HELP, I tried to upgrade...!!!

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shlacm

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I started out with GreenSmoke and loved it! Then I discovered this forum and realized that I'm a s*cker for paying that much! :glare: I decided a while ago that I needed to "upgrade." Every time I tried to sort it all out by searching this forum I would get incredibly overwhelmed! FINALLY I made a decision and bought an E-Power 14650. And apparently I am "slow" because I have now had it for 2 or 3 weeks and still cannot figure out HOW to use it!!! Why don't they come with directions?!?!?! So now I've resigned myself to my GreenSmoke because I can't even manage to navigate thru the incredible amount of information here and figure out what I'm supposed to do!

HELP!!!

I know the exact thing I need is SOMEWHERE, and if I could just do a "proper" search, I would be set! But alas, I seem inept at navigating the world of e-cigs... or for that matter, even this site! Can someone PLEASE direct me to an illustrated, step-by-set guide to using the E-Power 14650? OR probably just knowing what to do with atomizers, cartridges and manual switches would be enough! At this point, all I know how to do is: charge the battery; refill, empty and clean GreenSmoke cartomizers. I can't even figure out what to do with all the pieces for this thing!
 

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I believe it's as simple as: charge the battery, unscrew the battery compartment, put the battery in, screw the cap back on, screw on your carto/atty of choice, press button as you inhale, inhale, let go of button, exhale, repeat. And if you want the vapor to be a little warmer, start pressing the button a couple of seconds before you inhale and continue pressing it throughout inhaling.
 
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Filling the cartomizer or cartridge (if so equipped) is the first step. Unscrew the cone and remove the cartomizer to do this. I just drip e-liquid from the bottle into the end of the carto to do this. 6-10 drops at a time, then three drops at a time waiting a minute in between to allow liquid to soak into the filling.

If you purchased an E-Power 14650 during the last month it probably came equipped with the new white LED switch module. The previous E-Powers had a blue LED switch.

The white LED switch version has a 5-click switch lock-out feature. 5 fast clicks and the switch is disabled for safe carrying in the pocket. 5 more fast clicks and the E-Power is ready to use.

The white light lights up when the switch button is pressed down and E-Power fires up. The white light stays on steady a few seconds after you press the button when the battery is low and needs recharging. White white light flashes fast for a couple of seconds after pressing the button if something is wrong.

Since the later part of November E-Power 14650 has been equipped with the white LED light switch module. Many of these these units have defective electronics that will not allow the E-Power 14650 to work reliably with LR (low resistance) cartos under 2.0 ohms. Here is the story: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...48025-current-e-power-14650-switch-issue.html
 

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It's all explained in the link I supplied above, but here is the quick version. If you have the new E-Power 14650 with the white LED light switch module it may not work with LR cartos rated below 2.0 ohms. A 2.0 ohm LR carto will work fine with this switch module as will cartos above 2.0 ohms but a 1.7 ohm LR carto and lower may not work.

Both Hoosier and CCV (who sell the E-Power 14650 with the new white LED switch module) have ordered the second version of this white LED switch which should include both the 5-click lock-out feature and reliable LR carto operation well below 2.0 ohms. They expect to have these new switch modules available sometime around first week of the new year.

I've been using my E-Power since mid-November and loving it. No issues at all even with 1.7 ohm LR XL "Resurrector" cartos. I like it so much I built two more E-Power 14650s inexpensively from parts available from Hoosier, but they have the white LED switch. So, I'm waiting for the second generation white LED switches for my E-Powers nos. 2 and 3.
 
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...first off attys/carts are not the best way to enjoy yur vape...the carts just don't hold enough juice and have a bad habit of dumping the juice in your mouth...get some 2ohm cartomizers if you have a white button E-Power or if you are lucky and have the hard plastic, blue button, get some 1.7ohm cartos here Crystal Clear Vaping ...the cartos hold 1ml and 2ml of juice repsectively...juice 'em up, attach to the switch and vape...the button is just a button...just push it and hold while vaping...you have bought a great unit that should give ya LOTSSA of vaping enjoyment..............
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Thank you! I'll go watch it now! I'm fine w/the cartos (I think), it's the atomizers and cartridges, and switch that have me at a loss, lol.

if you can't find a video that helps you about the atomizer and carts just let me know and i can make you a video about how to use them really quickly and send it to you. I don't have an epower but using the atomizer and carts is the same for all 510 units :)
 

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I also use an Epower and absolutely love it. Its actually very easy to use once you understand how an ecig works and what all the parts do. Where did you get your EPower from? If you didn't be an instruction manual, don't worry bc your not missing anything. The instruction manual that came with mine was absolutely useless.

