Hello all, enthusiastic (possibly overenthusiastic) noob here with questions.

[fabricator4]

Thanx so much all for the welcome & input!!

My current evod batteries are just the standard fixed voltage batteries. Today I ordered 3 Vision spinner VV 1300mah batteries, 2 mini pro tank 2's & coils in 1.5, 1.8, & 2.2 ohm. I should once I get all of this stuff in have all i need to figure out how to get a warmer hit if it is equipment related....or even possible with a bottom coil unit.

The bottom coil devices are a really a cool vape. The other device you bought sounds like cigalike style with a cartomiser. The cartomiser is a metal tube with a wick and coil, and some polyfill around it to hold about 1ml of e-liquid. There are also XL carts that hold up to 2ml. ETA: I was wrong, once you explained again, it seems that it's a top coil clearomiser. I'll leave the following, as the cartomisers might be of great interest to you.

You can get cartimisers with 510 threads that will fit on your ego battery including the VV ones you have on order. You can also get cartomiser tanks, which you insert a cartomiser with a punched hole in it. The tank acts as a reservoir for the e-liquid which wicks into the cartomiser throught the punched hole.

eg
Boge Stainless 510 Cartomizers 2.0ohm

and a tank to put it in:
Smoktech UDCT V1 - Clear Tank - Fantazia Vapes

These for illustration purposes only. You'll need to find a supplier with stock in your country.


Here's a good video tutorial from one of the greatest, Phil Busardo:




Since you're an EE I'll go into a bit more technical detail which I think you will find useful. (We just had conversation this morning on another thread about new users not being ready for the technical details... too funny)

As you can image it's the power going through the coil that generates the heat, which in turn vapourises the juice. The bottom coil Evod you have has a recommendation from Kanger to run it at about 6 watts. The Evod battery is probably a fixed output of 3.7 volts, so on a 2.5 ohm coil, you are actually running that at 5.5 watts. That's probably considered a "safe" power to give people. Personally I would aim more for a 2.2 ohm coil on that and most other bottom coil devices on that battery.

The cartomisers on the other hand can handle a *little* more heat. Some people say 8 watts, which is real handy: Volts = ohms + 2 gives 8 watts.

Note that it's the device design that governs what power you need to run it at. This is adjusted with the variable voltage depending on the coil resistance, or must be done by selecting the correct coil resistance in the cases where you have a fixed voltage battery.

I suspect you'll just grab this and run with it, but do ask questions if I've been a little too brief. I've honestly never written for someone who has more knowledge than myself. I do know that when I started I didn't put all the pieces together for a while, but I think you've already figured out the relationship between coil resistance and how is going affect the vape.

O don't really understand all of the lingo yet as far as throat hit...etc....I just know that I like the warm smooth hit without the harsness and dry feeling in the front of my throat that makes me want to cough. I seem to get close to that with this Jomotech thingy....not sure where the coil is or how it works. It has a clear tank with a metal tibe like thing through it with some wicks on it. Looks like it could be a real PIA... it certainly wasn't as easy to fill as the evods & I have no idea what would fit it as the threads are different. I just know I like the warm hit and the slim size.

Oh, that's a top coil clearomiser. Similar devices might be the CE5 and the Vivi Nova. Yes they can be pain, you have to keep tipping and twirling them to make sure the wicks stay wet. I made the change to bottom coil devices because the vapour production is so good, but it sounds like you might like the warmer vape from a cartomiser as I suggested.

I think we all just try different things until we find out what works best for us.

 

[dice57]

With a Kanger coil head it is crucial that you allow enough time for the wick to be saturated with juice. When I used a Kanger protank, I always waited 15 minutes for the wick to become saturated. When I did this I could use the same coil for weeks at a time without changing or cleaning the wicks. Rinsing out the tank every other fill helps too. As stated, use the 1.8 ohm coil heads and you'll be able to have a warmer vape. Also, do not over tighten the tank onto your battery, this can bend the coil wire and shut off the air flow.

I personally don't like doing the pre-draw method for saturating the wick, if you draw to hard you risk flooding the stem, once flooded it's hard to recover that head. Found having patience and allowing the juice to saturate worked best for me for long trouble free coil life.

