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Am I doing something wrong? I've never been to the Atheist Vapers section -

Decided to go check it out and I don't see any posts there past 2013 - Am I missing something? Am I in the wrong place?

Atheist Vapers

They sensed you coming and hid under the couch?

I'd ask you if there's one for apathetic agnostics, but nobody would ever bother posting.
 

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They sensed you coming and hid under the couch?

I'd ask you if there's one for apathetic agnostics, but nobody would ever bother posting.

I never really understood what the difference between an athiest and an agnostic was...I mean I know atheists are supposed to say there is no god and agnostics say I dont know, but I dont think most atheists say they know theres no god, just that they havent been presented with any evidence of any god and we dont believe in that. To me its the same thing. You cant even say conclusively transformers or smurfs dont exist unless youre omniscient.
 

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    Am I doing something wrong? I've never been to the Atheist Vapers section -

    Decided to go check it out and I don't see any posts there past 2013 - Am I missing something? Am I in the wrong place?

    Atheist Vapers

    He may be talking about another forum, Bones. Yea, the atheist forum was archived because no one was using it or willing to moderate it.
     

    mightymen

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    Kind of a Schrodinger's post - :lol:

    ETA: - But seriously - Where is the active Atheist section that MM was in yesterday?

    I didn't say it was active which surprised me because I think there's a large Atheist population on the board, I read through a few thread and watch a video and seen a bunch of foolish people challenging your belief, it was how they did this that was wrong telling Atheist there need God and God created this and that, it not the place to proclaim our belief on another social part of the forum that states in their title what their are.

    I wouldn't mind stopping bye there, if it was more active but if I couldn't say something nice I'll have to duck tape my mouth shut and just read.
     

    Katmar

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    Yesterday I went to the Atheism Vapers Social Group Forum and seen it was being invaded by those with a different view point, I also didn't think it was right. I even gave someone a like on a one thread.
    While one thing led to another and you guy's started to post here on another thread than that thread was closed and you all came over here and started to post on this thread that I started. I thought fair is fair being what I saw on the Atheism Vapers Social Group Forum and you all were here doing it anyway why not give an invitation knowing you were all doing it any way.

    Through all this I see that all your self proclaimed intelligence and self righteousness that all of you are no different than those people with their self righteousness and indignation who went to Atheism Vapers Social Group Forum and did the exact same things you're all are doing. :facepalm: Oy vey

    Where is this forum, Mighty? We can't find it. The one here is archived, so you couldn't have interacted with anyone. Well, you could have thought you did.

    Never mind, answered.....sort of....
     
    I never really understood what the difference between an athiest and an agnostic was...I mean I know atheists are supposed to say there is no god and agnostics say I dont know, but I dont think most atheists say they know theres no god, just that they havent been presented with any evidence of any god and we dont believe in that. To me its the same thing. You cant even say conclusively transformers or smurfs dont exist unless youre omniscient.

    For the most part, an atheist will definitively state that a Power does not exist until proven. You'll get a whole variety of them across the spectrum from really-fairly-agnostic (as you described) to the definitive "no."

    Agnostics have been called mushy by atheists, but it's a refusal of the "no" position that's in question. There's quite enough room, for instance, for a purely Deist God in the agnostic's viewpoint. We prefer to state, "We don't know, and we're comfortable with that." There's a similar spectrum here from "probably exists, but I'm not sure" to "probably doesn't exist, so functionally an atheist."

    Christians and the other Abrahamaic religions are gnostic in nature. They claim to know--but are chary with the proof on the matter. Some state that proof is impossible, which any good agnostic or atheist will tell you is hogwash at worst and sidestepping at best.

    I'm agnostic on this point as I'm agnostic on whether there's a comprehensive cure for cancer or whether type M stars go through a blue dwarf stage at the end of their lives. I simply don't know, and neither does anybody else yet. I'm less agnostic on the latter than the former; modeling does indicate that a blue dwarf will happen and I'm familiar with that. I'm more agnostic on the former as I don't known enough to render an opinion on the matter.

    I'm not agnostic on things like homeopathy; experimentation shows it does not work, so I'm a-homeopathic.

    You'll find that most agnostics tend to extend this to a fair number of things, but as always, there are plenty of exceptions and "most" in this case is only a plurality, not even a bare majority.
     

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    He may be talking about another forum, Bones. Yea, the atheist forum was archived because no one was using it or willing to moderate it.

