ROFL if she were not already vaping and stating 0 nic, I would respond the same now as I did then......
Hello from a non-smoker intrigued by e-cigs
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ROFL if she were not already vaping and stating 0 nic, I would respond the same now as I did then......
Da Brat, I just couldn't agree more with what you said in this post ^
iVaporgirl, I see you have now found a cool 'femme fatale' avatar to suite your new image
It's a razors edge we walk. All we can do is try to guide, but in the end everyone has to make their own choice when it comes to something like this.
First off this is a great and dynamic forum. I love the support and information that is offered here in the community! Fantastic resource.
So let me introduce myself a little here: like the title says I am a "non-smoker". I started seeing many friends and acquaintances smoking these intriguing little devices about 7 or 8 months ago. Recently I have been doing some freelance work for a company that distributes ecigs so I have been learning about the devices directly.
Since I've had many relationships with smokers while not actually smoking myself I really appreciate the "revolutionary" aspect of the ecig.
Besides, it looks so damn cool and I've already enjoyed feeling like a femme fatale using it on occasion
Anyway, I'll be posting q's here and there on the forum and hopefully getting to know some of you better.
In the meantime I'm enjoying reading about your experiences and I'd love to hear about what inspired you to get into this whole "vaping" thing
-A. Cat
I have two reasons for getting into ecigs, the first being the fact that as a typical guy the whole idea that i could have a 'gadget' that allowed me to smoke legally inside was too good not to look into! (c'mon all guys love gadgets really lol)
The second reason was that i had been smoking for 26 years, needed to do something and was being hassled by my girlfriend into joining the NHS quit scheme. Well i went to the introductory meeting and kinda felt patronised and totally out of touch with the 'dynamic' people running it. Basically i don't think they had ever smoked a ... between them and had no handle on how to deal with long term smokers. That as well as seing all the usual NRTs available and i just thought sod that none of them are for me. I remembered a sound engineer friend of mine who was vaping through the soundcheck while i had to go outside during the snow, and thought i gotta try that! So i did and i think its by far the best way to replace cigarettes. Bloody brilliant invention.
Seconded
Although my main reason for my interest in e-cigs (after smoking for nearly 15 years) is my Fiancee. She is a non-smoker and has never liked it and, though she has never stopped me, we are getting married this year. I figure what better to quit (or cut back) than now.
Reckon I've killed enough "swimmers" as it is
haha yep thats true there is the old sperm count to think of.....
My girlfriend smokes too as does my 16 yr old step son so we are trying to quit in order to set a good example to him. My gf has decided to go down the NHS route which is fair enough, its just not for me. I can't think of anything worse than chewing nicotine gum or having walk around with a blooming patch on......i'd still wanna do something with my hands. Which is where the ecig is so brilliant. My stepson has had a go on the ecig and he thinks its great and i know id rather he used one of those than filling his young lungs with 4000 odd chemicals. I apreciate it is a contentious point about young people using these but i think if a teenager is already smoking then i don't feel so bad. I would never encourage a teenager to start using one if they weren't already smoking.
My girlfriend smokes too as does my 16 yr old step son so we are trying to quit in order to set a good example to him. My gf has decided to go down the NHS route which is fair enough, its just not for me. I can't think of anything worse than chewing nicotine gum or having walk around with a blooming patch on......i'd still wanna do something with my hands. Which is where the ecig is so brilliant. My stepson has had a go on the ecig and he thinks its great and i know id rather he used one of those than filling his young lungs with 4000 odd chemicals. I apreciate it is a contentious point about young people using these but i think if a teenager is already smoking then i don't feel so bad. I would never encourage a teenager to start using one if they weren't already smoking.
Just to follow up on my last post....I will be actively encouraging my stepson to give up before i let him use an ecig as i do realise that vaping can be just as addictive as analogue cigs. Just so i don't get a load of you on my case about encouraging a teenager to get addicted to ecigs!
No way would we get on your case for encouraging anyone that already smokes to try e-cigs - far from it
I'm just against encouraging someone that has never smoked & just wants to start using e-cigs because they think they look cool & that they want to look like a 'femme fatale' as the Opening Poster stated.