Hang in there, you are on the cusps of being smoke free for life. Getting that wanting feeling to go away is very possible. I started with cigalikes, stopped smoking, but felt my self missing something and wanting more, upgraded to and ego style battery and a protank, ahh better, but still something missing and wanting more. Upgraded to a Provari and ahh, much better, but still had the wanting feeling, finally figured out that the atomizer is the weak link to finding the ultimate vape, bought the Russian rba and started to build my own coils, now we are talking serious vape, with each new build it just gets better and better, no more wanting, but found what I was missing all along. I enjoyed smoking for 27 years, 1 1/2 pack a day, and now with my gear, I've found something much, much better, and love it way more than smoking ever could. I even started DIY juices, and have fell in love all over again. Now there is no more dissatisfaction with vendors with inconsistent flavors. I mix up a small sample 10ml batch, if I like it, great, write down the recipe and make 50ml, taste like crap? no problem, don't make any more, only out 70 cents or so. Close but not quite, tweak it till it's right. I have 15 different flavor extracts and have come up with 3 great flavors that I will always make, 2 flavors that while good, have room for improvement, so will tweak them a bit on the next sample batch. Haven't made one yet that was unacceptable and I've only started DIY a week ago.

I had to go through the steps to get where I am today. Things that "I have no interest doing that" "don't want to fiddle with that" I now do with enthusiasm and joy. There is just something about building your own coil and wick, filling your tank with juice I created, and vapping huge juicy satisfying thick clouds of vape. I've turned a harmful bad addiction into a hobby that's healthy and fun, and get more fullfiment out of than smoking ever could hope to supply.

Welcome to the forum. Give yourself time and practice, and smoking will be just a bad memory.

Vape long and Prosper!!

 

[Wigged Out Mom]

Right on! Thanx!! I will definitely be checking it all out to see that everything is running where it should!

 

[Scarey]

A note, Your evod is a plastic tank. With the number of liquids you got to sample, there's a good probability that some are "tank crackers." The more caustic flavors, like citrus, or strong cinnamon can destroy plastic tanks. I would suggest doing a little research around the forum on tank cracking liquids. As that is the case, I would suggest ordering a Protank II/Protank mini II. The protanks use the same coil heads as your evods, but have a glass tank. You can use them on any tank crackers you might pick up.

Vaping Craze has a fantastic deal on the Mini's this month, as well as a great regular price on the full size. Deal of the Day

 

[madqatter]

Vaping Craze has a fantastic deal on the Mini's this month, as well as a great regular price on the full size. Deal of the Day

NB: The Mini Protank IIv1 has a fixed (not removable) drip tip. The v2 has a removable drip tip. This is the v1. Nothing wrong with it, just know what you're getting.

 

[Scarey]

NB: The Mini Protank IIv1 has a fixed (not removable) drip tip. The v2 has a removable drip tip. This is the v1. Nothing wrong with it, just know what you're getting.

Haha, yeah, I figure they're trying to cut down on their supply of V1's before they order V2's, and that's why they put it on special. Still, at that price, it's a dang good deal. Especially if you want to try one out.

 

[ShariR]

Welcome to ECF. I expect to see you in the rebuilding and modding forums in no time. With your EE background and the fact that you have a good idea what you want in your vaping experience I see you running circles in ECF and finding the info to get you where you want to be. You are starting your journey with a more advanced understanding of the mechanics of vaping than most people do. When I started 3 months ago I struggled with things like resistance and ohms law and principles of vaping. You are going to fly.

Enjoy yourself here and explore the different forums. Watch Youtube videos. They will give you an idea of what you can achieve with different types of equipment. There are modders forums on here where people build their own devices. Have fun.

 

[budda1114]

Thanks for all the valuable information in this thread. I didn't know to let my protank wick sit for 15 minutes to saturate.

 

[madqatter]

Thanks for all the valuable information in this thread. I didn't know to let my protank wick sit for 15 minutes to saturate.

I don't generally wait that long, myself, but I start with wicks that are good and dry, prime the wicks with drops of juice before filling the tank, and let gravity do its thing for at least a couple of minutes.

 

[fabricator4]

I don't generally wait that long, myself, but I start with wicks that are good and dry, prime the wicks with drops of juice before filling the tank, and let gravity do its thing for at least a couple of minutes.

