Halo Drama?

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Apparently the company that owns Halo is suing other e-liquid companies over the use of their trademarked "names" like VAPOR and EVO.

Not sure on the exact details but you can trademark the word vapor? News to me.
http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2uoe68/evolve_eliquid_shuts_doors_due_to_federal_lawsuit/
https://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits...opure-labs-llc-v-atomized-labs/related-cases/

Seems pretty scummy. The higher ups need to get a clue and not destroy this brand's repetition.
 

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There are two instances called 'Halo'. one is in the U.S. and is the one represented by this board. The other is a product line based by a company in the U.K. based company that is known for knock offs and cheap juices.

It seems that NicoPure and Halo -might- both be run from the larger Trident, at arms length at that. my guess is that they are subsidiary companies that are run independently.

The issue here is there is a ton of speculation, and no facts.
 

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Mornin' Dave...

I think Kleenex is trademarked as is the term 'realtor' amongst others.

Starbucks trademarked the term Christmas Coffee and took the Vashon Island WA monks to court over it... they had been selling it for years as a fund-raiser for their monastery. Wasn't good PR for them but great for the monks... after Starbucks backed off the enforcement of that one. Business is booming for both these days but I still don't buy Starbucks. Not because of this but really none in my area... probably 90 miles to the nearest. I have Sheetz for coffee, as good or better and about half the price.
 

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Apparently the company that owns Halo is suing other e-liquid companies over the use of their trademarked "names" like VAPOR and EVO.

Not sure on the exact details but you can trademark the word vapor? News to me.
http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_...e_eliquid_shuts_doors_due_to_federal_lawsuit/
https://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits...opure-labs-llc-v-atomized-labs/related-cases/

Seems pretty scummy. The higher ups need to get a clue and not destroy this brand's repetition.

Hello all,

Let me start by saying it is never our goal to be on either end of a lawsuit, particularly one that involves another industry-related company. It offers us no pleasure, and is never gratifying regardless of the outcome. We have however spent 5 years developing our brands, and must protect the best interests of our company, its employees, and its loyal customers and resellers. Unfortunately, if we choose to look the other way and not enforce our intellectual property rights, then we are diluting the value of our own brand.

Nicopure Labs has invested millions of dollars into securing the intellectual property rights of our trademarks. Although it may appear on your end that we are bullying a smaller company, we are simply trying to keep others from stealing the intellectual property we developed through years of hard work. We ourselves have been accused of trademark violations in the past through lawsuits, and we too were forced to make some very tough decisions. Those decisions were made based on a vision of longevity for Nicopure Labs, and we did not complicate the matter with slanderous comments about the other companies involved. This vision of longevity is also the reason we take great precaution to ensure the integrity of our liquids and the brands that represent them. Longevity is not achieved through slander on the internet, but is achieved by operating within the rules of business that have been laid out before you and maintaining your integrity along the way.

It is accurate that Nicopure Labs has filed a law suit against Evolve E-liquid for their infringement on our EVO trademark. Contrary to the rumors being passed around, Nicopure Labs does not own a trademark for the individual term “Vapor”, which by itself is simply a descriptive word. That being said, we do have other terms that include the word “Vapor”, but not that term by itself.

Unfortunately a heated debate has begun with only one side being represented. Instead of Atomized Labs trying to resolve this issue amicably, they unfortunately have chosen to escalate a situation that had originally contained many solutions, by posting a thread stating “Tell Corporate America that You Will Not Tolerate the Bullying of Smaller Companies! Drop Lawsuit against Atomized Labs, LLC Evolve E-liquid”. I really wish they would have contacted us directly to resolve this instead of taking this route.
 

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Unfortunately a heated debate has begun with only one side being represented. Instead of Atomized Labs trying to resolve this issue amicably, they unfortunately have chosen to escalate a situation that had originally contained many solutions, by posting a thread stating “Tell Corporate America that You Will Not Tolerate the Bullying of Smaller Companies! Drop Lawsuit against Atomized Labs, LLC Evolve E-liquid”. I really wish they would have contacted us directly to resolve this instead of taking this route.

I am also curious about this accusation of Atomized/Evolve "escalating" the situation. I saw that post in question (on the subreddit Electronic_Cigarette) and do not recall it being posted by, or by any relation of, Atomized/Evolve. It was a concerned vaper turned vigilante. From what I have seen, Evolve did nothing but alert it's endearing fans of it's unfortunate demise and even refused to name who it was filing the lawsuit. It took one of ECR's constant busy-bodies to figure that one out.

Please do correct me if I am wrong on this matter. That is why I am asking for clarification! :D
 

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I am also curious about this accusation of Atomized/Evolve "escalating" the situation. I saw that post in question (on the subreddit Electronic_Cigarette) and do not recall it being posted by, or by any relation of, Atomized/Evolve. It was a concerned vaper turned vigilante. From what I have seen, Evolve did nothing but alert it's endearing fans of it's unfortunate demise and even refused to name who it was filing the lawsuit. It took one of ECR's constant busy-bodies to figure that one out.

Please do correct me if I am wrong on this matter. That is why I am asking for clarification! :D

I believe they're talking about this link: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/690/...t-tolerate-the-bullying-of-smaller-companies/
 

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"We don't like filing law suits... so we filed a law suit."

It would be justice for Microsoft to sue Halo for name infringement.

I'm all for a company's right to protect their intellectual property and interests but certainly a Cease and Desist should have been sufficient and would be better received by the community (AKA the people you want money from).
 

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It is not clear that there was or wasn't communication between the 2 companies prior to the filing.

And Atomized Labs can go forward with a new name. I would hope they go through the trademark protection of the new name.

Microsoft is not losing sales or credibility or is suffering damages due to Nicopure's Halo. They do not compete.
 
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