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Choose batteries by their amp rating according to the wattage setting you use.

WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD
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(Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)

Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
363984-e565e32efab1e4227719866a9a8b957c.jpg

Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
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Up to 60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
346357-b4b716723a22088fab0a5bf10f1b49ad.jpg

LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
373819-b889be4c74fcdafa3f81b77387c1039f.jpg

Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
480893-f9aa259b6278bd14930b251db599258b.jpg

Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
378261-aaf8c523bf96f24707f538807755e5d3.jpg

Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
376248-b8539a19e3674529dd18c0d4a7b45fbd.jpg

Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
375725-e80826e842f37ec825e3c9d326022214.jpg

Up to 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
385835-3a8df09a46862337422b3b76a151fcf0.jpg

LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
376922-73545b66ab0955890ea3cc74c9adb39f.jpg

Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
567779-1876260dcd39b9dcc8127176faccf541.jpg

Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
397493-cc91892a31586c163dc419ce4bd3e8dd.jpg

Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR
629571-13cb99aac009e117529da238509cbf36.jpg

Up to 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
380919-214d0ffa29b60f062ba7640627ad5605.jpg

LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
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LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
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Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
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Vaping between 90 and 120 watts you're going to need a 25 amp battery. If you can find them, Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR. If not, the Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR or Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR.

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Choose batteries by their amp rating according to the wattage setting you use.

WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD
:
(Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)

Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
363984-e565e32efab1e4227719866a9a8b957c.jpg

Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
413691-6d99870bef0f9d8bd4cfb656baac2f7b.jpg

Up to 60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
346357-b4b716723a22088fab0a5bf10f1b49ad.jpg

LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
373819-b889be4c74fcdafa3f81b77387c1039f.jpg

Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
480893-f9aa259b6278bd14930b251db599258b.jpg

Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
378261-aaf8c523bf96f24707f538807755e5d3.jpg

Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
376248-b8539a19e3674529dd18c0d4a7b45fbd.jpg

Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
375725-e80826e842f37ec825e3c9d326022214.jpg

Up to 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
385835-3a8df09a46862337422b3b76a151fcf0.jpg

LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
376922-73545b66ab0955890ea3cc74c9adb39f.jpg

Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
567779-1876260dcd39b9dcc8127176faccf541.jpg

Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
397493-cc91892a31586c163dc419ce4bd3e8dd.jpg

Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR
629571-13cb99aac009e117529da238509cbf36.jpg

Up to 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
380919-214d0ffa29b60f062ba7640627ad5605.jpg

LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
377182-6c570506e6ae8e85f30ce64b386a8f13.jpg

LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
380403-c8fa9e7b310e40c393b6edff15726a5f.jpg

Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
567575-254dcc9f3000323cb489ab10e8b02d13.jpg

Vaping between 90 and 120 watts you're going to need at minimum a 20 amp battery.
I’m actually looking at pairs of Samsung QE kinda hard. I dont generally vape above 30w. Generally lower.
 

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Choose batteries by their amp rating according to the wattage setting you use.

WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD
:
(Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)

Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
363984-e565e32efab1e4227719866a9a8b957c.jpg

Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
413691-6d99870bef0f9d8bd4cfb656baac2f7b.jpg

Up to 60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
346357-b4b716723a22088fab0a5bf10f1b49ad.jpg

LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
373819-b889be4c74fcdafa3f81b77387c1039f.jpg

Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
480893-f9aa259b6278bd14930b251db599258b.jpg

Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
378261-aaf8c523bf96f24707f538807755e5d3.jpg

Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
376248-b8539a19e3674529dd18c0d4a7b45fbd.jpg

Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
375725-e80826e842f37ec825e3c9d326022214.jpg

Up to 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
385835-3a8df09a46862337422b3b76a151fcf0.jpg

LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
376922-73545b66ab0955890ea3cc74c9adb39f.jpg

Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
567779-1876260dcd39b9dcc8127176faccf541.jpg

Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
397493-cc91892a31586c163dc419ce4bd3e8dd.jpg

Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR
629571-13cb99aac009e117529da238509cbf36.jpg

Up to 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
380919-214d0ffa29b60f062ba7640627ad5605.jpg

LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
377182-6c570506e6ae8e85f30ce64b386a8f13.jpg

LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
380403-c8fa9e7b310e40c393b6edff15726a5f.jpg

Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
567575-254dcc9f3000323cb489ab10e8b02d13.jpg

Vaping between 90 and 120 watts you're going to need at minimum a 20 amp battery.
 

Little cat

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May 1, 2019
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Choose batteries by their amp rating according to the wattage setting you use.

WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD
:
(Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)

Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
363984-e565e32efab1e4227719866a9a8b957c.jpg

Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
413691-6d99870bef0f9d8bd4cfb656baac2f7b.jpg

Up to 60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
346357-b4b716723a22088fab0a5bf10f1b49ad.jpg

LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
373819-b889be4c74fcdafa3f81b77387c1039f.jpg

Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
480893-f9aa259b6278bd14930b251db599258b.jpg

Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
378261-aaf8c523bf96f24707f538807755e5d3.jpg

Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
376248-b8539a19e3674529dd18c0d4a7b45fbd.jpg

Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
375725-e80826e842f37ec825e3c9d326022214.jpg

Up to 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
385835-3a8df09a46862337422b3b76a151fcf0.jpg

LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
376922-73545b66ab0955890ea3cc74c9adb39f.jpg

Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
567779-1876260dcd39b9dcc8127176faccf541.jpg

Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
397493-cc91892a31586c163dc419ce4bd3e8dd.jpg

Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR
629571-13cb99aac009e117529da238509cbf36.jpg

Up to 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
380919-214d0ffa29b60f062ba7640627ad5605.jpg

LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
377182-6c570506e6ae8e85f30ce64b386a8f13.jpg

LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
380403-c8fa9e7b310e40c393b6edff15726a5f.jpg

Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
567575-254dcc9f3000323cb489ab10e8b02d13.jpg

Vaping between 90 and 120 watts you're going to need at minimum a 20 amp battery. If you can find them, Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR. If not, the Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR or Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR.

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Have you heard anything about my mod whether it holds together or not?
 

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according to my understanding of @Baditude ’s version of @Mooch ’s chart (making 3 removes of understanding in continuingly reducing levels of expertise) you could just barely get away with 20 amp cells but would do better with 25 amp or perhaps even 30 amp cells for extra slop space.
 
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I’m actually looking at pairs of Samsung QE kinda hard. I dont generally vape above 30w. Generally lower.
o_O Do you mean Samsung 30Q? Those are only 15A batteries good for up to 45 watts each. OP states he vapes between 90 and 120 watts. Those won't cut it for him.
 
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    Hello. I have a smok devilkin 225 w. I use a .15 ohm coil and vape between 90 and 120 watts. could you please tell me what the best 18650 would be for me? thank you

    You’re at up to 60W per battery in that two-battery device. At above about 55W per battery the Sony VTC5A actually starts to run for longer than the 30Q, VTC6, or HG2.

    This is because the VTC5A is more efficient and holds its voltage up better for longer at this high power levels.

    Try the VTC5A, especially if you are chain vaping. You can go up to 150W before hitting their 25A rating in a two-battery device.
     

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    Correct. I was talking about 35QEs. Even lower draw. It seems logical they would be good for 20-30w when used in married pairs. I could be wrong about that though

    I’ve never heard of the Samsung 35QE. Do you have a link? A search came up empty.

    The 35E is an 8A-rated battery though. Definitely useless for anything over 15W each or so due to the huge voltage sag. Definitely worth trying for a 30W two battery setup though.
     

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    Correct. I was talking about 35QEs. Even lower draw. It seems logical they would be good for 20-30w when used in married pairs. I could be wrong about that though

    Actually, NVM....try the Sanyo NCR18650GA. It beat the 35E by a lot in some testing I recently did for my patrons at those “higher” power levels.
     

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    I’ve never heard of the Samsung 35QE. Do you have a link? A search came up empty.

    The 35E is an 8A-rated battery though. Definitely useless for anything over 15W each or so due to the huge voltage sag. Definitely worth trying for a 30W two battery setup though.
    I’ve got 2. They’re quite old. If you’ve never heard of em I’ve likely got it wrong. If not I’ll send em to you.
     

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    If you could, check the wrap? I’m always interested in OEM cells I’ve never heard of before.
    Original wraps are long gone :/. They’re quite old. Last measurement was in the -2800ma range so they’re likely about ready for the bin anyway assuming they were actually 3500ma to begin with. You’re welcome to em though. They’re in one of my vapes atm and it’s better to send em low on power so I’ll vape em down and pull em out, box em up, and mail em to you. Is there a listed address on your blog? Or you could pm me one. Honestly I think it’s just a case of really old out of production batteries. I’ve always bought batteries by following advice on your blog. Possible I bought some bad ones though. They might even be 8 amp. Not sure. I’ve very carefully only used them married for MTL stuff.
     

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    Original wraps are long gone :/. They’re quite old. Last measurement was in the -2800ma range so they’re likely about ready for the bin anyway assuming they were actually 3500ma to begin with. You’re welcome to em though. They’re in one of my vapes atm and it’s better to send em low on power so I’ll vape em down and pull em out, box em up, and mail em to you. Is there a listed address on your blog? Or you could pm me one. Honestly I think it’s just a case of really old out of production batteries. I’ve always bought batteries by following advice on your blog. Possible I bought some bad ones though. They might even be 8 amp. Not sure. I’ve very carefully only used them married for MTL stuff.

    Thank you for the offer but without definitely knowing which cells they are I couldn’t determine much except their present condition. I appreciate your being willing to send them to me though!
     
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