Hello, Im new and really overwhelmed...I NEED HELP! lol

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Hi I'm new! I'm almost 24 and have been smoking since I was 15. I have 2 kids and need to quit so I can be around for them. I have tried the blu e-cigs and failed. Not enough vapor and just wasn't satisfying. I didn't realize what was out there in the world of e-cigs until I went on vacation and stopped at a kiosk in the mall. The women lured me in with the biggest e-cig I had ever seen, pretty too! Anyways, she let me set there and puff on it awhile (I was desperate for a cig at that point) and was amazed at the fact that it actually got rid of my craving and I LOVED IT! Of course I didn't buy it though. I thought, wow if they have this at a crummy kiosk in the mall...my options must be endless. Wow, well I had no idea how endless and how confusing my options would be. Ok, so what I'm looking for is a vaping experience that will blow me away. I need a set up. I'm so ready to quit but need some help with the set up. I want something that will give me huge amounts of vapor and a battery that will last all day. Pls explain in detail cause I'm so confused. I plan on buying a starter kit, either joye ego (any suggestions on which model) or a provari. Which do you prefer? Also, what attachments can I buy for them (which ever u prefer) that will maximize vapor production and battery life. Sorry, I wish I could just figure this out but the more I read the more confused I become. Please help me get a set up that will help me! Oh yeah and I like the look of the see through liquid holder things (sorry lol), can you possibly try to include one of those in the set up maybe. Thanks your help with be greatly appreciated by me and all of my family!

 

[Blinx]

I would suggest something like this. Ego Dual Coil Cartomizer 3.5 mL Tank Kit. It comes with everything you need to get started. A Provari is a very advanced pv and might confuse you further. Maybe start with this and when you get the hang of vaping and know what you like upgrade further.

 

[Flyer]

I suggest you do not start with a Provari. It is costly and may not be what will best match your needs. Down the road you may decide that it does, but there are much less expensive ways to get started in satisfying vaping. I suspect most here would steer you to the Ego/Kgo direction and some easy to fill cartomizers, although there are many other choices as well. I would certainly agree with that approach. I simply purchased an Ego-C kit to get started and that worked very well. The Ego-C bought me the time to better understand how to improve my vaping experience and match my needs. Which ever way you go, I wish you the best. By the way, I did end up with a Provari myself!

 

[Algernon]

I believe madvapes has bolt kits. Pick up one of the kits with the two batteries, some 18mg juice (to start with) and some 1.7ohm Smoktek single-coil cartomizers. It won't disappoint. That will be a good kit to start out on without breaking the bank.

 

[wseyller]

Welcome. Don't worry we will help you out. It can be overwhelming at first.

I suggest a Kgo kit from Darkcityvapor.com

Or if you are interested in a variable volt model that is inexpensive

Ego Twist 1000mah (would be a little longer than a kgo 1100mah)

or if you want all the bells and whistles and higher quality machine

a provari (downside is: large, heavy, expensive)

People that have little to no knowledge is suggest the kgo overall.

 

[Flyer]

See, the did suggest the Ego even before I could finish my reply to you

 

[rookbartley989]

I would suggest something like this. Ego Dual Coil Cartomizer 3.5 mL Tank Kit. It comes with everything you need to get started. A Provari is a very advanced pv and might confuse you further. Maybe start with this and when you get the hang of vaping and know what you like upgrade further.

I second this suggestion whole heartedly!!!

Ron -

 

[Alohaspirit1]

I am in the same boat, Galloway, as I too am new to the e cig world. The more I read the more confusing it gets. I did break down a few weeks ago and bought a disposable SQUARE that I still have. Last weekend we were at a smoke shop and bought a starter kit by Totally Wicked Titane-nic. We have no idea what we are doing. So we thank you for writing here and I'll be following this thread. Thanks to everyone! I live in WA and some shared to look at e-cig express. Any thoughts?

 

[elfstone]

Hey, galloway, and welcome!

There are going to be a lot of opinions on the subject, but let me start by saying you are in the right place. This forum helped me enormously with understanding vaping. I will mostly make a case for ProVari.

Your requirements are interesting, because it looks like you skipped straight to stage 4 Thus, it is probably good to go straight for a stage 4 device! So there is probably no need to go through the eGo-sized devices. You could dip your toes in with a Bolt (inexpensive PV that works like an APV and that will make a good back-up down the road anyway). But I never saw any mention of price being a concern in your posts, and apparently you really decided you like vaping and that it does work for you.

