make's great juice. BUT, if you accidentally mislead customers to VG/PG ratio's that are not the best ratio to make the flavor shine, then you are just hurting yourself. For every one customer that figures out that the default VG/PG ratio is not what Ahlusion recommends, there are probably 9 that just say to themself, "This juice sucks, I won't be ordering here again"..

We saw the same thing with FSV. Many were ordering 100% VG, and wondered what all the rave was about that vendor, as at 100% VG the juice lacked flavor.

So, it's not a different strokes for different folks. It's running your business to optimize the customer experience. It's really not that difficult. :)

But the difference, for me, with FSV is that FSV customer service is great. So in their instance, I don't think that it's a lack of concern for their customers as much as just general ignorance. The layout of their site in general is not the greatest. Kind of hard to navigate. But I guarantee you that if I were to message them about it, their response would be better than "we know there's an issue but don't care enough to fix it"
 

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If we're still talking about Ahlusion, I get the impression that they don't care too much about their customers. From their sample stinginess and the way they word some of what's on the site ("Lemon Cake is not offered as a sample and NEVER WILL!") to what you pointed out here with the ratios not being defaulted properly. They are apparently aware that this has caused issues and their reply was basically "we know there's a problem but there's nothing we can do about it right now so you're S.O.L. if you don't happen to read the paragraphs below the product" (it may have been a separate issue regarding the fact that you can't see the reviews for the juices unless you log on but it's the same kind of issue... web site related)

I'm with you on this. Seems to me their customer service level depends on their mood when you contact them. Truthfully because of this, they are probably better suited to go soly wholesale. Less stress of direct customer service for them to have to deal with. JMO.

I do like their product but I won't rely on them as my one and only vendor. I don't think it's wise to rely on one vendor for anything, anyway.
 

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Yeah, I've never considered the default drop down to be the recommended ratio-but it would be awfully easy to get 90%VG by accident that way. The thing that is really odd about their site is that you can't see the product reviews unless you're logged in, no one else does that, what in the world is the purpose of that?



so that's the reason they make them that way....



I have a lot of flavors from free state and all but one is 100%VG, and they all have a lot more flavor than Ahlusion at 90VG, most have plenty of flavor (and everyone knows I have damaged taste buds). But I had my first Ahlusion order sitting here at 90VG (because i chose that not because it defaulted) and it had no flavor even after 3 months which makes me wonder why they even have that choice on site, and I also wonder why they can't make adjustments to their blend at high VG.

Anyway, as far as marketing goes, why do some have no description of their flavors, and why do so many high end brands have no additional info on their ingredients (PG/VG ratio, diacetyl, etc)? You'd think if you're paying more for something you could at least be given that much. Hell you'd think they could give you a chemical analysis like nude nicotine does with each order.

I responded about the same thing (no reviews unless you're logged in) before reading your comment and I agree. It's really weird and annoying. It's part of the reason I did not order from them for so long and if not for all the people raving about it on here, I never would have. I'm still not even sure that I like them as it's taking forever for my juices to steep. (and I got the 50/50 blend)
I also agree about FSV's 100% VG being far superior as far as the strength of the flavor. They included a full size sample of their 100% Lychee Pear and straight out of the box it was vapable. (and pretty tasty) I am letting it steep, just because but that's impressive. I have NEVER cared for any of the 100% VG juices I have tried, including the highly coveted Virgin Vapors, even after months of steeping and aerating them.
 

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I'm with you on this. Seems to me their customer service level depends on their mood when you contact them. Truthfully because of this, they are probably better suited to go soly wholesale. Less stress of direct customer service for them to have to deal with. JMO.

I do like their product but I won't rely on them as my one and only vendor. I don't think it's wise to rely on one vendor for anything, anyway.

I agree with you, there. I saw some of the aftermath of the Ms. T's debacle. So many people lost and wondering what to do. If a vendor is one of a few that you know you like, it's easier to grieve your favorite juice and move on.
 

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Mine has never been so bad that I can literally taste absolutely nothing, but that's how this is. Nada. Zilch.

yeah at least i can taste something, but not much. i can't seem to get myself to drink enough water lately...

can anyone recommend a nice zesty pineapple flavor, one with a little tartness like real pineapple? or also a good plum with the same qualities.
 

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I was just thinking how this completely changes them. Much of the appeal is how they mix for each customer. Wonder how many people won't like it after this change.
I'm confused. What changed? Are they not making juices to order anymore? Not selling online anymore (if so, where will they sell) I feel like I missed something.
 

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yeah at least i can taste something, but not much. i can't seem to get myself to drink enough water lately...

can anyone recommend a nice zesty pineapple flavor, one with a little tartness like real pineapple? or also a good plum with the same qualities.

My FSV tasted just like fresh pineapple juice to me. Too much, almost. I couldn't vape it for too long at a time.
 
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