Yzer explained the switch issue very well. If you do have the switch with the white LED then for now you won't be able to use anything lower than 2.0ohms. By once the newer white LED switch is available you will be able to use basically any LR atty or carto you want. Also if youve got he white LED, dont forget that 5 rapid clicks turns the switch on and off. If you push the button and it doesnt light up, then its off and you need to do 5 rapid clicks to turn it back on.
If its got a blue LED then you don't have to worry bc that switch can handle SRs and LR attys/cartos with no problems.

I would def recommend you get some cartomizers to use on your EPower. Attys and cartridges can be inconsistant and most people prefer cartos. Cartos will work a LOT better on our EPower. The only thing I use the attys that came with my EPower for is to test new juices by dripping to see if I like the juice. If I do, then I fill a carto.
I use the "Ressurector" cartos on my EPower and they work awesome. They are 1.7ohm LR and hold alittle over 2ml of juice so they last a long time before they need a refill. I fill 2 or 3 in the morning and I'm pretty much good all day.
The Ressurectors give an awesome vape on the Epower, but if you have the white LED switch I wouldn't get them since they are 1.7ohm. I would get the Boge 2.0ohm cartos then bc they will work with no problems with the white LED switch. The Boge 2.0ohm cartos work great and are popular. I also think they will be easier for you to learn on bc they are regular size and hold about 1ml. The Ressurectors are XL and can be Alittle tougher to fill correctly since they hold alot more juice.
If you have the blue LED switch than you could get cartos that are below 2.0ohms if you'd like.

Don't get frustrated bc the Epower really is easy to use and your prob just over thinking it some. The cone is basically just for looks and you don't necessarily have to use it. I never use the switch on mine.
Besides that then all you really have to worry about is putting a fresh battery in, screwing the switch on, then screwing something to the battery and vaping away. It really is that easy. Using cartomizers will def make it easier too bc then all you have to do is fill a carto and screw it onto the battery and vape away. An atty and a cartridge really isn't that hard either, but they are just more of a hassle and alot less consistant.

I get all my cartos from Crystal Clear Vaping(CCV). They has good prices and free shipping which is nice when you just want to order some cartos. CCV is the vendor that sells the Ressurectors but they also sell the Boge 2.0ohm and 3.0ohm cartos. CCV also gives a free syringe with all carto purchases and if you get a 15-pack yu get a syringe and a free drip tip.
Def buy some cartos and I think you'll enjoy your EPower alot more

If you have any questions, dont hesitate to ask
 

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I got the kit from CCV. ((per your advice to someone else in another thread, madjack))

Kit Includes:
2 ICR 14650 1050 mah 3.7 V rechargeable batteries
1 Battery Charger
2 Atomizers
1 Battery Tube
1 Switch (plastic button w/white LED)
1 Cone
1 Button Protector
5 Pre-filled Cartridges
5 Resurrectors (clear)

It appears I also received a "drip tip." What exactly do I do with that?!?!?

So, I THINK I have everything put together correctly - battery charged, carto filled with the yummiest "juice" in existence - and NOW I notice that the led blinks rapidly when I try to use it! URGH!!!

I read the thread about the switch problem: yzer's link. It looks like I need a need one, eh? For the next couple weeks I guess it's GreenSmoke... will the cartridges that came in the kit work? If so, can they be emptied the same way that cartos can? OR should I order some 2.0 cartos?

Thank you all so much for the help! I love that after all that research I managed to choose the one with a bizarro electrical quirk!!! *rolls eyes*
 
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I think you have done a good job shlam. We all bought the small stick things first and have a closet full to send to someone in PIF, if there is a director and they can dole them out, as some of us cannot mail out until weekends.