I don't wait that long either, and I fill on a completely dry wick. I look for air bubbles coming up from the wicks indicating juice is flowing out and air is coming back in to replace it. I then take a very light dry pull and if I can taste the juice I know the wick is saturated enough. I then power it up at lower volts and take a few puffs, checking for flavour and a little vapour, then gradually turn it up until it's performing to expectations. Of course it does help that I now have senses of taste and smell that are working better than they have for 35 years. Gotta love it.

 

[nmackan]

well welcome on board and decision of quitting smoking. You are only a mouse tick away from the e-cigarette world and you can get every answer within minutes. Dont worry about electrics electronics your devices and yet developments will teach you everything. If you can be lucky enough to find right liquid at once and go ahead vaping, you will not compare them what is more you will not be able to make a comparement because your dear cigarette will become detesting.
More important of all the PG/VG rates for your body and nicotine level you use. once settled you will be happy with results.
(I am afraid there will be more vapour more tastes more good devices always)
Happy vapings to you

 

[Jumpin' In...]

I don't generally wait that long, myself, but I start with wicks that are good and dry, prime the wicks with drops of juice before filling the tank, and let gravity do its thing for at least a couple of minutes.

Good a process as any. If I remember, I prime my wicks with juice right after I clean my coils - before I put the top post back - but I forget half the time. In either event, after I fill the tank with juice, I hold it by the mouthpiece and sort of tap it gently with the fingernail of my middle finger - like you would flick a fly - a few times, tilt the clearo back and forth few times then set it down and wait about 5 minutes.

BTW, I like the Mini Protank II, v.1. Took it apart and soaked everything except the head in vinegar for 10 minutes before I used it and there was no metallic taste. I don't mind the metal tip, and there's one less thing to fall off, lose or leak. Works like a charm with a 1.8 ohm head. It's only about 1/2" longer than an eVod clearo.

Wigged Out Mom: you might read the the following re what not to do with eVod clearos:

Kanger eVod Clearomizer | fully rebuildable bottom coil $5.99

 

[OlDogNewTricks]

I would add that there is nothing wrong by doing both as you transition. Just make sure that you drink a lot of water as vaping drys you out. Also, if you get headaches, you might be taking in too much nicotine if you do both. Many ween themselves off cigarettes over time using vaping. Just my two cents. Good luck, welcome and have fun! Vaping can be as much a hobby as it is a way to quit smoking. So much interesting gear, so many interesting ways to vape and the choices in flavors... wow.

 

[Greaser55]

The biggest complaint I have found with people who are on the fence, who still smoke cigs but own a blu, is this: they say that its hard to switch over, and that they can't put the e-cig down. I try to tell them that its one solution to both of their problems. They are addicted to so many other things than nicotine, and they just need a better device than a blu. Some of them listen, some of them don't, you just have to find the device and flavors that do it for you and you will never go back to analogs, and once you start to feel the effects of not in inhaling smoke with arsenic and carbon monoxide 20 times a day, it just seems pointless to go back

 

[RubyRoo]

Wigged Out, I am just so glad for your enthusiasm, research, and knowledge. Soon, you'll be building better coils than all of us combined! You can quit, and it will be great. Thanks for your encouragement. My husband is an ME and he is so funny about all of this rebuildable stuff yet appreciates that, as a Liberal Arts chic, am researching Ohm's law and electrical current theory. Glad that you are getting good gear and really diving in. Bon Chance!

 

[Wigged Out Mom]

Thank you all so much for the warm welcomes, encouragement and advice!! I have learned from 23 years experience in my field that the best people to learn from (both what to do & what not to do) are the ones that have been doing it the longest. I call this "tribal knowledge"...the knowledge that is only gained from experience and time which is passed on the the next generation, or the next round of newbs in this case.

I have been vaping for a full 72 hours now and absolutely love it!!!! I have been very busy in this time figuring it all out. I have completely immersed myself to figure out what I like the best and what will really work the best for me. In this time I have already gained a lot of knowledge & experience....both good and bad!!