Yes I can see your point now. And I do agree it is probably much better to refer to it as a "personal vaporizer" instead...I just don't think people will "get it" before they "get" the ecig thing first. This issue does illustrate the challenge in making the mainstream population aware of it with all the careful word usage and cultivating the image of the thing.
Thanks for explaining
I also agree but if you are going to choose one of the two no matter what then the non nicotine VG juice would be the way to go.
I understand just remember e-cigs have not been around long enough to truly know what if any side effects are. Just that e-cigs seem to be the lesser of 2 evils.
I have realized while reading both the concerned posts, and the sort of finger wagging posts I've inspired with my OP that there are elements of my "experience" I haven't made clear. Also there are elements of my experience that I feel are misjudged (though I can understand why, even though I do not agree).
Something I haven't made clear, that I would like to here. The underlying primary reason for myself, a non-smoker, to take up vaping is one of a social conscience. I.E. putting myself out there to show to my already smoking friends and their friends and acquaintances this very cool device.
The fact that it looks really cool doing it, is "selling the sizzle". The fact that I "feel" cool doing it adds to the authenticity and credibility. I've seen the posers on the ecig sites and videos...they just look dumb.
I do not have the luxury of explaining my non-smoking backstory to everyone who sees me "vape". And to be honest I don't want to share that with them - that doesn't matter. What matters is communicating with THEM about the device. Whether they smoke themselves, or a friend, or a family member. What matters is they can share their experience of chatting with me or just SEEING me and maybe give one more person a more healthful life by telling about this cool thing that this chick was using.
If I get one smoker, friend, acquaintance, or Joe Blow at the grocery store off tobacco just because I went to Walmart and had a candid chat about this cool thing I'm puffing away at - that is a minute or two of putting this thing in my non-smoking mouth I feel is very well spent.
As for my photo - that's ME and the DEVICE. Not an animal, not a catchphrase, or a random item. Me + Device In. Real. Life. It's not the best photo in the world but the femme fatal aspect is just a small reflection of what I enjoy - looking good. For everyone that calls me on my "cool seeking" vanity I say cast the first stone...
I consciously made the choice to use this thing. I'm not asking for validation, approval, or even advice. What I humbly ask is for others on this forum to share their OWN experiences. That way I can more genuinely empathize and communicate with the "smokers" I meet and create relationships with whenever they ask me "hey, what is that thing?".
Thank you, I hope that explains some things more clearly.
Something I haven't made clear, that I would like to here. The underlying primary reason for myself, a non-smoker, to take up vaping is one of a social conscience. I.E. putting myself out there to show to my already smoking friends and their friends and acquaintances this very cool device.
The fact that it looks really cool doing it, is "selling the sizzle". The fact that I "feel" cool doing it adds to the authenticity and credibility. I've seen the posers on the ecig sites and videos...they just look dumb.
I do not have the luxury of explaining my non-smoking backstory to everyone who sees me "vape". And to be honest I don't want to share that with them - that doesn't matter. What matters is communicating with THEM about the device. Whether they smoke themselves, or a friend, or a family member. What matters is they can share their experience of chatting with me or just SEEING me and maybe give one more person a more healthful life by telling about this cool thing that this chick was using.
If I get one smoker, friend, acquaintance, or Joe Blow at the grocery store off tobacco just because I went to Walmart and had a candid chat about this cool thing I'm puffing away at - that is a minute or two of putting this thing in my non-smoking mouth I feel is very well spent.
As for my photo - that's ME and the DEVICE. Not an animal, not a catchphrase, or a random item. Me + Device In. Real. Life. It's not the best photo in the world but the femme fatal aspect is just a small reflection of what I enjoy - looking good. For everyone that calls me on my "cool seeking" vanity I say cast the first stone...
I consciously made the choice to use this thing. I'm not asking for validation, approval, or even advice. What I humbly ask is for others on this forum to share their OWN experiences. That way I can more genuinely empathize and communicate with the "smokers" I meet and create relationships with whenever they ask me "hey, what is that thing?".
Thank you, I hope that explains some things more clearly.
P.S. If I am only "kinda" or "maybe" adversely affecting my health w/ 0 nic and not inhaling...that's just a bit "whatever" in my mind.