Madjack directed you well, you will not be disappointed.

I think Madjack needs a cam so he can do reviews. His oneliners and quick stories are straight to the point. I like that. No hemming an hawing. He can be thumbs up, thumbs down guy. Wait, wait, Hairball can be the counterpart! Yeah, ECF thumbs up, thumbs down...(Bet they are not loving me for suggesting something without asking. :oops:)

Enjoy the new equipment when you get it. Merry Christmas to a quicker decision than most of us made!;)
 
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Read what I wrote above about the switch and also read what I wrote in yzers thread about it.
You do not have a bad switch. Smoktech just did a dumb thing and made the new white LED switches rated at 2.0ohms. The Reasurectors arnt working bc they are 1.7ohm, which is below the 2.0ohm rating. Some peoples have managed to work but most will blink if you use something below 2.0ohm. They already fixed it though and Andrew will have them in about a week. I have one of the white LED switches too, and as of now it surprisingly is working with the Ressurectors. I'm not really sure why, but I figure it's gona prob stop working sooner than later bc it shouldn't work with anything lower tha. 2.0ohms. I have the gold-plated spring in and I stretched it some so I know it's making a good connection. I've also been using a 14650 IMR hi-drain battery in it. I dont know if any of that is helping, but it is working right now. I'm def going to still send it back as soon as the LR switch is available though.
So I wouldnt send it back right now bc a new switch won't solve the problem. It will do the exact same thing. What I would do is get some 2.0ohm cartos like the Boges so at least you can use it for now until the LR switch is available. Andrew is going to let me know when he gets them in. I'll give you a heads up. I would then call him and send the one you have back so he can send you the LR white LED switch. The fixed one is rated to use up to 1.25ohm cartos or 1.5ohm DCs. I've heard different answers from different vendors, but regardless and whatever it is rated to, your going to be able to use all LR cartos. I do t recommend using 1.25ohm cartos anyway so even if it's 1.5ohm youll basically be able to use any ohm you want. The Ressurectors will work with no problems since they are 1.7ohm.
Don't worry you def made a good choice going with the EPower. Smoktech just made a boneheaded decision since the old switch could handle below 2.0ohms with no problems. They have fixed it though and Andrew said he expects to get them next Monday. (jan 2nd). So until then you could use some 2.0ohm cartos bc they will work great and then when Andrew gets them in you can send them back and get the fixed LR switch.
If you lived near Philly I'd be glad to give you one of my spare blue LED switches bc that runs below 2.0ohm cartos with no problems. It doesn't have the 5-click on/off but at least it runs the Ressurectors great. In a week though you can get the LR switch and will have no prOblems running the awesome ressurectors.

Your question about the drip tip, you can either use that to direct drip, drip a few drops directly onto the atomizer, then put the drip tip onto the atty and vape. Or you can put the drip tip onto a cartomizer and use it as a mouth piece. I use drip tips on my Ressurectors bc its more comfortable on your lips and also makes it easy to tell what juice is in a carto if you use different color drip tips and vape more than one juice. Just take the white rubber cap off and put the drip tip on.

Referring to what CCC said about those cartos, they are the dual coil carto that is designed specifically for the EPower. They do work well and hold about 5ml of juice which is pretty ridiculous, but they are 1.5ohm so until you get the LR switch, they will not work. So I wouldn't get them until you have the LR switch. Once you get the LR switch though you can use them if you choose to. They are the same diameter as the battery tube and look nice on the Epower and they last a longggg time since they hold 5ml. Personally I like the Ressurectors better though and would rather use them. If you do want to try them though once you get the LR switch, go for it. You might find that you really like them. I wouldnt get them from the vendor that CCC posted though bc You can get them cheaper at madvapes.

Hope this helped some and sorry Smoktech f'd up and you can't use the Ressurectors right now. I don't blame you, I'd def be bummed too, especially bc you just got it, but don't worry in about a week or so your Epower will be runnin the Ressurectors like a champ. So I'd get some Boge 2.0ohms for now so you can at least use it, or come up to Philly and ill give you the blue LED switch so you can use the Ressurectors until you can get the fixed one.
 