Therefore, I would consider a device that is guaranteed to work well, offer one of the best levels of experience vaping has to offer, will last a long time and will retain re-sale value if, indeed, you don't like it.

The ProVari is definitely such a device. It's a wonderful PV, solid built and reliable. It has variable voltage electronics - which means you can easily vary the heat of the vapor you get; most vapers discover this later in their journey, and it may get a bit confusing right off the bat, but I think it's a manageable learning curve if you really want this.

With an extension cap, the ProVari takes so-called 18650 batteries which for practical purposes will last you a full day of vaping. You should get the AW IMR batteries for ProVari. There is not a lot you can do to extend the battery life on a ProVari, other than avoiding "low resistance" attachments, and sticking to the lowest voltage that hits you right. The lower the resistance and the higher the voltage - the shorter the battery life.

The ProVari is a good choice because it is simple enough to operate and acquire, yet it offers ultimate performance. You can also read my own take on the ProVari here.

There are alternatives, no doubt, but all that I can think of are either a tad more difficult to learn or more difficult to get a hold of. But you can look into and consider other variable voltage (e.g. Buzz / Infinity Pro), solid non-variable voltage PVs (Silver Bullet, Legacy, Precise) or "feeder mods" (Reo, VMod).

In terms of attachments, you can start with plain old cartomizers - I'd recommend Boge 2.0 Ohm cartos - then a large choice of XL sized cartomizers, clearomizers, clearo-tanks. A lot to discover, really. For a longer time of use you should consider a carto-tank. You probably should consider getting some straight atomizers for juice testing by dripping.

 

[sailorman]

I would definitely suggest putting off the Provari for a while.
The kGo is a much better choice and better than the eGo.
The eGo is a low voltage e-cig and usually more expensive as well.

If you like the clearomizers, you can get a kit that includes them.
I'd suggest you also pick up a box of low resistance (LR) cartomizers as well.

This kit, includes 2 batteries, charger, case and the clear cartomizers you like the look of
http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_color_plus.tpl&product_id=1033&category_id=31

You really need cartomizers as well. These are a good choice.
http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_color_plus.tpl&product_id=980&category_id=21

For the cartomizers, you will want a drip tip or two. those are here:
http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page=shop.browse&category_id=35

Then, all you will need is juice. That is better bought elsewhere. The strength and quantity depends on your smoking habits. I suggest you get sample or small sizes from various vendors. Choosing juice is as important as choosing your device. Don't underestimate it.

The items above, plus the juice will be all you need for at least the first couple months while you get your bearings and learn what your options are. You might not upgrade for a long time. The kGo is a good kit for beginners, as you can read by many of the posts on this forum. It's probably the single most successful e-cig for new vapors on this forum and, unlike the eGos, there are very few complaints about it. If you have been vaping a Blu, it will blow you away.

 

[elfstone]

There is no way I would ever knock down the KGO. If you don't go with a "stage 4" PV, then you probably should get a KGO.

I'll give you a couple of videos to watch from one of my favorite reviewers. They are both very positive reviews, as both these devices are arguably among the best in their respective classes...

KGO
A PBusardo Review - KGO Kit - Hoosier E Cig Supply - YouTube

ProVari
A PBusardo Review - The Provari V2 - Provape - YouTube

 

[MariB]

Sailorman gives great advice, and this is no exception. Go with the kit he is suggesting. It's easy to use and good quality. I find the clear cartomizers are much better for a beginner to use. You could order the extra normal cartomizers also as he suggested, but I find them to kind of be a pain the put the liquid into. The Stardusts (Clearomizers) are so easy to fill and use. Good luck!

 

[sailorman]

I have to disagree with those people advocating you get a Provari, for a couple reasons.

Besides being expensive, they are very large. Most Provari owners don't feel too great taking them out just anywhere.
Most of them have other e-cigs for when they're out in public, or when they're at the beach, picnicking, at a bar or whatever. The Provari is just not practical to own as a one-and-only e-cig.

As a new vaper, there are things you should know before you plunge into a $250-300 setup. You need to know what an atomizer is, a cartomizer, a clearomizer (that "see-through liquid holder"). It might even help to know why you want one before you plunk down that kind of money and use it no differently than you would a $50 e-cig.

You need something for a back-up. It's not likely a Provari will just break, but there is always the risk of loss or a failed battery charger, etc.. The cardinal rule of vaping is that you need backups for everything, and backups for your backups.

