Has anybody experienced any side effects from vaping?

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It's easy to want to believe that what the "educated" are telling us is accurate. We often want to believe that if we don't understand it, it's bad. Looks like smoke, must be bad! Cigarettes are bad, vaping must be! Some ppl unfortunately would rather believe what's on tv, rather than become self educated. It's a war that will never end. Just the same as those who claim to have severe negative, physical side effects from vaping. Which I find very difficult to believe, unless they were using something entirely different, not intended for use.

I'd have to agree; even the foot/ankle swelling is more of an annoyance than anything else (it makes the backs of my calves hurt, near the bottom just above the ankle -- I've started wearing ace bandages to give the muscles there more support). I'm sure some folks, faced with it, would just go "well that's it for me, can't vape, guess I'll smoke again" -- which is typical "addict thinking." But I don't WANT to smoke again, so I'll keep dealing with it as seems necessary -- cutting down PG, drinking more water, taking time-outs to elevate my legs, etc. I figure anything vaping does to me, it's far less of a health issue than what would eventually have resulted from smoking.

I suppose it *is* possible for someone to have, or develop, a severe allergy to one or more components of e-juice, and allergies can be a serious matter, if you get into the anaphylaxis category. But it seems that PG is pretty much everywhere, so if someone had that violent an allergy to it, they'd probably know, or know soon after starting its use. Flavors might be more problematic than PG, I would think, as far as allergies. I agree that most of what people ascribe to vaping is more likely to be side-effects of quitting smoking, or pure imagination -- you can imagine yourself right into the emergency room, if you're not careful; it's funny because if you say something is "psychosomatic" people think you're accusing them of making it up; in fact, the brain *is* making it up, but that doesn't make you any less sick, it just means it has a psychological rather than organic cause -- the brain controls everything going on in the body, after all, and the brain is quite susceptible to addiction -- it wants what it wants; it takes *mind* to determine that what the brain wants is not good for it, and must be stopped, no matter what signals the brain is sending.

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I suppose it *is* possible for someone to have, or develop, a severe allergy to one or more components of e-juice, and allergies can be a serious matter, if you get into the anaphylaxis category. But it seems that PG is pretty much everywhere, so if someone had that violent an allergy to it, they'd probably know, or know soon after starting its use. Flavors might be more problematic than PG, I would think, as far as allergies. I agree that most of what people ascribe to vaping is more likely to be side-effects of quitting smoking, or pure imagination -- you can imagine yourself right into the emergency room, if you're not careful; it's funny because if you say something is "psychosomatic" people think you're accusing them of making it up; in fact, the brain *is* making it up, but that doesn't make you any less sick, it just means it has a psychological rather than organic cause -- the brain controls everything going on in the body, after all, and the brain is quite susceptible to addiction -- it wants what it wants; it takes *mind* to determine that what the brain wants is not good for it, and must be stopped, no matter what signals the brain is sending.

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That's exactly why we need to know what's in our juice. If my ejuice has a Peanut based oil/flavoring, and I'm allergic to peanuts....

There's several studies goin on about the effects of vaping on diabetics, copd, and asthma afflictions. Today is Safety Sunday on my fb page, perhaps I'll find some articles to utilize.
 

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I'm waking up with an extremely dry mouth in the morning despite drinking water as I vape and before going to bed.
The morning cough now only happens after drinking some water and once the phlegm is out I start feeling like I have clean lungs.

Here's a puzzling one: my desk and keyboard have become self-cleaning! :blink:

Reducing the pg content by approx 5-10% may reduce some of the dry mouth. I use a diy 40/60 blend and still get dry mouth in the am.
 

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Since most of what people encounter are seen among people who quit smoking by any means, I question whether vaping has "side effects" beyond minor dehydration because of the way the vapor is formed and maybe the periodic allergy (which, being an allergic reaction to one or a few contents of the liquids, would not necessarily be a "vaping side effect" really).

The sole element in vaping that isn't widely used across many, many consumer products, foods, and medications is the nicotine. And the "side effects" of nicotine are what we're pursuing really...
 

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Interesting thread.