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Thanks again for all the help... AND the reassurance, lol!

I will plan to order the new switch after the first of the year. From what I have read, the cartridges and atomizers that came with the kit should work until then, so I'll probably give them a try. Can I do the spin thing to empty them the same as with the cartos? I guess it won't hurt to try, lol.
 

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I also have E-Powers that I'm very happy with. Yzer and Rob are giving you good direction. Once you get the hang of it, I think you'll be pleased with your choice.

CCC, it looks like those cartos are rated at 1.6 ohms. If I understand correctly, the new white LED switch will only work consistently with cartos at 2.0 ohms or above. Can someone confirm?

Drip tips will fit on the open end of the carto. I use them mostly for comfort (so I'm not "tailpiping" as I think someone here termed it), and for color-coding which flavor is in the carto.
 

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A drip tip is just a better way of vaping than using the flat round end of an atty or cartomizer. The drip tip gets you another half inch away from the coil, so you have less chance of getting "juice in the mouth" and allows you to drip though the tip to add juice instead of popping off the cap to add a few drops.

Boge cartos are a good vape. They are easy to fill, hold more juice, and provide top level taste and vapor compared to standard cartridges that come with most ecigs. Cartos are right up there with dripping atomizers and don't require you to refill every few minutes.
 

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I also have E-Powers that I'm very happy with. Yzer and Rob are giving you good direction. Once you get the hang of it, I think you'll be pleased with your choice.

CCC, it looks like those cartos are rated at 1.6 ohms. If I understand correctly, the new white LED switch will only work consistently with cartos at 2.0 ohms or above. Can someone confirm?

Drip tips will fit on the open end of the carto. I use them mostly for comfort (so I'm not "tailpiping" as I think someone here termed it), and for color-coding which flavor is in the carto.

Yes you are correct that the current white LED switch is only rated to use 2.0ohm cartos or above, so thats why I said there's no reason to get the Epower dual coil for now bc they won't work either.
CCV and Hoosier are both waiting for their shipments of the newer LR rated switches. Like I said in the previous post, I've heard different answers as to what the LR switch will be rated too. One vendor told me they will be able to use up to 1.25ohm cartos and another vendor said up to 1.5ohm dual coils. I don't recommend using the 1.25ohm cartos anyway so even if it's rated to use 1.5ohm cartos, you should be able to use basically all LRs. It will def be able to handle the Ressurectors with no problems and should run the 1.5ohm Epower dual coil too. If it is rated to 1.5ohm the only thing it might not work with is the 1.25ohm cartos, but using them voids your warranty anyway so even if it would work with them, I wouldn't do it. You risk damaging the Epower, kGo, riva, etc when you use the 1.25ohm cartos.

Shlacm, the attys and cartridges will work with no problems bc I'm pretty sure the attys that come with it are 2.5ohms, but frankly they do kind of suck. I only use those attys to test new juices by dripping.
That's why I recommended to maybe get some 2.0ohm cartos to use bc they will be alot better than the attys/cartridges that came with the kit. The Boge 2.0ohm cartos work great and will work on the current switch with no problems.
 

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Referring to what CCC said about those cartos, they are the dual coil carto that is designed specifically for the EPower. They do work well and hold about 5ml of juice which is pretty ridiculous, but they are 1.5ohm so until you get the LR switch, they will not work. So I wouldn't get them until you have the LR switch. Once you get the LR switch though you can use them if you choose to. They are the same diameter as the battery tube and look nice on the Epower and they last a longggg time since they hold 5ml. Personally I like the Ressurectors better though and would rather use them. If you do want to try them though once you get the LR switch, go for it. You might find that you really like them. I wouldnt get them from the vendor that CCC posted though bc You can get them cheaper at madvapes.

The ones at madvapes say they do NOT work with the E-Power...??? Perhaps I'm looking at the wrong ones?
 

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If you were looking at the ones for the eGo at madvapes, those aren't the right ones. I believe these are.

However, not until you get a next generation switch -- these will not work with the current white LED switch. Until then, your best bet is likely the 2.0 Boge cartos at CCV. With the switch you have now, you need to use cartos that are rated 2.0 ohms or above.
 
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