I would suggest getting an effective, practical e-cig before you jump into a Provari. You're going to need a backup anyway and you won't need the complications of variable voltage before you even understand what role voltage plays and how it interacts with the different attachments and juice delivery systems available. It wouldn't be wise to choose a Ferrari as your first and only car. It's no wiser to choose a Provari as your first and only e-cig.

 

[wseyller]

^ well put

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[Bullette the Cowdog]

I'm nearly 3 months into vaping here. Started with Blu & immediately upgraded to Kgo. Been on that Kgo from Darkcityvapor for 2 1/2 months now. Love it! Battery lasts all day & I can use all kinds of accessories with it if I wish.

 

[nanovapr]

Welcome to ECF, Galloway and Alohaspirit1. Hang in there! I can't add much to the advice you have gotten so far. Find a juice you like, and a device that works for you, those are the most important things. Don't feel guilty if you still smoke while learning the ropes. Smoking is a big bunch of rituals and triggers as well as the physical addiction. Vaping is a whole new bunch of rituals, but once you get it down, it can be quite easy.

I agree with the sentiment that a high-end PV is not a good one to start with, even though it may be an excellent one. There are several different basic shapes and form factors, that work differently for different people. It's best to learn what works for you first.

Dang, Sailorman, I was reading along, and had planned to say exactly the Ferrarri quote that you made!

 

[elfstone]

Noting that I am definitely in the minority, I will just say that there's a lot of reason in the advice from the KGO side. In fact, I think that the KGO would be the default scenario. What I'm saying, is that the OP could very well bypass the default scenario if his wishes are a little different; and that having a ProVari as one's first PV is not disaster, and that if I had been able to afford it, I would have gone for a Ferrari as my first car. We don't all have to follow the most sensible, stepwise approach to everything, especially not to entertainment.

Moreover, the analogy - although seemingly elegant - breaks badly when you consider that the only reason not to get a Ferrari as your first car (especially if you're an American and learned to drive on an automatic) is that you are likely to wreck it and hurt yourself and/or others... No such risk with the ProVari, really - so why not go for a Ferrari that won't kill you and won't blow up no matter how bad a driver you are?

Besides being expensive, they are very large. Most Provari owners don't feel too great taking them out just anywhere.
Most of them have other e-cigs for when they're out in public, or when they're at the beach, picnicking, at a bar or whatever. The Provari is just not practical to own as a one-and-only e-cig.

That is at best a relative / debatable issue. At worst, you're doing the same as you don't like done unto you by the slim battery supporters. Sure, opinions / behaviors vary, but it's not a monster of a pipe bomb that you need to hide or else people will think you're doing something else It isn't larger than a dry erase marker, it's less wide than a quarter and it fits comfortably in the hand. Except for dress pants and skinny jeans, it can be carried in a pocket without mishap or discomfort. It looks so cool, it's hard no to want to be seen with it in public.

You need something for a back-up. It's not likely a Provari will just break, but there is always the risk of loss or a failed battery charger, etc.. The cardinal rule of vaping is that you need backups for everything, and backups for your backups.

THAT is true. Backups are essential, probably more so in the beginning. So I guess they are all right when they say that if you shell out all that money for the ProVari and that means you'll depend on it as your only PV, that's a problem. They're not known to fail, but still - you need at least one backup that works. That need to be taken into account, I'm afraid.

 

[yardbyrd]

I'm still pretty new to vaping too. I started with a Riva 510 SE starter kit. I bought a drip tip and two vials of e-liquid and it cost me about $50. I was recently given an Echo 808 auto and like it more than I tought I would. I think you need to consider if you want an automatic or manual type battery. The autos work as soon as you draw on them. The manuals have a button on them that you push on to control the heat from the atty. All day batteries are every vapers desire. The problem is that depending on how much you vape and the type of battery in your set up the battery life will vary.

All of the reccomendations for a good 510 kit whether E-Go or some other brand I feel are a good advisors. Remember to google or search these forums for coupons or coupon codes and you can save on your first starter kit.

These forums are the best place to get solid, totally subjective, and exellent advice. You'll do great!

 

[elfstone]

These forums are the best place to get solid, totally subjective, and exellent advice. You'll do great!

Intentional or not, amen to that. Bottom line is everyone's advice comes from one's subjective experience and needs to be taken as such...

 

[yiddleboge6]

Well.......................seems like you've already got some good advice here, so just want to say
Hello and welcome to ECF and don't be afraid to keep on asking questions