Have not purchased yet .. Will this set-up last me all day >

[Rossum]

If that really is the case then you're going to need 36mg nicotine solution.

Nothing wrong with having some 36mg around for those moments when a bad craving hits, but IMO, it would be excessive to vape that all day. If the OP does buy 36, I'd suggest also buying something to cut it with just in case it turns out to be too much. 18 mg (with a rare forray to 24) worked fine for me and I was also at 2 PAD. Remember that someone who was smoking that much isn't likely to just take an occasional hit to fix his cravings, he's likely to be chain-vaping.

2x Vision Spinner 1300mah batteries

Good choice.

2 x Protank II

Only if he puts 'em on Aerotank bases and learns how bottom-coil vacuum tanks work, otherwise he risks much frustration. IMO, someone just starting out would be better off with some kind of top-coil clearo; there's no mystery to how they work.

1 x 5 pack spare coils for Protank

Depending on the juice, 2 packs might be better. The longest I've ever gotten out of any Protank coil is 5 days. Yes, my juices tend to gunk them up fast.

1 x usb charger for ego type batteries

TWO chargers. One as a backup. They're cheap (less than a pack of traditional cigs).

1 x wall plug for usb charger.

Only needed if he doesn't have USB hubs and power adapters scattered around everywhere already.

 

[DaveP]

24mg is a good place to start for a 2 PAD smoker. It served me well. The first week I dropped with no trouble to about 6 a day. I did that for quite a while and when I quit there were no withdrawal symptoms. I just didn't care for a cigarette anymore.

900mah batteries will get you through most of the day. The standard estimate is about 100mah per hour of battery capacity. You will probably find yourself changing batteries after supper. That's about average. I go through 2 18650 2000mah batteries a day, but the second one lasts me until way into the next morning and I've been charging four of them for almost 2 years. They are beginning to lose charge a little faster.

In any event, the Spinner is a good vape and a good backup for when you decide to upgrade your hardware. We all need a backup to our main vape.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

With 36mg i expect you'll be vaping not much more than 4 mil a day

LOLLLL I was vaping like a Madman- 36 mg X 8 ml per day. Luckily after the first month I started to DIY. My analogs were so strong people would go without rather than smoke mine. Always got a when a stranger would ask for one...light 'er up, drag, cough, cough, cough and then look at me with a WTH are these?
The bottom line....I knew it was a crazy high Nic level but I was so pitifully desperate for this to work.

 

[vampyre74]

Good luck on your journey!

 

[evan le'garde]

At 36mg it's guaranteed to stop a person smoking. It may take a couple of weeks but if you're getting the nicotine then there really is no need to smoke at all, and you won't want to. There's never a shortfall with 36mg.

 

[Rossum]

At 36mg it's guaranteed to stop a person smoking. It may take a couple of weeks but if you're getting the nicotine then there really is no need to smoke at all, and you won't want to. There's never a shortfall with 36mg.

I disagree. If just having enough nic works, why is the success rate with patches, gum, and other conventional nic replacement therapies not higher?

IMO, part of what makes vaping such a successful means of quitting is the physical act of vaping. Going too high on the nic may cause someone to not want to vape very much at all, in which case they'll still suffer from deprivation of physical part of the habit.

 

[DaveP]

I disagree. If just having enough nic works, why is the success rate with patches, gum, and other conventional nic replacement therapies not higher?

IMO, part of what makes vaping such a successful means of quitting is the physical act of vaping. Going too high on the nic may cause someone to not want to vape very much at all, in which case they'll still suffer from deprivation of physical part of the habit.

I agree that the actions of smoking associated with vaping are key, but 24mg is probably the best place to start. Nic gum and inhalers have a 7% quit rate the last time I checked. Vaping is better than 80%.

 

[evan le'garde]

I disagree. If just having enough nic works, why is the success rate with patches, gum, and other conventional nic replacement therapies not higher?

IMO, part of what makes vaping such a successful means of quitting is the physical act of vaping. Going too high on the nic may cause someone to not want to vape very much at all, in which case they'll still suffer from deprivation of physical part of the habit.

The way i was looking at it was that he wants to stop smoking, So if, using a lower nicotine level, he were to continue to smoke then he would probably be vaping excessively and not really getting enough. With 36mg, kind of like you said, you can take it or leave it, a casual approach if you like.

How about this then. Hit 36mg first thing and maybe use less mg thoughout the day.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I disagree. If just having enough nic works, why is the success rate with patches, gum, and other conventional nic replacement therapies not higher?

IMO, part of what makes vaping such a successful means of quitting is the physical act of vaping. Going too high on the nic may cause someone to not want to vape very much at all, in which case they'll still suffer from deprivation of physical part of the habit.

With our vape prog we asked for feedback in regards to what appealed to new vapers in the beginning. Overwhelmingly it was TH and Lung Hit...something that other smoking cessation progs were lacking in. Next on the list was that they could self medicate when needed. Third was the actual physical hand to mouth action.

 

[evan le'garde]

With our vape prog we asked for feedback in regards to what appealed to new vapers in the beginning. Overwhelmingly it was TH and Lung Hit...something that other smoking cessation progs were lacking in. Next on the list was that they could self medicate when needed. Third was the actual physical hand to mouth action.

