heath organizations assumption in e-cigarettes busted following their own logic

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Hunny Bunny my most excellent wife reminded me in the midst of a few happenings that i have a love for science got me to thinking on this...So i give her the credit for me getting off my duff to think on this. Please bare in mind i am a 'garage' scientist as i have no formal degree, and my thoughts be it expressed or implied are entirely my own

Something seems to be on the fore front of every vapers mind, and it does not matter if you are in USA, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Britain, Germany, etc.

It would appear the health sections of governments are saying that nicotine and e-cigarettes are (or should be) illegal. Well after seeing the wave of people banding together to fight this and other statements in what has now come to been seen by me as a very simple dialogue between governments and vapors: 'your a dumb dumb poppy head! I am talking my ball and going to tell someone' 'no you are the poppy head, and you can no play in my sand box any more'. Laugh if you want to, but this is exactly what it comes down to.

So what is the real purpose for this thread? Even this post?

Well instead of joining the angry mob with provari's and torches in hand, i thought i would step back and try to figure out what Data was used, and then use that to point out the scientists mistakes (if that made sense, this may not).

First off i want to say that i have found where the so called facts lay:

Nicotine has been reported to be fatal in the following amounts:
Adults: 30 to 60mg
Children: 10mg
Dog: 9.2mg
Mouse: 3.3MG
Rat: 50mg


This sounded odd and yet interesting. Following this logic to it's conclusion i came up with what the so called health organizations of the world are calling fact.

If i use the above stat as my base, then expand on it i come up with the theory that if i ordered 18mg of nic, then for every micro liter (ul) i am using 0.018mg nicotine, 0r 18mg per milliliter (ml).

Confused yet? no? lets go on

So this would mean that for every:
10ml's i am vaping 180mg nicotine
20mls i am vaping 360mg nicotine
30mls i am vaping 540mg nicotine
50mls i am vaping 900mg nicotine

If you use a 10ml bottle everyday for a month that is 2700mg of nicotine in your body, and seeing as it needs about 72hrs to leave your body and bring back down to a safe level without the introductions of more.......and yet you have vet's that have been doing this for what? the last six? seven years? Right off the hop the data is flawed simple as they (scientists) wanted to follow a clear cut logical path and not have to do the proper calculations. In actuality it is my thoughts that for every ml, based on 18mg nicotine you are taking in 1.8mg of actual nicotine which is by far much safer.

Another and last thing to touch base on (all of a sudden i head people cheering and no clue why) Is with all this belly aching from the government how come they have not created a molecule break down of e-juice? I have....ok, i have done poorly is more like it, and will include it for those that are curious. Please bare in mind i cannot do graphic design if my life depended on it, and if you are by chance better, and know how to render this stuff, can you please post a better picture?

Either way instead of getting angry at what the governments are saying, like i said i thought i would turn the tables and show just how wrong they have been right from the get go.

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. In actuality it is my thoughts that for every ml, based on 18mg nicotine you are taking in 1.8mg of actual nicotine which is by far much safer.

how did you come to the conclusion that it is 1,8mg instead of 18mg? except for the fact that people who vape 18mg/10ml/day are obviously not getting the full 180mg nic.

What is that "molecule breakdown" supposed to tell us?
 

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. In actuality it is my thoughts that for every ml, based on 18mg nicotine you are taking in 1.8mg of actual nicotine which is by far much safer.

how did you come to the conclusion that it is 1,8mg instead of 18mg? except for the fact that people who vape 18mg/10ml/day are obviously not getting the full 180mg nic.

What is that "molecule breakdown" supposed to tell us?

The 1.8mg formula was found thusly: After i figured out that it was 0.018ug i worked up to 1 mg of nic. If it was to be 18mg per 1ml, then in a standard 10ml bottle you have 180mg nic.

The rather crude molecule chart would be the chemical make up of e-juice
 

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oh and btw. nicotine doesn't need 72h to leave your body. it's actually something around 30min. Otherwise, people who vaped too much would have their overdose symptoms like headaches for 3 days and on ;)

Ha Ha! someone caught that lol....i figured i would toss in some over inflated speculation just as the health organizations due. Again i was following their logic in all this to debunk them ;)
 
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