Been vaping now for about 5 months. Vape pretty hard setups in my drippers. If I have a heavy vaping day, I can sometimes get an irritated throat. Sore lungs may happen. Although I think certain juices don't agree with me. You can feel the smoothness in the juice. Like space jam andromeda for example. Although I do like this juice and even got a 2nd bottle. You can feel the harshness and a night of dripping that constantly is certain to give me a sore throat.

Headache can happen also if I overdo it. Dehydration too.

But these are all lessons you learn in the beginning and you will see what agrees with you and what doesn't.

I vape 0 and 6mg.

I read somewhere, and have since heard it from several other sources, that the most common cause of headache is dehydration itself. I used to get headaches all the time, which were problematic because if I didn't take an aspirin within half an hour of first feeling it, it would turn into a migraine - one of the most unpleasant experiences in life. But I got tired of taking an ibuprofen or aspirin every time I started to get a headache. So after I heard that bit about dehydration I began to closely monitor my own water intake. I noticed that if I did start to get a headache, and just drank a lot of water instead of taking an aspirin or other pain reliever, the headache would go away exactly as if I had. Since I started drinking water throughout the day, no more headaches. No more migraines, either. Not for years, and no change when I started vaping.
So, I think when you say you get dehydrated sometimes, and sometimes get a headache, these things are probably related. Just my opinion but from my own experience there seems to be a disctinct connection.
 

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Reducing the pg content by approx 5-10% may reduce some of the dry mouth. I use a diy 40/60 blend and still get dry mouth in the am.

Thanks,
My GF just gave me some pure VG, so I'll try diluting a bit. It's not a big issue, as I can breathe just fine, but I wouldn't be able to answer the phone before having a few good gulps of water. I believe that happens after chain vaping all day.
 

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Some helpful info on this thread, especially about being nic drunk. I discovered a pg sensitivity that was dehydrating me, destroying my nasal passages and causing sore throat. Took some time to get it right, but now i use minimum 75% VG and all effects are gone. I use some good quality organic VG to dilute and salvage some of my mistake higher PG buys.
 

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Some helpful info on this thread, especially about being nic drunk. I discovered a pg sensitivity that was dehydrating me, destroying my nasal passages and causing sore throat. Took some time to get it right, but now i use minimum 75% VG and all effects are gone. I use some good quality organic VG to dilute and salvage some of my mistake higher PG buys.

Quick questions: are you sensitive to throat hit? I'm just wondering if sensitivity to TH could be an indicator for sensitivity to PG.
 

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That's exactly why we need to know what's in our juice. If my ejuice has a Peanut based oil/flavoring, and I'm allergic to peanuts....

There's several studies goin on about the effects of vaping on diabetics, copd, and asthma afflictions. Today is Safety Sunday on my fb page, perhaps I'll find some articles to utilize.

Yes, I agree; my son goes anaphylactic with *any* exposure to coconut. I don't vape a lot of flavors, and even if he was at home and vaping right along with me, he wouldn't *choose* coconut, that's for sure... but what if *I* was vaping something with coconut, and he just breathed it? The *slightest* exposure to coconut shuts his airway down completely. When he's at home, I can't even use coconut bath products or lotions.

From what I read, if the body sees VG as a sugar, that seems mighty problematic for diabetics. Most of the breathing issues I have are probably attributable to the fact that I have asthma, and smoked for 39 yrs -- 29 yrs POST asthma diagnosis. But how can I really know for sure? I do know that when MyFreedomSmokes ran out of the PG-blend Virginia and I had to vape their VG blend to keep the same flavor, I sounded (and felt) like a cat with a hairball, it just would NOT cough up.

I know that COPD and asthma are actually very different diseases, though they share many of the same symptoms; asthma is actually a spasm of the bronchioles; they just close for no reason that science can apparently figure out. COPD I think is either destruction of the alveoli or hardening of them, so that they don't actually work to exchange gases. I really have no idea how COPD would respond to vaping; if the person was a smoker, then switching to vaping would definitely be harm reduction, but I'm not sure that long-term vaping would be a good idea for them -- nor maybe for asthmatics either, which is why I reserve my options; right now vaping is saving me from cigarettes, but at some point down the road, I may need to give serious consideration to leaving off the vaping too. :(

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