    Perhaps he is - But he said "Atheism Vapers Social Group Forum" -
    Which is the proper listing structure for this forum - Guess he was just browsing the archives -
     

    Bones

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    Where is this forum, Mighty? We can't find it. The one here is archived, so you couldn't have interacted with anyone. Well, you could have thought you did.

    Never mind, answered.....sort of....

    He could still LIKE and stuff -

    ETA - Missed this - yea - There ya go -

    I didn't say it was active which surprised me because I think there's a large Atheist population on the board, I read through a few thread and watch a video and seen a bunch of foolish people challenging your belief, it was how they did this that was wrong telling Atheist there need God and God created this and that, it not the place to proclaim our belief on another social part of the forum that states in their title what their are.

    I wouldn't mind stopping bye there, if it was more active but if I couldn't say something nice I'll have to duck tape my mouth shut and just read.

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    people challenging your belief

    Atheism is not a BELIEF - It's a lack of belief - And - I'm not an Atheist -
    I just don't believe in Yahweh/Allah -
     
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    I didn't say it was active which surprised me because I think there's a large Atheist population on the board

    Atheists, and agnostics by extension, generally don't feel much need to feed their own belief systems with other people's opinions. The groups, as a whole, tend to be free-thinkers.

    You won't find an atheist congregation because the two words are at odds with each other. For this reason, a Flying Spaghetti Monster (have YOU been touched by His noodly appendage?) congregation tends to be rather fractious and more interested in the beer.
     

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    He may be talking about another forum, Bones. Yea, the atheist forum was archived because no one was using it or willing to moderate it.

    I read the posts and watched a video that Infernal2 posted on a thread he started.

    The last post was made on 8-9-13

    No mod might be an opportunity for one of you to get involved with your movement a little more, I don't know is that the right word I'm using (movement)
     

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    I read the posts and watched a video that Infernal2 posted on a thread he started.

    The last post was made on 8-9-13

    No mod might be an opportunity for one of you to get involved with your movement a little more, I don't know is that the right word I'm using (movement)

    OK - I gotta run - Thanks for the invite - It seems we have worn out our welcome -

    I just wanna point out something that I noticed - All the "Christians" seem to have totally abandoned you -
    I find that very sad - I suspect you thought they would have your back here - I thought so too -

    I really feel for ya on that - :(

    They left you high and dry - Not very "Christian" of them if you ask me -

    Always makes me wonder - It the FAITH is so strong and TRUE - Why can't it stand a challenge?

    Just something to think about -
     
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    mightymen

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    OK - I gotta run - Thanks for the invite - It seems we have worn out our welcome -

    My pleasure
    I just wanna point out something that I noticed - All the "Christians" seem to have totally abandoned you -
    I find that very sad - I suspect you thought they would have your back here - I thought so too -

    I really feel for ya on that - :(

    They left you high and dry - Not very "Christian" of them if you ask me -

    Always makes me wonder - It the FAITH is so strong and TRUE - Why can't it stand a challenge?

    Just something to think about -

    Not as many here as you think, if there was more it would have been OMG.
     

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    IMO there are no bad questions. I have not gone back to see how the thread went down hill and got closed but I will. Without questioning things and having an open mind we would still live in caves.

    Yesterday, I posted a question on how do non-Christians cope with adversity. I, in all honesty, didn't realize that there is a new posts lists on the front page of this site. I do now. It's a small print and I just never noticed it. I don't get online much as it takes more stamina than I have because of fibro. I do what I do because I have felt led to do so. I opened pandora's box, and the more I ponder on it, I'm not so sure it was an accident. I expected the Christian community to answer and maybe a few folks from the secular world who are searching for answers, but not what I was received. Why? Because I live in 'The Bible Belt,' and I have to say that I am unaccustomed to being received as I was yesterday. I gleened a great deal pertaining to the outcome. First of all, I am so thankful I live in The Bible Belt. Second, I got a glimmer of what Jesus went through.

    Matthew 10:22 - And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

    Now I'm not going to say I was hated, but was not well received when I asked for respect for Almighty God. I can't help but wonder how folks would have posted had I been anything other than Christian. I was the topic of the day on this website in certain areas, because I checked. I did not intrude or defend myself. I left it alone. Nothing would have been gained by it. I did leave the thread up. I could have deleted the entire thing, but chose not to because I didn't want them to think I was running from it. It is a good reminder of what is coming down the road. I am not embarrassed by what I posted. Granted, I was rather knocked off my feet for awhile, but the Lord stood me back up again. They are now held accountable because I posted truth. I prayed for them this morning.

    I just wanted everyone to know what happened and why there is a closed thread. Today is a new day! Outlook is sunny! :)
     
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