I understand. But think about what he said in a previous post, the original post in fact. Don't forget that the physical hand to mouth action could also be achieved by smoking tobacco. And he doesn't want to do that !.

 

[evan le'garde]

You know for a while now i've been thinking that e liquid should be referred to as "nicotine solution". It's how i refer to it, because it is a solution !. Sublime really isn't it !.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I understand. But think about what he said in a previous post. Don't forget that the physical hand to mouth action could also be achieved by smoking tobacco. And he doesn't want to do that !.

Yes I remember he had said he would smoke and vape at the same time. I don't think he believes in the power of vaping and that's very understandable given the lack of success of traditional smoking cessation progs. I laugh when members cringe when 36 mg juice is mentioned. There are quite a few of us that began at that level. For me starting at 36 mg meant I never smoked another analog again except for 2 puffs a couple hours after I began- tasted HORRIBLE and that was truly the last one.
I only suggested 24 mg cuz I hate it when someone gets "Nic Head". Maybe it's a good idea to try both 24 and 36 mg.

 

[King_benny]

I am 23 days in and I have bought almost two of everything to be safe. One day last week everything craped on me and I almost went and bought a pack. But I always have chargers on me as well, so I was able to hold strong for a short time....buy multiple tanks and mullioned wicks and multiple chargers ECt.ect... Better safe than smoking!!!

 

[Rossum]

I laugh when members cringe when 36 mg juice is mentioned.

I'm not exactly cringing, I'm just worried that it might cause someone might not vape enough to satisfy other parts of the habit. I'm vaping 15-18 mg in tanks, but on those rare occasions when I still get a craving (typically right after lunch) I'l add a couple of drops of 36 mg unflavored WTA base to my dripper and it fixes that craving without me having to chain-vape myself silly.

I only suggested 24 mg cuz I hate it when someone gets "Nic Head". Maybe it's a good idea to try both 24 and 36 mg.

How about some 36 and some 12 in the same flavor? Mixed 50-50, they'd make 24, but it obviously provides the flexibility to go anywhere in between.

FWIW, 24 is the most I've seen in any B&M. My 36mg base comes from WholeCig

 

[amazingchowdury]

I think that would be a good setup, I am also getting the same parts, atm I use a ego kit. Only $9 comes with juice!

 

[evan le'garde]

I'm not exactly cringing, I'm just worried that it might cause someone might not vape enough to satisfy other parts of the habit. I'm vaping 15-18 mg in tanks, but on those rare occasions when I still get a craving (typically right after lunch) I'l add a couple of drops of 36 mg unflavored WTA base to my dripper and it fixes that craving without me having to chain-vape myself silly.


How about some 36 and some 12 in the same flavor? Mixed 50-50, they'd make 24, but it obviously provides the flexibility to go anywhere in between.

FWIW, 24 is the most I've seen in any B&M. My 36mg base comes from WholeCig

I get all my nicotine solutions from http://www.paradisevapeuk.co.uk/Default.asp

 

[omyeyes]

So glad you're here!! I smoked for 46 years and this was the best decision I EVER made!!!! Good luck to you!!!!!!

Wow, I think you have all the info you need here. I can only add this:
1) If vaping too high of a nic level all day long, it is possible to get insomnia. I know I did. Used to be able to have a smoke before bed and go right to sleep but once I started vaping, I had to back off the higher nic level after dinner. Kinda made me jittery in the evenings.
2) ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS have back ups for your back ups and then maybe some more back ups. Whether it's juice, coils, tanks, batteries, atomizers, or whatever. Things will break/wear out and you NEVER want to be caught short!

 

[Grimwald]

I was a heavy 3 pad smoker. I use T2s but a 1.8 ohm coil...so using a little more battery life.

A 900 mAh battery would last me 7-8 hours if it was a relatively new battery. So, you will need another battery to use for the 2 hour or so recharging time. (you should always have a backup anyway)

A T2 will last me 5-6 hours or so...I use about 7-8 mil per day or 1/2 mil per hour. BUT, after 18 months I'm down to 7.5mg,

I like the T2 and it is easy to refill, but you will need more battery, or a passthru...don't believe the 900 mAh will get you anywhere near a full day.

 

[Completely Average]

Yes I remember he had said he would smoke and vape at the same time. I don't think he believes in the power of vaping and that's very understandable given the lack of success of traditional smoking cessation progs. I laugh when members cringe when 36 mg juice is mentioned. There are quite a few of us that began at that level. For me starting at 36 mg meant I never smoked another analog again except for 2 puffs a couple hours after I began- tasted HORRIBLE and that was truly the last one.
I only suggested 24 mg cuz I hate it when someone gets "Nic Head". Maybe it's a good idea to try both 24 and 36 mg.

I totally agree with your suggestion. I think it's irresponsible to suggest a 36mg nicotine level as a starting point. Nicotine is a toxin and too much will make you sick. It's always better to start with the 24 and go higher if you find you need more than to start with a 36mg liquid and have to throw it all out after you've spent half the day feeling sick as hell.

 

[klynnn]

I am retired also and was a 2+pad marlboro smoker and I vape all day. 18 mg was plenty for me and actually had to lower to 15mg after a couple weeks. Go with 2- 1300mah vision spinners for starters as they last all day. Once you get used to those and decide if you will stick with it then look at mods with rechargeable batteries.