A short list of my adventures into vaping thusfar:
I have wandered into a seedy local dive market to get the only juice available in my area while waiting for my shipment...and I must say I felt like I must me doing something illegal just going into that place

I have made myself dizzy and learned in the process that 24mg of nic is obviously a bit much for me since I have been vaping my face off
non-stop since I first pick the thing up

I have learned that waking up in the morning without the smell a stinky ash tray beside your head on the night slapping you in the face time is a good thing....and since gathered up all of the ash trays distributed around the house, washed them, & put them away

I have had problems with burnt taste, floodig,gunked up coil, etc....found the culprit, fixed the problems and kept on happily vaping. All thanx to all of the great info found here from all of you wonderful people

Tried approximately 18 different juices...most of I liked, some were just ok, 2 I absolutely LOVE, a few I could definitely live without, a few I never want to try again, but feel I must as I think I could make it better if I mixed some other flavors into it, learned that some flavors that I really like in food or drink form should remain in food or drink form to best be enjoyed as they do no traslate well to vape juice, a couple that I am hesitant to even try because the smell is...well just EWWW, and a couple that smelled amazing that I just knew I would love that taste but tasted like....well I can only describe as tasting the way...musty, plasticy, racid old dirty socks soaked in sewer water smells.

I have aired out, shook, burped, steeped (hot water bath), and repeated several times with pre-made 28 juices, mixed a few to make a few amazing concoctions, and some that should never under any circumstances be repeated

I have examined, disassembled, cleaned, reassembled, removed flavor wicks for comparison, and modified a coil that came with my starter kit to achieve a lower resistance. I guess I was too enthusiastic (or impatient) to wait for the others that are due to arrive tomorrow

I have also come to the realization that equipment is the most confusing thing EVER! OMG...so many different threads, delivery methods, coils set-ups etc.....I did manage to order some stuff in hope that it works better for my personal preferences. I ordered some VV batteries, different sized coils, and a few mini protank 2's as I am still in search of the warm vape that I get from this little Jomotech Ecap thingy, as I still prefer the way it vapes over the way the Evods's vape. I hope that the different resistances or variable voltage will help me find the warm vape I want from all of this bottom coil equipment. My thinking is that I may only find it with top or dual coil equipment though. I am assuming that that is what this Jomotech Ecap is??? I would love suggestions on some inexpensive and possibly rebuildable clearomizers or whatever to use with the Evod & Vision spinner batteries.

While I like the Evod batteries I still prefer the small compact size of the little Jomotech Ecap thingy. As a former smoker Capri analogs (the little short,skinny, tiny, girly ones ) for 20+ years it is much more comfortable to me, especially if I am going to be out and about and avoid analogs. I would love for someone to tell me where to find replacement top or dual clearomizers (preferably rebuilable) or whatever they are to fit this thing. The threads are not the same as the Evod batteries. It is a much smaller thread. Even recommendations for another battery which is of this slim compact size or adapters or something that would make it work and keep the slim compact size would be great. I am a person who can usually find anything I want with a computer or my smartphone, but for the life of me I can not find the info I need to find replacement clearo/carto/tanko/glasso...whatever mizers for this little gadget that I LOVE. All of this equipment stuff is quite overwhelming!

I am still struggling to learn the equipment and what works with what...etc...and I definitely do not want to get so frustrated I just say to hell with it, or spent a fortune on equipment unnecessarily.

And YES, that is the short list!! I have been quite busy, am thoroughly exhausted both mentally & physically, as I have been up all night several nights glued to the computer digging for all the info I need or playing with equipment and flavors. The good news is that I smell much better (without the stinkies), as does my house, and I am vaping my face off and LOVING it!!!!

 

[alisa1970]

All that in 2 days??? I would say you're well on your way to being a vaping lifer! Welcome, congrats, and vape on!

 

[madqatter]

I just adore your enthusiasm.

 

[Wigged Out Mom]

LOL...RIGHT!! Oh, there is so much more, but I didn't want to turn the post into a novel.

All that in 2 days??? I would say you're well on your way to being a vaping lifer! Welcome, congrats, and vape on!

 

[madqatter]

(I've been watching lots of videos and reading lots of articles on battery safety, myself. I'm awaiting my first mod, a mechanical, and want to be well prepared. Wishing I had your EE background about now! )