Because I'm sure I'm getting a helluva lot more funk in my body just by eating those last two hotdogs and living every day in my currently inversion polluted city
Because I'm sure I'm getting a helluva lot more funk in my body just by eating those last two hotdogs and living every day in my currently inversion polluted city
I can relate to the idea of making myself an experiment in that great big interactive laboratory called "life", especially when I might show to posterity (or, more likely, my contemporaries) what happens when "x" does "y" under "z" circumstances.
Quite.
OK, you are not asking for "validation, approval, or even advice", but I hope you don't mind perhaps a bit of each of those.
I'm a bit surprised that no one has yet called you a troll or a spy, but it's clear to me (especially now) that you're not. You sound to me like an honest person, iVaporgirl. That means something of value, I'm sure, to more than one here -- certainly to me.I do think maybe some folks are looking at you as if you are a something of a symbol of their own daughter or son (and by extension, their own selves); so just to play along here, if my beloved daughter or son or niece or nephew expressed themselves to me the way you just have, and had the history that you say you have -- I'd say, simply, "Do what you think is right".
The caveat that I would add here is that I trust that you're as intelligent as you sound. If you're not too bright (and by "not too bright", I mean, "easily swayed by popular opinion and cultural mores"), then I rescind the advice of my previous paragraph.
So, in an attempt to be succinct: Please continue to be an individual, and please continue to think for yourself. If that leads you to vaping, then VAPE ON!
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Oh, yeah. I guess I should also add my own experience, since that's what you've specifically asked for.
I've smoked, off and on, for about 40 years (meaning: I've "quit" and restarted several times).
In 2004, after 8 smoke-free years, I consciously decided to begin smoking again because, based on some research I had run across, and some honest self-reflection, I began to admit that nicotine itself had been beneficial to me. So from 2004 to to early 2009, I smoked hand-rolled organic and unadulterated tobacco cigarettes. And yes, I benefited.
When I discovered e-cigs (PVs), I figured it was worth a try, since the only thing I was after (consciously, anyway) was nicotine.
After having read almost every day for almost a full year (mostly on this very forum), I am confident now that nicotine is a good thing -- for some people. I count myself among those people, and am now deeply thankful for the invention of electronic cigarettes.
Hope that helps.
--John
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It will be interesting to see how long before you get tired of explaining it.
lol, touche! I do like to talk about things. genuine communication is one of my missions though, and a strength
if I sound like a windbag that'll just tell I should work on my initial delivery more. and of course to be more concise
iVaporgirl, I think it's very cool that you want to get get smokers off tobacco
Taking up nicotine, however, is something I would recommend against. It's a difficult and unhealthy lifestyle.
But if you want to start vaping on a zero nic, more power to you. It certainly does make you look like a femme fatale!
Taking up nicotine, however, is something I would recommend against. It's a difficult and unhealthy lifestyle.
But if you want to start vaping on a zero nic, more power to you. It certainly does make you look like a femme fatale!
I smoked for 35 years before quitting cold turkey, I had not heard of e-cigs yet then. When I first heard of these devices I got one for my wife and she uses it quite regular, I have also found that for some people that have quit and are struggling the e-cig gives back the sensation of smoking without all the chemicals. I would like to all smokers switch.
All I know after 3 days vaping and not smoking analogs. I have not once coughed when trying to sleep, coughed in morining, etc.
I may have coughed like 2 times after a good vapor hit.
It's like night and day, already feeling much better than when was smoking cigarettes, so I am thnkful for this device.
On the point of not starting vaping, I dunno, but if a person was going to start using nicotene though, I would personally hope they starting with vaping and not smoking cigarettes from what I have seen and felt so far.
I may have coughed like 2 times after a good vapor hit.
It's like night and day, already feeling much better than when was smoking cigarettes, so I am thnkful for this device.
On the point of not starting vaping, I dunno, but if a person was going to start using nicotene though, I would personally hope they starting with vaping and not smoking cigarettes from what I have seen and felt so far.
same for me..... (only I smoked for 27 years)
Welcome!
same for me too...smoked 2 packs a day for 15 years
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